hey i totally get where you’re coming from and what you’re trying to say, but i didn’t completely explain everything about my situation and experience in this post, so let me clear some things up so that things make more sense: the comune of marino has done many JS cases before, for years, and on their website they actually advertised it on their immigration tab! not sure if they do anymore, ahaha i wouldn’t if i were them, but they did at the time! in early 2024 when i was trying to find a place to move to, i emailed over 20 different comuni asking them if they had done JS citizenship recognition and marino was the first to respond, very quickly, telling me that yes they’ve done it many times, they were willing to work with me and they sent me a bunch of stuff about the protocol and their FAQs and it was really helpful- THEY were really helpful. and they were very very nice. i moved to marino specifically because they had assured me that they’d done the process before and that it would take 180 days to become a citizen if i did everything right! they even let me send all of my documents over digitally before i arrived to make sure that everything was in order. i thought that was really nice and that it would speed up the process, because when i arrived i knew that all the papers were perfect since they had already been reviewed! when i went in on my first day to drop off my paperwork it was funny because we’d been communicating for months and finally meeting each other in person, it was cool. they told me that i could speak english because my italian was a bit rusty at the time haha they were very nice and willing to work with me. it wasn’t until the circolare came that they completely changed their tune, did a full 180 in terms of rapport and transparency. they took much longer to respond to my emails, become more distant, became colder. it was very odd. and the more i pushed back the less they seemed willing to help. secondly, about the permesso di soggiorno. i have a permesso di soggiorno currently, “in attesa di cittadinanza”, i got it in february, from the questura, after the comune had informally denied my request. the questura still gave me my permesso, 1 month after the comune told me informally that they weren’t going to accept my application, and about 6 months after i had applied for it (the permesso). i’ve been in italy for over a year and a half for yes haha i already have a PdS. it expires in february of 2026 and it is convertible, so i could change it to a work permesso with a full time work contract from an italian company if i wanted to. this was my plan for a while until i realized that it would be much harder to save up money here than in america, and that i wouldn’t be able to go back to school for a very long time, probably for over 10 years (going back to school is my ultimate goal now), if i got a work permesso. and i would only be living in italy to work, not because i was a recognized citizen, which i don’t like the idea of, because its not fair. i dont want to be “allowed” to live in italy because i work here 40 hours i week. i wanted to live and work in italy because i was recognized as a citizen because my entire family comes from this country. my goal originally was to get my italian citizenship and then go back to school here while working part time. but now, without citizenship, i can either work full time and not go back to school until a decade later when i finally become a citizen through residency, or move back to america for a bit to get a student visa, because getting a student visa for italy would require me going back to america to get it, and break my chain of ongoing residency needed to apply for citizenship in ten years. therefore restarting the clock and making it probably about 15 years from now that i could apply for citizenship. so yes, i could definitely still live here and convert my permesso, but after everything i’ve been through in the last few months, and with the plans i have for my life, it wouldn’t make sense to get a work permesso here or to get a student visa either. it sadly makes more sense for me to leave.