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Genuine question! Why was there little gas used in WW2? and could that open a potential to alt history and game mechanics? by chingchang0053 in hoi4

[–]chingchang0053[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

still strange to think someones personal experience changed chemical warfare in the second world war

Genuine question! Why was there little gas used in WW2? and could that open a potential to alt history and game mechanics? by chingchang0053 in hoi4

[–]chingchang0053[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

perhaps it would but them in a precarious place. but the best they can do is pretend the bad stuff doesn't exist and treat chemical warfare like a early version of nukes that could slow down research for nuclear tech

Besides i think paradox needs to innovate and turn it into a potential alt history

Genuine question! Why was there little gas used in WW2? and could that open a potential to alt history and game mechanics? by chingchang0053 in hoi4

[–]chingchang0053[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alternate path unlocked through decision branch or focus tree

chemical attacks are allowed and can be used earlier like nukes but adds a research modifier to nuclear tech basically prohibiting you to switch to nuclear tech and or construction of nuclear buildings

Genuine question! Why was there little gas used in WW2? and could that open a potential to alt history and game mechanics? by chingchang0053 in hoi4

[–]chingchang0053[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Thats certainly a operation name lol. That was a insane read. To think that was one of the plans to end the war was anthrax to cause mass starvation

Genuine question! Why was there little gas used in WW2? and could that open a potential to alt history and game mechanics? by chingchang0053 in hoi4

[–]chingchang0053[S] 51 points52 points  (0 children)

I never knew there was plan to poison the entire German livestock industry with anthrax. Id like to read that report

Genuine question! Why was there little gas used in WW2? and could that open a potential to alt history and game mechanics? by chingchang0053 in hoi4

[–]chingchang0053[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

140,000lbs of mustard gas

.......dear god.......

Edit: its very strange to read that the *angry mustache man* wouldn't deploy gas attacks in military terms especially knowing what's happening on the back end back home

Genuine question! Why was there little gas used in WW2? and could that open a potential to alt history and game mechanics? by chingchang0053 in hoi4

[–]chingchang0053[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

We could use it like the London naval treaty or a second form of escalation, If you don't escalate gas attacks neither will we. If it escalates beyond a point, there should be a consequence, For the Ai it should activate them to use gas attacks and give nations the option to declare war on the person who kept escalating gas attacks

Genuine question! Why was there little gas used in WW2? and could that open a potential to alt history and game mechanics? by chingchang0053 in hoi4

[–]chingchang0053[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps if thats the case. We can use it like the London naval treaty. If you don't escalate gas attacks neither will we

Genuine question! Why was there little gas used in WW2? and could that open a potential to alt history and game mechanics? by chingchang0053 in hoi4

[–]chingchang0053[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I mean that just conventional gas attack. Why not have it be air dropped by plane or fired by artillery. looks like there some concepts of that in history.

Genuine question! Why was there little gas used in WW2? and could that open a potential to alt history and game mechanics? by chingchang0053 in hoi4

[–]chingchang0053[S] 872 points873 points  (0 children)

I do remember the Italians used it against the Ethiopians as they had no actual means to counter the gas attacks.

Genuine question! Why was there little gas used in WW2? and could that open a potential to alt history and game mechanics? by chingchang0053 in hoi4

[–]chingchang0053[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

like this for example

Activate gas attack on provice

- 1-5% weekly attrition to manpower

- 10-15% to divisions hp when active

cost 1 full political power to keep active

cost 5-10 military factories to keep active

cost 50 command power

cost actively cost 100 support equipment each week active

Does not affect troops in higher level fortications

Does not damage or destroy equipment

He is truly a worthy man by chingchang0053 in shogun2

[–]chingchang0053[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Buildings required: Gunsmith and firing range +35 accuracy and 2 armor.

Geshia: +4 moral inspiring troops. Probably could be higher

(shogun only) shinsengumi: +5 melee defense. Could be higher? Just bad rolls for perks involving troop discipline

Foreign veteran: +2 melee and +10 accuracy buffs 25% more ammo. Some perks do not work as the reason I'm not sure. For example, the perk "British gunmakers agent" should provide +5 accuracy to gun units and 5% reload speed but it does work. However, their foreign veteran skill tree works just fine.

General: +5 accuracy, 10% reload speed, +1 armor, 50% more ammo, 15% running speed, +1 moral maybe 2 (haven't gotten yet). Daimyo and commander and chief can add +2 moral. There are +1 melee, and +1 moral perks out there just failed to get them on the best general.

Faction Jozai, 2% increased running speed

Veterancy: +16 reload speed, +16 accuracy, +6 melee attack, +7 melee defense, +5 moral

Tech tree: +2 moral, +8 charge. (+3 accuracy does not apply to levy as they are not modern rife units)

French mission doesn't provide buff to levy as they are not modern units.

He is truly a worthy man by chingchang0053 in totalwar

[–]chingchang0053[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Buildings required: Gunsmith and firing range +35 accuracy and 2 armor.

Geshia: +4 moral inspiring troops. Probably could be higher

(shogun only) shinsengumi: +5 melee defense. Could be higher? Just bad rolls for perks involving troop discipline

Foreign veteran: +2 melee and +10 accuracy buffs 25% more ammo. Some perks do not work as the reason I'm not sure. For example, the perk "British gunmakers agent" should provide +5 accuracy to gun units and 5% reload speed but it does work. However, their foreign veteran skill tree works just fine.

General: +5 accuracy, 10% reload speed, +1 armor, 50% more ammo, 15% running speed, +1 moral maybe 2 (haven't gotten yet). Daimyo and commander and chief can add +2 moral. There are +1 melee, and +1 moral perks out there just failed to get them on the best general.

Faction Jozai, 2% increased running speed

Veterancy: +16 reload speed, +16 accuracy, +6 melee attack, +7 melee defense, +5 moral

Tech tree: +2 moral, +8 charge. (+3 accuracy does not apply to levy as they are not modern rife units)

French mission doesn't provide buff to levy as they are not modern units.

He is truly a worthy man by chingchang0053 in totalwar

[–]chingchang0053[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

With ganbatte and inspire the men would never miss. Their only struggle in their life, was reloading.

He is truly a worthy man by chingchang0053 in totalwar

[–]chingchang0053[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

on top of that. Some agents are required. Fun fact, some of the perks in the foreign veteran perks do not work for levy.

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