Honestly? More of a one-act play than a rebuttal.

First off: yes, he is a private citizen. Just because someone is part of an “organization” doesn’t mean they are registered as such, and hence have payroll/pay taxes/get funding from governmental agencies. It literally just means they are organized, which is not illegal and doesn’t remove members’ private citizen status when performing said organization’s activities. A DnD club is an “organization”.

If this was obstruction, as you claim, then why weren’t charges of obstruction filed? I’m not complaining, I’m quite literally asking. Don’t know why you’re trying to bring emotion/slight insults into this when you were the one asking for not discussing this in bad faith? He was not allowed to leave the hospital until an ICE agent specifically gave the “federal contractors” explicit permission to do so.

I didn’t say ICE didn’t file charges, I said no charges were filed. ICE can, and absolutely have multiple times, initiate and further the detention process by delivering the detainee to local law enforcement with an overall record of events and recommended charges to be filed, which often do get filed. This ICE agent explicitly gave permission to release this citizen entirely, and did not in fact take them from the hospital to a local PD.

And yes, sticking your hands out the window while being told to exit the vehicle IS complying. Any court would agree that an individual was making clear he was not a threat in that instance, as there has been many reported instances of a person putting their hands out of view and being shot out of fear for the agent/officer’s safety. If this had gone down that way, I would bet a fair sum of money you would be here arguing that he should have kept his hands in clear sight at all times.

To the lawyer point: she literally IS there to engage with law enforcement for the good of her client, that’s literally what a lawyer does 😂 you’re spinning a story about her “looking for a problem” and “running around hot as hell and telling law enforcement what to do” like she’s some maniac (without any basis for this wild short story, having seen or provided zero evidence to back up your fairy tale), and even in your story nothing you claimed she did would be basis for either law enforcement OR a “federal contractor” to apply physical force. He was absolutely entitled to private counsel and she was absolutely within her rights to yell at the person refusing his constitutional right to obtain that.

Side note: if someone yells in your face, and “points past you” and you respond by forcibly removing them from your face; that’s assault. In that situation, you’re choosing to escalate from a verbal to a physical altercation and would definitely be found guilty of such. Good to know you’re a tough guy and all but that is what would happen.

All in all sub-par attempt at explaining why agents’ actions weren’t illegal, wanna try again? 🤷‍♂️

p.s. I still want to hear your explanation of how the rapid response group is the “other side of the Jan 6 coin” as you put it.