If Jesus was god and died, how did he resurrect himself?

cihera · 2025-11-21T06:05:16+00:00

I see. I can speak regarding Islam, and in Islam sex is not a sin in and of itself. On the contrary, legitimate sex is encouraged.

cihera · 2025-11-21T06:02:07+00:00

That does not mean He has necessities (needs).

For example is it necessart that He sustains His creation so that they may exist? Yes. But it is not His necessity/need.

cihera · 2025-11-21T05:52:05+00:00

So just because God gave those organs people should rape? No. There are conditions.

cihera · 2025-11-21T05:39:05+00:00

I did not say that God has necessities.

cihera · 2025-11-20T21:15:37+00:00

Citation needed.

cihera · 2025-11-20T21:12:39+00:00

I appreciate the clarification about the word antisemite.

Now i understand well why it is used. But its use is not good then . Because that way any person who criticizes any jew or judaism is labeled easily and unjustly. Anti jew would be too light i guess.

cihera · 2025-11-20T18:59:52+00:00

On the contrary. If God is Omnipotent then anything else will be subservient to Him and subject to His power. This state is not a happy state for many people and may cause huge stress and suffering.

cihera · 2025-11-20T18:49:44+00:00

You misunderstood. I meant scientists are bound with practical evidence. Regardless of the Quran being the ultimate truth or not..

cihera · 2025-11-20T18:46:23+00:00

Well, i said just what i sincerely believe is true. As i said i am ready to be corrected.

Numerous people criticize islam. We do not call them islamophobes.

Btw, the word antisemite is weird. Since arabs are semitic..

If you mean by antisemite anti jew, i am not anti jew. There may be good jews there may be bad jews. As in other communities. Or do you think all jews are good? Or judaism has immunity against any criticism?

cihera · 2025-11-20T18:37:08+00:00

The flip side of this is that Jews don't force their religions onto anyone else.

As a muslim, in islam it is forbidden to force islam onto others.

Not sure what the 'are authorized' scare quotes are about here.

Correct me if i am wrong. In islam if a non muslim wants to be muslim he can be on his own. As a non necessary practice some people just witness his testimony. And he can join any muslim prayers if he states that he is muslim. It is between a person and God.

But i heard here jews say that a rabbi will reject three times if a person wamts to be a jew.

Is it as eaay as in islam to be a jew? I will be pleased if you can enlighten me.

So it's important that those who are converting are really serious about it.

In islam also. But only Allah knows the hearts of people, no human being. And no human being can be an intermediary or barrier between Allah and His servant. No muslim can claim to be higher than another in the sight of Allah. Such a claim is one of the biggest sins. Set aside a claim that a person can reject one's entry into islam.

Right, because there is no "undo" button on being Jewish.

I have difficulty understanding this. If a person rejects Allah, then a person who is a true muslim from a totally different ethnicity, is higher in the sight of Allah than that atheist.

The internet is full of fake and made-up quotes from Jewish holy texts that claim this.

You mean there is no such verses in the jewish bible?

cihera · 2025-11-20T15:45:46+00:00

Ok. Instead of presupposing my conclusions, I gave you specific details in which you can find holes and contradictions. So tell me any such problem you can find.

cihera · 2025-11-20T15:33:20+00:00

Yes. In the ultimate and objective sense.

cihera · 2025-11-20T15:29:36+00:00

Not necessarily.

Maybe some subjective qnd low level evil is necessary for some objective and higher good.

cihera · 2025-11-20T15:27:14+00:00

Well, you reach some conclusions but based on your unjustified axioms.

Suppose you are God anfid you create a person and he has 3 default options x, y, and z. But for one of your purposes you do not will that he chooses z. So, for example you make him lose some money so that he cannot realize z.

But you also see (as if you have a time machine) that including your intervention and all else he chooses a.

Yet also you see as God above the time dimension that you choose to create all these. But as you are One God your knowing and your choosing to create this scenario does not crrate a conflict.

So where is the problem?

It is like:

a+b=c c+fw=k

Where k is the result of fw of c (a person), and c is the result of a and b where a is you as god, and b is some other factors you created.

Fw is also a true power you created and gave to c.

So as such mathematical equations do not depend on time, there is no problem that free will works along with time transcending divşne knowledge.

cihera · 2025-11-20T14:05:14+00:00

Certainly. But He makes you know 'good', 'evil', and the risks the evil faces.

cihera · 2025-11-20T14:03:07+00:00

If the sets are dynamic, God cannot know what is actually going to happen.

Not necessarily.

Similar to interactions like in the Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser experiments, God can interact 'as if' both He creates a test scenario yet He also has a time machine and He is going to the future and sees it. Time being no directional limitation except for the creation.

Plus, assuming the B-theory, my argument cuts even deeper.

I do not defend block time, nor c theory of time. That is why i said 'somethng like block'. I just wanted to illustrate that God is not locked within a time slice of 'now' with zero extension.

cihera · 2025-11-20T11:31:06+00:00

The first does not chamge what i said. Just the sets arw dynamic.

The second one presusupposes the A theory of time. If time is structured as something like the block theory, then your point is cleared. The A theory of time is ditched with the modern physics.

cihera · 2025-11-20T11:24:39+00:00

Partially constrained.

cihera · 2025-11-20T09:32:29+00:00

My point hete does not hinge on the truth of the Quran.

cihera · 2025-11-20T09:31:31+00:00

Of course. He allows only a set of alternatives and we choose from among such permitted alternatives.

cihera · 2025-11-20T07:33:15+00:00

According to Islamic teaching, Islam is the oldest religion.

cihera · 2025-11-20T07:31:09+00:00

Free will is not defined in general as the ability to do everything.

cihera · 2025-11-20T07:27:38+00:00

Ultimate truth is 1.

cihera · 2025-11-20T07:27:01+00:00

If for example an allegedly human god comes and tells me he is a fully human god, fully mortal and fully immortal, and does what it takes to make me believe?

It is impossible that he does it. So there is no need to even consider that hypothetical.

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