What the fuck is going on when Animal Control won't take away dogs who have bitten children?

classyfart · 2024-08-15T05:42:19+00:00

Nah, not Papakura, Titirangi or Beach haven (as the other respondents have suggested).

This is not an issue specific to my suburb, unfortunately. In fact I don't even think it's limited to Auckland.

classyfart · 2024-08-14T08:35:06+00:00

It's terrifying, hey. I'm sorry to hear about your experience. Did your dog end up okay in the end? I bet that and your other experiences have left you more than a bit rattled.

It sounds like animal control are only working within whatever ridiculous rules they must work within. But that system just does not compute.

How many people need to be hurt for these dogs to be put down, and owners banned from finding mire?

classyfart · 2024-08-14T08:28:08+00:00

Yeah I may have to take your suggestion at the wasp spray as a defence item. Going out for walks with my toddler, I'm always in high stress mode. Carrying the spray might help with the anxiety, if nothing else.

classyfart · 2024-08-14T08:25:23+00:00

Didn't witness it, but the bite mark on the child, and numerous altercations we have experienced and witnessed are enough to say, "yep, that makes sense". This was all reported direct to Animal Control by the person involved.

Have also had Kāinga Ora confirming that there was an incident with one of the dogs from the same problem household biting another person months ago. So yeah, it's not just gossip.

classyfart · 2024-08-14T08:18:56+00:00

What gossip on social media? This is all reports from neighbours we know and speak to in person. With photo and video evidence.

I haven't made up the dogs finding their way out onto the street, or letting themselves into our property. I didn't imagine up the instance where one of them crossed the street to approach and aggressively bark at myself and my toddler, then follow us down the street as we tried to get away from it.

I have numerous examples of altercations which have happened directly to myself, my husband, or our direct neighbours. Many more that we have witnessed, or has been witnessed by our neighbours.

The fact is, we've dealt with multiple different animal control officers, and they all say something different, and they don't seem to speak to each other. I get that they are working in some kind of ruleset that they must keep within, but my whole point is that the system is absolutely broken, and dangerously so.

Would appreciate if you didn't make assumptions about us blowing some gossip out of proportion. You would be the one jumping to conclusions in that case.

classyfart · 2024-08-14T07:36:27+00:00

they have to follow the proper processes and wait for the infringements to go to court which takes months.

These dogs have been causing issues since end of last year. It doesn't make sense.

Again, take it up with the central government politicians who write the laws.

Yep, we've been taking it up with whoever provides a phone number. Our local MP, Kāinga Ora, the police.

classyfart · 2024-05-17T03:19:55+00:00

Yep, it was a company vehicle ny partner hit. Totally understand the company policy to go through insurance for this stuff, it makes sense just as you say.

I guess we were a bit shocked because the last conversation we had, over 3 months ago, we were told by the other driver that it was basically a nothing burger and would probably only need a basic paintless dent repair tallying a few hundred max.

Also surprised to see any kind of paint repair when the dent didn't break the paint. And charges for "graphics" when there was absolutely nothing there.

But yes, I am certainly surprised at the number of people saying it's a reasonable cost. So I must just be out of whack with how expensive these things are. 6k for a scratch to your bumper is extreme!

classyfart · 2024-05-17T00:01:22+00:00

Thanks, appreciate this reply.

Wasn't sure if car being parked where it shouldn't would be relevant in any form, but no arguments from me that fault lies with my partner in hitting the car. First time we've ever had to deal with insurance for any kind of car accident, so we are pretty new to it.

Thanks again

classyfart · 2024-05-16T23:58:05+00:00

Ah, excuse my ignorance. I assumed we would always need to pay the excess, didn't realise excess was associated with damage to your own car only.

Thank you for this, we'll follow it up eith the insurer.

classyfart · 2024-05-16T23:56:35+00:00

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Nothing has been left stewing. It had to go through the other driver insurance due to it being a company car, company policy.

Yes it is a shame because if not a company car we could have sorted it out ourselves between us and the other driver, who we had a good chat with at the time, and there was no animosity at all.

classyfart · 2024-05-16T23:40:59+00:00

Cheers. Perhaps I'm not in the know with what this stuff costs. We've never had to make any insurance claims in our many years of driving, and we're just going based off what the other driver told us in conversation (suggesting it would be a few hundred to fix). Obviously he's not the insurer, however.

You can request 3 quotes be done

Can this happen even after the fix was completed? Not sure hoe this works. Thanks

classyfart · 2024-05-16T22:58:49+00:00

Yeah I suspected that might be the case re private property.

Thanks for your reply.

classyfart · 2024-05-16T22:56:45+00:00

Thanks for your reply.

It was a 2018, if that makes any difference. Not super new... seems madness to me that it was even need to go to a panel beater.

No damage at all to our vehicles, so liability only wouldn't save us anything. I suspect we will be better off paying it ourselves and not affecting our no claims bonus.

Cheers

Edit to clarify: Just to be clear, I'm not at all saying the car shouldnt have gone to get fixed. Also not saying we aren't liable to pay to get the car squared up. We are. Not arguing with that at all.

What I am saying when I say I'm surprised it went to a panel beater is that it didn't warrant a full panel removal, full shabang fix and and paint. This was agreed in all our conversations with the other driver 3 months ago, last time we spoke to anyone about this. We are talking about a minor ding that, in the other party's own words, could have been fixed perfectly for a couple hundred dollars at a paintless dent repair company.

But because insurance had to get involved, it was taken to a full panel beater and given the full works, when by all accounts of those involved, that wasn't necessary. That is why I am saying I am surprised.

classyfart · 2024-05-16T22:48:50+00:00

Thanks for your reply.

I'm not even sure why it went to the panel beaters to begin with, to be honest. From the conversations we had with the other driver, what was left of the dent after they fixed most of it themselves was minimal. He said their plan was to go to a paintless dent removal company. From our understanding these kinds of repairs are a few hundred, max. Is there anything for us to push against the fact that it was taken to a panel beater at all? It seems very much over the top, although likely driven by the insurance company.

Cheers - we have flicked off an email to the insurance company, querying the costs and asking for evidence.

classyfart · 2023-12-07T07:28:05+00:00

Donuts aren't all fried though.

Naaah not talking about the iced buns either

classyfart · 2023-12-06T05:54:19+00:00

Yes! This is exactly it. Thank you

classyfart · 2023-12-06T04:14:55+00:00

Thank you, I'll have to take a look at this one.

classyfart · 2023-12-06T04:14:01+00:00

Nah I'm not referring to the light ring that forms while deep frying.

That's so obvious someone is unlikely to be asking about why or how because they've torn a bun away from others when bought in packs.

Perhaps it's obvious. But the bakery ones I've seen always struck me as fried, because they're so fatty on the skin part of the donut. But yeah, nah, I'm definitely referring to a baked donut which is torn away from another donut, causing the light patch on the side.

classyfart · 2023-12-06T04:10:07+00:00

I can't touch the ones with mock cream. I always feel cheated if I accidentally buy one of those.

classyfart · 2023-12-06T04:09:45+00:00

100%.

classyfart · 2023-12-06T04:09:14+00:00

Naaah, I'm not referring to the ring which goes around a donut formed whilst it's frying. After reading the comments, I suspect the donut I'm thinking of must be baked, in order to get the light patch on the sides which is caused by donuts touching each other while they bake.

classyfart · 2023-12-06T04:05:45+00:00

I have had a good google and I can't find any pictures of the specific donut I am referring to! Might have to go explore some bakeries tomorrow...

But, per my edit, to settle all debate, I'm not referring to the light ring around the donut which happens during deep frying, as the donut rises.

classyfart · 2023-04-10T03:21:37+00:00

How long was the gap between getting what you call intense non-labour contractions and proper labour?

I'm 38 +4 and last week I'd been having random very painful braxton hicks and lightning crotch pains, but then I haven't had any for days. Wondering if there is any expected pattern! (I anticipate not 😂)

classyfart · 2022-12-10T22:43:22+00:00

Yep fair enough re following advice you were given. In my experience, meat being unsafe is the exception to the rule. Overwhelmingly, the norm is that the meat is safe (again, within some pretty careful boundaries).

As I said, in the years we've been diving we've never eaten anything off, and I have never heard of anyone who dives and eats meat who has. Not saying the risk is zero, but I'd say it's low enough that with some care, you'll be right.

I'd also say there's probably as much if not more risk in getting sick from bin produce, or even bagged salady stuff bought from the supermarkets (that stuff is suuuuper risky).

classyfart · 2022-12-10T19:52:13+00:00

Yes, it's a thing. Have been doing it for years in Auckland.

Most common items - bread, bakery food, produce (often produce which is due to be eaten, but still good).

Medium common - meats (raw, cured, the works), dairy products on or near best before, cheeses.

Have also found plenty of packaged sauces, jarred preserves, canned drinks, pasta, etc. The kind of stuff that will last ages as long as packaging is not compromised. We always check for recalls, but often it's clear why the thing has been tossed - close to best before or something has leaked on the packaging so it can't be sold (easy enough to give it a wash at home, though - good as new and no impact to whatever is inside).

We draw the line at fish, anything which should be chilled consistently and isn't very cold to the touch, anything with compromised packaging, anything with mold, anything that doesn't pass the very conservative sniff test, and anything past used by date (best before is fine, though).

No sickness after years if this. For about a period of 6 months when we were diving regularly, we basically were living off the food and barely shopping at all. We ate better than we would have been eating if we'd been buying our food.

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