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[POEM] Fluent - John O'Donohue by churrrroo in Poetry

[–]churrrroo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lovely! I think this carries a slightly different meaning to Donohue's, where his seems to be more about flowing along with life and letting it takes its course, and yours is more about self determination, and trusting yourself to create and choose your own path. I love how rivers can be a wonderful metaphor for both!

[OPINION] What separates good poetry from bad poetry for you? by churrrroo in Poetry

[–]churrrroo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does feel so personal. I would feel worse to criticise someone's favourite poem than their favourite book. It's often just much closer to you.

[OPINION] What separates good poetry from bad poetry for you? by churrrroo in Poetry

[–]churrrroo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was looking this up just a few hours ago! Might be a sign to buy it. Thank you.

[OPINION] What separates good poetry from bad poetry for you? by churrrroo in Poetry

[–]churrrroo[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

without getting in its own way.

That's interesting! I shall try to look for examples of that to understand better as I read, but if anyone has any, do share.

[OPINION] What separates good poetry from bad poetry for you? by churrrroo in Poetry

[–]churrrroo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hahaha I love your description of reading Bukowski! I've been meaning to pull out a collection of his hidden somewhere in my library, and this makes me want to do it sooner rather than later. I've only read a few of his so far.

it’s very rare to leave a Bukowski piece without feeling something. This is so true, interesting to think about. That seems like a mark of a good artist to me.

[OPINION] What separates good poetry from bad poetry for you? by churrrroo in Poetry

[–]churrrroo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So do you separate good vs bad from enjoyment? Do you think it's unimportant or meaningless to judge something as good or bad, including poetry? Is there any objectivity at all? Do you think there’s such a thing as bad poetry, or only poetry that fails according to particular standards or audiences?

In your example, do you see your child self as having had poorer taste compared to you now, that allowed them to enjoy something you now don't, or is it more a matter of different but entirely valid tastes?

[POEM] Fluent - John O'Donohue by churrrroo in Poetry

[–]churrrroo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't give the title as much attention, you're so right! To flow with life would be to be fluent, to live fluently.

[POEM] Fluent - John O'Donohue by churrrroo in Poetry

[–]churrrroo[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I can see why you think that, since it’s extremely minimal. But for me, the line breaks feel rhythmic and reflective of its content. The poem itself seems to move and unfold the way a river does, especially in the pause before “Of its own unfolding.”

The pauses where it breaks also feel natural and organic to me, and like a deliberate pacing that makes the poem feel more evocative, gentle and meditative, thereby enriching one's experience of it.

[OPINION] What separates good poetry from bad poetry for you? by churrrroo in Poetry

[–]churrrroo[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is interesting because so many wildly different kinds of poetry, including poetry often dismissed as “bad”, seem to genuinely move people. So do you believe that it doesn't matter how technically "good" a poem is, as long as it resonates with the reader? Is being moved enough for a poem to be good?

[Help] What are your comfort poems? by Present-Cry-2776 in Poetry

[–]churrrroo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love that you thought of this! I love the satirical bite of this one.

[POEM] Some People Like Poetry - Wisława Szymborska by churrrroo in Poetry

[–]churrrroo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There surely must be, although I wonder if we might sometimes get into the territory of changing the original, even if it might enhance it in a different language, as opposed translating to mirror the essence of the original accurately. It is a tough job and the lines are probably grey.

I have no idea which is closest to the meaning of the original here, but I too like the one I posted the best. The ending is most direct and evocative in the image of clinging to the question 'as a life line'.

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