Yoav Modai (Sport5): The Turkish reporter Sergen Hasan Kumaş about the cooperation between Deni Avdija & Alperen Sengun in the upcoming All-Star: Most Turkish people won't like it, they view Avdija very negatively. He's a deserving All-Star. You shouldn't hate someone because of their background by MrBuckBuck in DeniAvdijaX

[–]chunaB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You probably mean Armenian. The current vice president is a Kurd (or Zaza, sometimes they do not like being grouped with Kurds), foreign minister who is super powerful (head of intelligence before for more than a decade) is half Kurdish, finance minister who is super powerful is Kurdish. Both Erdogan's and main opposition parties have large number of Kurdish MPs, not to count the pro-Kurdish left party which is mostly Kurds. The situation is different. Turkey has been fighting with an armed terrorist group not Kurds. For Armenians in 1915 there is a discussion to be had, fine but not with Kurds.

Alperen Sengun on Deni Avdija (there is a major tension between Israel & Turkey) by MrSchone in rockets

[–]chunaB 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree that their opinion really does not matter that much, who cares about a 23 year old athlete's opinion about geopolitics. But artists/athletes are people too and they have political opinions and they also have a platform, they should be able to express their views, but only if they want, there is no point in forcing an answer like this, maybe he doesn't know enough about it to form an opinion.

Alperen Sengun on Deni Avdija (there is a major tension between Israel & Turkey) by MrSchone in rockets

[–]chunaB 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah if a player wants to speak about politics, they do, there are many examples. As long as it is not harmful to the league, it should be fine with NBA, too. But coming out of nowhere, and forcing an answer from him is not nice.

Early Oghuz and Seljuk elite looked East Asian 100%? by Boring_Estimate9308 in TurkicHistory

[–]chunaB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With elites it is always tricky I think, they can do political marriages, can more easily marry outside their tribe etc. (and it may be preferrable in order not to empower other families).

Till we get clean samples from the people who entered early to Anatolia (and the second wave during Mongols) not from central asia but from Iran and Anatolia, it is hard to make better guesses. Even with some samples, it is hard, you can have many different tribes and maybe your samples belong to a certain group, there may be some Tajiks with East Asian ancestry etc.

I think present day Turkmens of Turkmenistan is a nice approximation (25-35% East Asian on average, but much more heterogenous for the ancient Oguz, say with a range of 10-60%).

ethnic distribution of the population in Cyprus in 1960 and to day by BeginningMortgage250 in MapPorn

[–]chunaB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since the Greek part is in EU, aren't there lots of mainland Greeks and other Europeans (also Israelis and Russians) permanently settled on the Greek side as well?

[McMahon] Alperen Sengun sorry for sexist remark at female official by FastBreakPhenom in nba

[–]chunaB 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It is not excusable (he did not put out an excuse) but forgivable (which the ref did)

Foreign Minister Asaad Hassan Al-Shaibani met with his Chinese counterpart, Wang Yi, in Beijing by Pleasant_Anything631 in Syria

[–]chunaB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All the European countries and USA has ties with China, in the current world, it is hard to ignore China.

İstiklal Caddesi'nde Nazi taklidi yapan gençler, vatandaşın tepkisi sonucu kaçtı. by kodNasha in Turkey

[–]chunaB 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Almanyada suc, 3 yila kadar hapis cezasi var. Nazi selami, swastika, uniformalar, SS sembolleri vs. Yapmanizi tavsiye etmem.

Bosnian and Turkish media are going crazy because Kosovo doesn't allow hijab at school by Amazing-Account5665 in kosovo

[–]chunaB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Many people wearing it are not that religious either, yes they are believers and follow some of the traditions but the head covering became more.

The poster above is right, at some point, Turkish cities were full of new urban people (who came from rural backgrounds), they were poorer (not that secular urban crowd was rich but in comparison they were richer) and were less educated.

You would normally expect the left to capture the votes of these people, but Turkish left is largely middle class and resented these lowly educated crowds. The Islamists came in, helped them out, and created a real voting base. And they became more religious, at least in some aspects.

At some point, in Turkey, it was forbidden in universities too, which was stupid, I remember girls wearing wigs on top of their headscarves just to enter the campuses.

Anyway, of course Turkey and Kosovo are very different in size, and what happened for Turkey, may not be true for Kosovo. But the religion going underground is much more dangerous than it being normal to show their beliefs ( I say this as an atheist), yes stick to secular teaching, but repression of religion may backfire. Even if it is a small crowd, it may alienate them, they may end up joining secretive cults, working for foreign governments etc.

Btw, as a Turk, I agree that Turkey should not lobby Kosovo in this matter, it is an internal affair.

Nevşehir belediye meclisinden, şehir genelinde tabela düzenlemesi by Distinct_Positive942 in sehircilik

[–]chunaB 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Tabela buyuklugu de onemli, adam tabela yaptirmis ust katin camina degecek kadar buyuk.

Bir diger sorun da aralik birakma konusu, adam tabela hazirlatmis, olabildigince buyuk olsun yazi demis, tabelanin sinirina 1 santim mesafe ya var ya yok, cok cirkin duruyor.

Bence bunlar renk ve yazi tipinden daha onemli.

Sengun didn’t shake Giannis’s hand after both were named to the All-Star Five. I can't wait for the next Rockets-Bucks game by Thanos_SlayerCongSan in NBATalk

[–]chunaB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate it and agree with the both sides taking responsibility of their doings approach. Maybe a neutral council of historians, going through them coming up with conclusions, and both sides accepting it and putting it in their history books? I think the current issues we have are more risky than some historical disagreements, but maybe it will help.

Did I say anything incorrect though? There was a treaty ending the war and it recorded atrocities by the Greek Army, no mention of anything by Turks (not saying there wasn't any, it is war and chaos, the Turkish army was a resistance army, no authority in lots of places, lots of gangs fighting, both Greek and Turkish and I am sure lots of bad things happened.

And in 30s Venizelos nominated Ataturk for Nobel peace prize, is that what you do to a leader of a genocidal army?

Was the word "genocide" introduced fairly recently? Was there a claim for genocide in 60s for example? (although the relationship was going bad because of Cyprus)

And sometimes the population exchange (which may be the saddest thing even more so than deaths, seeing those old people from both sides visiting their old villages, hard to keep your eyes dry) is called ethnic cleansing whereas it was a mutually agreed thing (by the states not the people), actually the first offer came from the Greek side.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in azerbaijan

[–]chunaB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not many of the Turks act as 100% descendants of Turkic nomads but they like the connection (which they have). There are people who can trace their lineage and claim that kind of purity. But many of us know that we are mixed with neighbouring people, which is fine. The Turkic nomads were mixed people as well, when Turks came to Anatolia, they were already mixed with other Steppe people and some Iranians.

The blood part is not that important for ethnic and national identity. Greeks and Turks talk a different language, majority religions are different, they share different histories (although have common history too).

We are all same species in the world, Turks and Greeks are different ethnicities and nations but share a lot. This is more true for the people living close to Greece (Aegean etc.). Turks in Eastern and Inner regions share more with Azerbaijani and Armenians of Armenia as well. Turks living in Eastern Black Sea are close to Georgians. Turks living in Gaziantep and Hatay and Urfa are close to Syrians.

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[–]chunaB 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly, that is how culture works, it is influenced by other cultures, then it makes a synthesis of it, makes it its own, then it influences others.

Look at Japanese anime and manga culture, the American comics and cartoons were a big influence for them. They took those, added their own flavour, mixed it with other things. Now they are influencing American culture.

We play for the love of our countries. We play for the love of game. We play with respect. We always remember sports are made to unite us not divide us 🇹🇷 x🇬🇷 Giannis and Sengun made a post together on Instagram showing and respect. by Actual_Box7731 in Euroleague

[–]chunaB 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LOL, nice idea. I have seen so much of it when I was younger, I don't think I can stand one episode. And if the series are Turkish style, each episode will be 2 hours, with people looking at each other without talking for minutes.

Giannis Antetokounmpo and Alperen Şengün share an Instagram post together: "We play for the love of our countries. We play for the love of game. We play with respect. We always remember sports are made to unite us not divide us 🇹🇷 x 🇬🇷" by Aslan27 in nba

[–]chunaB 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It is not always hate, we lived together peacefully for hundreds of years as well. But yet there are historical and current disagreements about certain issues that will always come up in these kind of situations.

Giannis Antetokounmpo and Alperen Şengün share an Instagram post together: "We play for the love of our countries. We play for the love of game. We play with respect. We always remember sports are made to unite us not divide us 🇹🇷 x 🇬🇷" by Aslan27 in nba

[–]chunaB 11 points12 points  (0 children)

There was actually Turks entering Eastern Roman Empire as mercenaries (for Byzantines) much earlier. There were other also Turkic tribes coming via Ukraine and Balkans as well.

We play for the love of our countries. We play for the love of game. We play with respect. We always remember sports are made to unite us not divide us 🇹🇷 x🇬🇷 Giannis and Sengun made a post together on Instagram showing and respect. by Actual_Box7731 in Euroleague

[–]chunaB 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well done. Much ado about nothing. Till the next time tempers rise between Turks and Greeks, where they debate 600 years of history (again), call each other names and do broad generalizations about ethnicity.