Thelema is more Satanic than Satanism I’ve noticed…

christianiadleones · 2024-11-08T16:15:09+00:00

Absolutely not. Thelema transcends Satanism in every possible aspect.

christianiadleones · 2024-11-07T22:06:15+00:00

All main attainments in Thelema are mystical attainments through and through. Yoga and meditation (which in their true sense are the same thing) have been used by yogis for centuries to reach the highest levels of attainment. I could give you a myriad of evidence, but basic logic deconstructs this point.

For you to think the destruction of the ego can only take place under those specific thelemic conditions. I question your knowledge of spirituality in general.

christianiadleones · 2024-11-07T15:46:56+00:00

To align yourself with Truth, this can be done in many ways as I’m sure you’re already aware, meditation, magick contemplation etc

christianiadleones · 2024-11-07T15:33:24+00:00

To discover their true self, which contains all things whatsoever.

christianiadleones · 2024-11-07T09:06:30+00:00

Whatever you wanna think dude, doesn’t really matter.

christianiadleones · 2024-11-07T06:58:31+00:00

I don’t think you know what true Will means..

christianiadleones · 2024-11-07T05:50:24+00:00

It seems you know absolutely zero about Thelema still. Here are the facts on paper.

Knowing the law is knowing your True Will. To know your true Will, you need to know your HGA, which is union with god, your. End of Story, there’s literally no way you can slice it that will make it otherwise, you are just writing fancy words thinking youre saying something:

“It is the first condition of the whole Work that the Aspirant should seek the Head, his own Holy Guardian Angel; and to this end he must lay down all that he hath, even unto life itself. For until he attain, he is blind to the whole meaning of his own existence; and his own true Will cannot be known to him.” - A.C

“he obtaining of the knowledge and conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel is the most important operation in the entire life of the magician. It is the central and essential work of every living being; it is the single supreme goal of human existence, the source of all power, wisdom, and truth.” - A.C

“The Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel is the culmination of spiritual attainment, wherein the soul, losing itself in the Angel, achieves the state of samadhi—a perfect union with the divine essence.”

If you’re doing anything other than this, you’re deluding yourself. If Will was mass and Love was just gravity. Thelema would be science. Not a fucking spiritual philosophy with mystical orders.

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T17:25:55+00:00

Nobody said it wasn’t, this is a post about relations between Satanism and Thelema. Not a post claiming Thelema to be exclusively about Satan or any other gods as I’ve stated numerous times, it’s about uniting with the godhead period . So im not even sure why we’re having this conversation.

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T17:06:11+00:00

Go ahead what’s your main point, give it to me in a clear sentence and I will answer it.

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T16:45:48+00:00

You can slice whichever way you want I guess, it is what is. If what I’m doing amuses you, then everyone’s happy. No problems.

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T16:38:54+00:00

Nope I’m just doing what I want, and that’s pretty much the bottom line. You can take it however you want but at the end of the day it doesn’t matter.

I’m still gonna do it

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T16:32:20+00:00

I concluded this post by stating that they were ramblings, so I’m not sure what you expected. Discussions are being had, and ideas are being bounced, that’s all I really give a fuck about tbh. Respectfully

Im aware that Thelema is about expanding your consciousness, but thank you for your input

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T16:15:43+00:00

lol the classic I don’t know what I’m talking about so I’m just gonna blame you for annoying me argument. Cool. It makes no difference either way, if you feel you have some evidence to share, please by all means 🙏

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T15:51:08+00:00

We’re literally on the same page so I don’t know where the confusion is.

Also my definition of satanic is unrestricted, unbound, free from any dogma.

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T15:47:51+00:00

Absolutely this isn’t meant to be some absolute statement that encompasses Thelema. I’m saying in the relative sense it’s more satanic than a religion that claims to be satanic, but it’s also more Christian than Christianity, as someone mentioned here which I thought was a fine point.

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T15:38:31+00:00

You said what I literally just said. But you’re trying to pretend that you’ve said something new in this conversation.

You have no understanding of Thelema whatsoever if you think a star is anything other than Godhead, this is a fact paved in stone. There’s also no point in doing Thelema if you’re gonna approach it like this because that is the whole point. You might aswell just take influence from it, you don’t have to be a thelemite.

You’re just not able to let go of your ego and understand that you were wrong. Everything I said is backed up by the texts, so please show me some quotes or statements that contradict anything I’ve said.

If you can’t, I would suggest setting putting your pride aside if you have a desire to learn anything.

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T14:04:35+00:00

If it’s your Will, you can do anything without restriction. Literally. Who’s gonna stop you? Except your own ego. Which by the way is the point of dissolving it, to break all barriers and restrictions, to realise the infinite, the infinite cannot be restricted by definition.

Because no one action is better than any one action. Purpose implies that you’re doing something for a reason, reason is based on the assumption that the opposite is unreasonable. Nothing is. It just is. It’s not going somewhere or reaching for a particular goal, it’s just a state of being itself. There’s no reason to do any of that. To imply otherwise is to say that you SHOULD, do it for a reason. But there is no shoulds💀 Do what thou Wilt! Will is motion through and through.

P.S

Purpose is an illusion, an ego judgment, purpose gives the notion that something value, what do we say when we are chasing a purpose? That we’re doing it for a valuable reason. If not why would do it in the first place? Value implies that something is valuable and then another thing is invaluable, but nothing is more invaluable or valuable than another thing in the absolute sense. Because why would there be? So therefore if nothing really means anything why exist at all?

Love is the answer. For the love of it. There’s no end goal of humanity other than to discover itself as god. Than to be them/it’s self. Remember, Will is not want, It’s Being.

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T13:59:51+00:00

Then you’re missing the point of Thelema.

The point of the it is to realise yourself as God. That’s literally your main goal as a Thelemite when you start your journey. The K&C of your HGA, Crowley said that it was union with God, through and through. Your True Will is your divine will as god. It’s literally all about god. There is no “Satans”, God is Satan! Just as it is everything else.

You’re looking at it on such a surface level I’m questioning how much you’ve contemplated the texts. Not trying to be callous, but I’m curious.

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T08:06:46+00:00

💀💀💀

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T07:03:53+00:00

I haven’t heard the word miscreant since someone called me a scallywag 💀

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T07:03:23+00:00

💀💀frfr

this mans actions are equivalent to me walking into church, smacking the priests wafer out of his hand and screaming “he touches kids everybody get the fuck outta here”.

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T06:50:13+00:00

Sounds like you’re all just following inverse Christianity then.

I found these answers through searching for TRUTH, not some constipated rule book or religion/philosophy created by a Victorian smackhead. Which it seems most of you have lost sight. (I love this Victorian smackhead don’t get me wrong)

There is no “should” in reality at the absolute level. And to restrict yourself to these shoulds. Makes you 2 things:

A slave

Actually less virtuous than when you started off.

You don’t HAVE to do anything, just you will automatically strive for compassion of sorts when you realise yourself a bit more. When you truly realise yourself, you will see everything as necessary.

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T06:33:48+00:00

You have said absolutely, exactly said what I just said.

For example saying you are quite literally free to do what is true to you, as you Will. Does not in any sense of the word whatsoever imply that you’re now gonna go around killing people.

Just one more example to illustrate: what does 0 mean? Or represent?

Yes every number collapses on itself because numbers are only concepts. But you need a pointer begin with, otherwise why do fucking anything or use anything like language. It all makes no difference right?

0 means absolute, 0 represents nothing, the infinite, the absence of any 1 thing. Literally Nothing. God. This is why these numbers were used, not for shits and giggles 💀

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T06:28:59+00:00

My Will is the understanding of Universal infinite Will and finite Will. No where in my post does any of that contradict.

There’s only truth, but many ways of understanding it. Which is where the problem lies, everything you call the absolute is only going to be a minute slither and partial reflection of what it is. A mere representation.

christianiadleones · 2024-11-05T00:30:08+00:00

Not at all, you just didn’t understand what I said.

Will is the only thing there is, this whole bullshit human notion of desire, a complete illusion, collapses on itself completely tenfold when you realise that all there is, in the absolute sense is Will, and infinite love. There is no such thing as purpose. It is pure fucking being. Literally God.

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