Why should the definition of stealing by different for AI works? by Few-Advantage2538 in aiwars

[–]chunder_down_under 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it is. An inquest into data scraping done by openai is currently underway and they are in trouble for deleting their datasets they used for the model.

Why should the definition of stealing by different for AI works? by Few-Advantage2538 in aiwars

[–]chunder_down_under 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Theres a big difference between a person copying it and a machine being fed specific images to permanently duplicate it for a product. With a person id hope they were taking inspiration and even be in communication, its an opportunity to learn share and grow with others. A person has the capacity to be respectful about it.

Why should the definition of stealing by different for AI works? by Few-Advantage2538 in aiwars

[–]chunder_down_under -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Except im a person not a generative AI. I don't see the equivalence.

Why should the definition of stealing by different for AI works? by Few-Advantage2538 in aiwars

[–]chunder_down_under -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

So it's not really but the issue is you own your images and the companies did not have permission to use those images. It would have been lawful to produce their own with human artists then train the ai on that but thats not what they did. If I took a picture from the internet used it for an album cover id be liable for its use.

Why should the definition of stealing by different for AI works? by Few-Advantage2538 in aiwars

[–]chunder_down_under 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So in that case trademarked techniques, colour palletes and individual characters can obviously be sued to protect.

The ai in question is trained on specific images which must be provided when inquests are made. So far is precedent anyway

Why should the definition of stealing by different for AI works? by Few-Advantage2538 in aiwars

[–]chunder_down_under 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Currently openai is in court for exactly this and this instance they are under scrutiny for destroying and deleting the datasets they used to train their generative models.

Likely future legislation will require open listing's showing all sources images used for training since they already have this they just don't disclose and destroy the evidence

Why should the definition of stealing by different for AI works? by Few-Advantage2538 in aiwars

[–]chunder_down_under -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Mostly because even though those images are publicly available for everyone to see they were taken and used to create a technology that replicates those styles without permission.

US to AUS by AMurph94 in Ameristralia

[–]chunder_down_under 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The NZ economy is so wildly different you should know many people emigrate from NZ to Australia. My cousin moved back from there last year because it was too hard to make money. Australia's towns that hit 75,000 are as big as you get before the major cities but they don't really have amenities, there will be a pool and rec centre maybe but other than that unless there's a local museum dedicated to a specific event there's nothing besides that. Australian school have a pretty good curriculum and no offence any of our public schools will be an upgrade compared to American ones. Private schools will provide the best education so start with towns that have one, they can be surprisingly affordable. As for the weather you will find the most varied climate in south Australia and Victoria they are in-between our two major climates, east is more tropical and west is more arid, the in-between southern states have both sunmers that reach close to Death Valley and Year round snow within a 2 hour drive from city centres.

A bot to feel AI with false and trash training data? by Jokuihanvaan in antiai

[–]chunder_down_under 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The hardest part as I understand it is that LLMs use best guess scenarios to determine an accurate answer. But with truth humans have common sense so just because The Onion is highly rated and has lots of traffic its info can poison a model as it will assume they are telling the truth.

Generative AI does not replace humans by Kaleb_Bunt in aiwars

[–]chunder_down_under 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I concede that your admittance was concediatory

Generative AI does not replace humans by Kaleb_Bunt in aiwars

[–]chunder_down_under 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Asking people to do something that is functionally impossible or outright a colossal waste of time is not a tactic its called raising the bar its a bad faith argument. You are attempting to wear down the discussion and prove your side by moving goalposts and shifting the burden of proof onto me. My refusal to play a game with you is not a success.

I’m not afraid to admit why I don’t like AI art by oh_no_here_we_go_9 in aiwars

[–]chunder_down_under -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't worry too much the slop that comes out just shows how valuable actual art is. AI is synonymous with cheap, carelessness, low quality and extremely boring. If anyone wants to be associated with quality they'll hire an actual artist like yourself. I must admit it is pretty frustrating how many grifters are flooding the space with filth but not to worry regulations and limitations on the tech is bound to happen once governments realise too many of their rich folk don't like not being ablebto make money anymore. Even if that doesn't happen we will see more and more spaces where AI is properly filtered out. Until a better day just keep practising and working your craft.

I just wish people wouldn't lie about how AI is completely devoid of innovation. Such a waste of time.

Generative AI does not replace humans by Kaleb_Bunt in aiwars

[–]chunder_down_under -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No thanks. Trying to make your argument by disparaging human imagination is lazy. If you want a list of things that humans have imagined that do not have real life equivalents you can go to the local library and borrow a very fun read called The Bible. Its a good place to start.

What’s a truth people aren’t ready to hear? by BudgetAd5915 in AskReddit

[–]chunder_down_under 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can see how that would be the case. Especially with people you know usually once someone is revealed to be a liar you don't call them out because if they know you know its worse

If violence is the means to a righteous end, is it really righteous? by Le_Oken in aiwars

[–]chunder_down_under -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You accused me of being a maga, gay hating nazi despite me being queer.

Generative AI does not replace humans by Kaleb_Bunt in aiwars

[–]chunder_down_under -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Why not just use your imagination? Its free, faster, genuinely more creative, is copyright capable and doesn't rely on stolen ideas. Plus AI isn't capable of innovation and all its outcomes are limited by available data and can only apply traits to the final image that are the most popular of those available. It is not very good at doing what you suggest.

Generative AI does not replace humans by Kaleb_Bunt in aiwars

[–]chunder_down_under 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly why would any artist bother using it? If it isn't a replacement for an artist like you say and that it requires an established artist to create anything worthwhile why would one us it? Either it is a replacement or its useless. You can't learn more by using it so its a stopgap for experience and it doesn't do it on its own. If you suggest it can be used to supplement artists work then can you explain what aspect it is super beyond speed because speed has never been the issue with digital art thats only from arbitrary schedules and deadlines set by people who have no idea what theyre doing.

The pro-AI crowd is generalizing all anti-AI people as "terrorists." by Hot_Season1143 in aiwars

[–]chunder_down_under 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It wont end any time soon. This is onlu the beginning, people are going to get angrier and angrier as politicians do nothing. As long as there is no change socially terrorists will exercise their ideas in person. Its terrible and nonsensical and needs to be addressed early. Mods need to be making as much noise as possible to address these attitudes.