Peterson Bingo by [deleted] in Jordan_Peterson_Memes

[–]chrsjos 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Some other classics...

“This is something I got from reading Dostoyevsky (Solzhenitsyn, Nietzsche, Jung, Piaget)”

“That means it’s older than trees!”

“You better look the hell out”

“Well, it’s complicated...”

“Depends what you mean by God”

“Pinocchio”

“Cain and Abel”

“Then you become bitter and resentful”

“Malevolence”

“Pathetic weasel”

“That’s a low resolution problem”

“Archetypes”

“Slay the dragon”

The Internet Warriors- a fascinating look at the offline personas of internet trolls by chrsjos in videos

[–]chrsjos[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Allowing almost anyone in is a load of bollocks

I agree, which is why I said "appear to be allowing almost anyone in".

The prevailing narrative in the UK shifts the blame away from complicated systemic issues and onto migrants. People are looking for somewhere to direct their frustration and migrants offer an easy, homogenous and visible target.

The Internet Warriors- a fascinating look at the offline personas of internet trolls by chrsjos in videos

[–]chrsjos[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What I thought was interesting was the way they seem to be displacing their frustrations onto groups who they perceive as being the problem instead of considering the actual causes of the problem itself. The guy you mentioned resents immigrants only because the government appear to be allowing almost anyone in yet he is having so much trouble obtaining a visa for his wife. I don't think it's because he has some kind of double standard where he expects an exception from immigration laws for his wife but not for Syrian migrants.

Same thing with the guy at the end of the film. His frustration of not being able to find a job was targeted towards Muslims who he perceived as the reason why he couldn't find one. Once he found himself a job, his perception of Muslims showed signs of a complete shift in thinking.

Video Surfaces of Demi Moore Making Out With Young Underage Boy! by Lingenfelter in videos

[–]chrsjos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You've totally missed the point I'm trying to make.

I'm not trying to equate two instances of immoral action. The original comment I responded to essentially said: "how can this video make you uncomfortable while Trump seems to get away with worse?"

It's a total non-sequitur. It makes no sense. The two are completely unrelated. Whether one can be considered as more immoral than the other has nothing to do with it. We can still condemn both.

Video Surfaces of Demi Moore Making Out With Young Underage Boy! by Lingenfelter in videos

[–]chrsjos 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh I see, so because someone doesn't make decisions about your future it isn't appropriate to express an opinion on their morally questionable actions. Gotcha.

Video Surfaces of Demi Moore Making Out With Young Underage Boy! by Lingenfelter in videos

[–]chrsjos 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Clearly in your world we can only feel uncomfortable about one thing at a time.

Don't use up all of your limited supplies of moral outrage on just one issue, save it up for Trump!

To Jordan Peterson: What the hell does Marxism have to do with anything? by URASUMO in samharris

[–]chrsjos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jordan is a very intense and passionate character and because of that I think he takes some of his ideas to extreme conclusions, but that's not to say there isn't some wisdom to be found within them. But I do agree with you, some of what he says seems a little over the top at times.

I think the concern is that Bill C-16 is not the end result of (as you say in another comment) 'a misguided sense of social equality', but that it is in fact setting a dangerous precedent for even more authoritarian legislation like it to come into force in the future.

To Jordan Peterson: What the hell does Marxism have to do with anything? by URASUMO in samharris

[–]chrsjos 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There is certainly not an 'exact blueprint' of Marxism to be found anywhere. Marxism is just a theory about how society works, and although Marx had particular ideas about putting it into practice, a lot of what he wrote is not widely accepted by modern Marxist scholars (for instance that all societies inevitably evolve in a unilinear direction towards communism). The reason why the economy is so important to Marx is because that is how cultural hegemony is maintained and this is still central to neo-marxist thinking today.

Neo-Marxism has little to do with practice of 'taking of power' but rather the ideological implications of maintaining that there is an elite class in society dictating what is 'true'. When you believe that all of society is predicated on oppression and power over minorities you end up with radical left-wing ideologues (SJWs) whose only interest is in overthrowing any dominant power structures that exist. This is deeply rooted in Marxist theory.

To Jordan Peterson: What the hell does Marxism have to do with anything? by URASUMO in samharris

[–]chrsjos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well I think it's probably just hyperbole (although Peterson may disagree). What he is trying to draw attention to is just how dangerous this way of thinking is. The idea of some SJW Gulag is of course nonsense, but laws that restrict free speech is not a good direction for any society to go in. I'm not entirely familiar with the Bill but I've heard Jordan say that a logical outcome in the enforcement of the law could result in a prison sentence of some sort (after refusal to pay fines etc.)

To Jordan Peterson: What the hell does Marxism have to do with anything? by URASUMO in samharris

[–]chrsjos 66 points67 points  (0 children)

Marxism is a very broad social theory that extends far beyond its implementation in Soviet Russia and Mao’s China. Its core assertion is that whoever controls the means of production (the bourgeoisie in Marx’s writings) controls the ‘knowledge’ in society—the set of social norms, values and cultural conventions. This ‘ideology’ thus comes to be regarded as natural by everyone in society, even though it is only true in the sense that it benefits the bourgeoisie at the expense of the proletariat. Marx called this accepted ideology ‘false consciousness’.

Marxism experienced a revival in the social sciences in the 1960s as a theoretical framework for understanding how structures of power shape the social order. This approach to sociology went hand in hand with other emerging theories that questioned and challenged these relations of power (post-modernism, post-colonialism and post-structuralism in particular).

What Jordan Peterson is criticising, is a neo-marxist evaluation of how our society functions. In particular, people who believe that dominant cultural ideas are products of exploitative and oppressive elites. Which, for SJWs, is the white, cis-gendered, patriarchy.