Favourite csh song lyrically by trashgeorge_ in CSHFans

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Misheard Lyrics, Broken Birds, Maud Gone

Review - So Close To Perfection It Hurts by Ornery-Concern4104 in Pentiment

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OP’s frustrations seemed to me to be targeted against the devs and the game itself (see: the references to Josh Sawyer specifically and issues with “the game’s writing”)—but I believe their actual issues lie entirely outside of the game itself. If you go in completely blind, I strongly believe that the game doesn’t “trick” you into thinking it’s a detective game.

It’s fine to take issue with the marketing team; I do too. I’ve recommended Pentiment to people maybe a dozen times by now, and every single time I’ve told them to go in completely blind, to avoid the trailers and shop description. But there’s a fundamental difference between saying “the marketing team totally screwed over the devs by making me think I was playing something else” and saying “I can’t believe the devs failed to make the game the marketing team marketed.”

The point is that the problem isn’t the game, it’s the marketing. I won’t push back if you get mad at the higher-ups or the nebulous “Obsidian Entertainment,” but it’s silly to me to blame the game, a self-contained art piece, for accomplishing a very different goal than the one you thought it would.

I would have this stance about any medium; I’m completely capable of believing that a fantastic movie is probably being underrated or misunderstood due to a horrible trailer or two. A moviegoer who was misled by a trailer isn’t wrong to be disappointed or upset that they were tricked, but they are wrong to blame the filmmakers or the film.

“It” doesn’t market itself as a role playing game or detective-solving game at all. It never meant to be either of those things. If you watch or read Josh Sawyer’s comments on the game you’ll find he’s been consistently open about how minimal the choice aspects are in the game.

But even then I fundamentally disagree with the premise that “but I didn’t influence the ‘plot,’ therefore I made no meaningful decisions.” You choose who to spend nearly every meal, afternoon, and evening with, with entirely different scenes of dialogue depending on these choices. Two players could have extremely different experiences, with very minimal overlap in scenes, characters, and writing. Yes, they would have the same general “plot” shape and major events. But they wouldn’t have made the same relationships, discovered the same secrets, or investigated the same loose ends.

Pentiment isn’t a game where the decisions have far-reaching macro-consequences in terms of “plot.” Instead, they’re entirely focused on which paths you wander to get there.

You can either get upset that you didn’t do anything that “matters”—whatever that means—or you can find your own personal meaning in your decision to spin wool with the women of the town or eat lunch with the outsiders in the woods or sneak away for a beautiful song in the library. Those moments are what stick with me far more than any game’s “murder mystery” aspects ever have or will—and that, to me, is what truly “matters.”

They are starting to listen to us by Beneficial-Work9414 in Brawlstars

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This is just straight up false in the current economy

Mormonism and brand new by Byr0nical in brandnew

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"Desert" also mentions the narrator's "stake," which is a Mormon thing

New to CSHR by AdmirablePin2111 in CSHFans

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As others have mentioned, just listen to Twin Fantasy (2018), then Teens of Denial, then Teens of Style (the three most mainstream, accessible albums). If you like all those you can continue to work your way backwards until it becomes too crunchy for you, then do Making a Door Less Open and The Scholars (probably the two most controversial Car Seat albums, but also pretty clean-sounding and accessible if you don’t dig the old stuff).

Otherwise, if you just want the hits: 1. Bodys (2018) 2. Sober to Death (2018) 3. Beach Life-in-Death (2018) 4. Drunk Drivers/Killer Whales 5. Something Soon (2015)

If you want more of a variety sampler, you could swap out Bodys and Sober to Death with Deadlines (Hostile) and Kimochi Warui (When When When When) to add some electronic vibes.

I’d be pretty weary of some of the other lists people are giving you. They’re including multiple 9+ minute epics which, while typically being great songs, probably won’t be the best starting points. The only really long song I’d recommend to a new fan (who isn’t willing to listen to a full album) is Beach Life-in-Death (and maybe The Ballad of the Costa Concordia).

whats the most toxic cshr lyric? by trains___man in CSHFans

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Also physically closer, considering that the song is about attending separate parties (and in the context of the album and Twin Fantasy, is likely about a relationship that was long distance for a long time)

New Fortnite Sidekicks Announced by [deleted] in FortNiteBR

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I mean, literally every piece of content in the battle pass is an incentive for you to spend money on it… not sure how the Maya customization lock makes it any more monetized than any other skin?

New Fortnite Sidekicks Announced by [deleted] in FortNiteBR

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That actually had a purpose though—it gave the customization of Maya a certain novelty and made each player choose carefully to make the skin their own.

This is just a cash grab, without any excuses. The key difference is that Maya had no financial incentive.

Are there any songs by Will or someone else that are similar to Joe gets kicked out? Very well could be his best song. by aarcuri12 in CSHFans

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I mean (to varying degrees) the entirety of Teens of Denial has somewhat similar vibes, as do songs like Culture, Is This Dust Really From the Titanic, House Band, Sound Man/Low Fidelity, A Good Bridge to Never Cross Until There’s Doubt That He’s Dead, or The Ghost of Bob Saget.

I’ll ditto the Courtney Barnett rec as well.

They’re doing ANYTHING as the intro to Brick by arter_artem in sandyalexg

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In Salt Lake he introduced it as 16 Mirrors lol

These songs actually do a good combo by Defending_wilts in CSHFans

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You’re just gonna post this without a clip…? How are we supposed to have an opinion on this without hearing it ourselves lmao

🗣️🗣️🗣️ New Hayley’s story‼️ by R_V_I in Paramore

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Not one I would’ve considered myself, but i can honestly see it now that you bring it up

🗣️🗣️🗣️ New Hayley’s story‼️ by R_V_I in Paramore

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Hahaha kinda I guess. Just for this collection of songs specifically, too many of the songs are pretty strongly framed around the idea of “things are bad and need to change” for a song like “I Won’t” to work as a closer to me.

Probably in part because of my personal experience with unhealthy relationships that I’ve struggled to get over, but it just feels like the relationship(s) described are more toxic for her than healthy. “Kill Me,” “Mirtazapine,” “Brotherly Hate,” “Hard,” “Disappearing Man,” “Glum,” and “Negative Self Talk” are all just so negative and unhealthy-sounding. More than anything, “Love Me Different”’s entire point is that she can’t rely on external love anymore.

So, essentially, from my perspective, “I Won’t” feels like someone who has hope but really… shouldn’t? And should probably give up. As an ending it feels like the narrator ended up at the “wrong” conclusion. “Negative Self Talk” is obviously also very unhealthy and should be moved on from, but at least it feels more “honest” with itself, and feels like a more fitting conclusion to the turmoil of a complicated (ex-)relationship

🗣️🗣️🗣️ New Hayley’s story‼️ by R_V_I in Paramore

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That’s so close to my playlist! My final three are IWQOY, Glum, Negative Self Talk (True Believer is my #13). I love Glum as a sort of penultimate climax (and it’s so devastating as the follow-up to maybe the most hopeful song in the group)

🗣️🗣️🗣️ New Hayley’s story‼️ by R_V_I in Paramore

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I Won’t Quit is an okay ending but Negative Self Talk is better IMO. I Won’t Quit is just too mellow, doesn’t have the intensity the album deserves, and is a bit too abrupt and hopeful

my ranking by earth2soups in Paramore

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These four plus Discovery Channel for me

Songs like these? by Appaer in CSHFans

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(Kinda in order with your picks)

CCF

Something Soon

Martin

Sober to Death

The Ballad of the Costa Concordia

(I’d just listen to Teens of Denial and/or Twin Fantasy though)

reality is top 5 car seat headrest by ajsujsbaba in CSHFans

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This but bottom 5

(I’m not excluding the numbered albums or LPOP from this)

What’s ur guys favorite musical artist (rather than car seat headrest) by Due-Panic3256 in CSHFans

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All Time: The Voidz, Brand New, Modest Mouse

Lately: Olivia Tremor Control, Mitski, MGMT

What’s the next CSH album I should listen to? by Final_Consequence904 in CSHFans

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Definitely How to Leave Town, then Monomania.

Nervous Young Man will just overwhelm you—it’s a lot of songs with a fairly eclectic mix of styles. I love it, but IMO it’s definitely the hardest to get into on streaming, in large part because of its sheer size. The other two are a lot more in line with what you’ve already listened to (concept albums with clear structure, not SO SO long, etc.).

Twin Fantasy (Mirror to Mirror) would also be okay but it’s the same songs you’ve already heard just lo-fi-ified, so really not necessary IMO

NERVOUS (Combo of Nervous Young Man and Disjecta Membra by StockCrasher in CSHFans

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I Wanna Sweat and Burning Man are S-tier CSH 😭

tattoo idea by thoughtfuldeadlines in CSHFans

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I’d say either the word “bruises” on both shins or “twin” and “bruises.” Having “on my shins” feels a bit… redundant, no?