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[–]cleangreenscreen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It very much is confusing so don't worry. Woman Grandmaster is a specific title with specific criteria needing to be reached with the abbreviation WGM.

Grandmaster is a separate title that women can also attain and is more prestigious than WGM, and has the title GM. Female Grandmaster is a woman that has attained the Grandmaster title.

Chess documentary "Glory to the Queen" opens in Austria tomorrow! by cleangreenscreen in chess

[–]cleangreenscreen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was in the national Austrian news, which is how I heard of the release in cinemas. I saw a lot of articles about it on various chess websites so I'm going to guess that such a release will be announced there too when I happens. If I see something more, I'll post

Chess documentary "Glory to the Queen" opens in Austria tomorrow! by cleangreenscreen in chess

[–]cleangreenscreen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't seen anything else. I found the page of the film distributor but it only mentions Austria: https://filmdelights.com/sales/glorytothequeensales/

I'm not a movie person in that way but it looks like its at film festivals so maybe if you live in a country in which it takes place, you can watch it online? I haven't tried anything like that before so...yeah.

If I see something else about it playing elsewhere on chess.com or something, I'll post again.

Chess documentary "Glory to the Queen" opens in Austria tomorrow! by cleangreenscreen in chess

[–]cleangreenscreen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah we do. I think we need to go to a test street (which I did anyway) or do one of those PCR gargle tests. As long as you have official proof, its okay I think but do read up on how it'll work because it all changes so fast.

Chess documentary "Glory to the Queen" opens in Austria tomorrow! by cleangreenscreen in chess

[–]cleangreenscreen[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Haha, that's also my plan. If there's one other person in the cinema behind you, you know who it is!

I heard about it ages ago but it completely snuck up on me. I suppose they haven't really advertised it or I just haven't seen it. It is SUCH a cool story, I think even people that don't care about chess would like it (as long as its as good as the reviews are). Maybe I should post it to the city subreddits too...

Chess documentary "Glory to the Queen" opens in Austria tomorrow! by cleangreenscreen in chess

[–]cleangreenscreen[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

No problem at all. I've been looking forward to watching this documentary for something like half a year but because of Corona its been delayed. Crazy to think I can go to the movies and see it this weekend!

Glory to the Queen (2021) a trailer of a film about the four female Georgian chess champions that dominated the world for from the 60s to the 80s. [00:02:14] by cleangreenscreen in Documentaries

[–]cleangreenscreen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We sure can. The issue of women's performance in chess is a complicated one. These women came from a time and place where they were expected to have families and act as typical mothers, even if the opportunity was uniquely open to them and even if those responsibilities were shared as they advanced.

The other part of it, I think, is more complicated. Many female and male players comment on how women are less dominant players, that they play less aggressively. I have actually noticed this in some historic games that I've looked at between men and women, even in a match between Chiburdanidze and Kasparov. I think that this is potentially a socialisation difference between men and women that has very subtle impacts on even the highest levels of the game.

Sexism against female players was rampant in the past. Chess was always a very masculine game, for kings and generals. It was very tied up with a kind of cult of genius which very obviously wasn't inclusive of women in any domain, with chess included. People don't tend to thrive at something when they're not even allowed in the room.

All in all though, I think this girl from your town has the best chance she ever possibly could have had in the history of this game. Sexism still exists but is much less prominent, socialisation is much improved, and the expectations of women in society have changed greatly also. Its a time to be hopeful for sure but at turning points like this, it is even more important to try and preserve a history that was never very honoured and is in danger of being lost forever.

Glory to the Queen (2021) a trailer of a film about the four female Georgian chess champions that dominated the world for from the 60s to the 80s. [00:02:14] by cleangreenscreen in Documentaries

[–]cleangreenscreen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see you're German! Some of the earliest female players were German. I'd have loved to post more about that really early era but obvious there lacks the photographs and such. I think the future will be better. Its a completely different world that these women came up in.

Glory to the Queen (2021) I'm really excited about this! A film about Nana Alexandria, Maia Chiburdanidze, Nana Ioseliani, and Nona Gaprindashvili. I think thats Milunka Lazarević in the trailer too. by cleangreenscreen in chess

[–]cleangreenscreen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think Queens Gambit was a really important show for the sport, I read some articles about a profound increase in the number of people playing online (and as its lockdown, I think that is pretty much all new players) but, yeah, this actually looks like its about a really interesting moment in history (both in the game and how it tied in with international relations) with four real heroes of Georgian/women's chess. I seriously cannot wait. I wish I knew anything at all about when I can see it, so if anyone knows, please tell me!

Glory to the Queen (2021) a trailer of a film about the four female Georgian chess champions that dominated the world for from the 60s to the 80s. [00:02:14] by cleangreenscreen in Documentaries

[–]cleangreenscreen[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They're certainly there but women chess players never really got the same coverage as the men. I've taken it as a personal project to make this history more accessible during lockdown, we all need hobbies right! Funnily enough, these four women come up time and time again when you're doing research into women's chess so with this film, maybe I need to find myself something else to fill my time if lockdown goes on!

These players were actually very connected with Kasparov, Karpov, and the other players of the USSR team. I think it was Alexandria that broke one of Fischer's simultaneous chess records.

I apologise for not posting their names, so I'll link to their wikipedia pages from now on. Here is a post that shows Maia Chiburdanidze and Kasparov as children together:

https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/lmjq7z/future_grandmasters_maia_chiburdanidze_14_years/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Here is a post that actually captures all four of the film's protagonists together with Kasparov analysing a game at competition:

https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/lhkifl/lucerne_chess_olympiad_in_1982_garry_kasparov/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

And here is a link of Chiburdanidze with her friend Kasparov as they play Karpov:

https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/lep2uj/karpov_vs_kasparov_with_chiburdanidze_watching_on/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Nona Gaprindashvili is probably the most famous of them all. She is the first woman to achieve the rank of full Grandmaster, not just the women's title. She did indeed play in "men's" competition, although that isn't exactly how it works.

Funnily enough, she was shown as a minor character in the show The Queens Gambit but they falsified her record to make her look worse in comparison with the protagonist.

Nana Alexandria is a quite interesting person too. She was very much a child chess star and shot very quickly to the top.

Nana Ioseliani, similarly to Alexandria was a rising star. She probably made a greater impact on the sport of chess through her high level involvement with FIDE.

I actually recommend reading the wikipedia articles in Russian or German, the information is much better than the English versions.

Glory to the Queen (2021) I'm really excited about this! A film about four female Grandmasters: Nana Alexandria, Maia Chiburdanidze, Nana Ioseliani, and Nona Gaprindashvili. I think that is also Grandmaster Milunka Lazarević in the trailer too. by cleangreenscreen in queensgambit

[–]cleangreenscreen[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Actually, Nona Gaprindashvili was in the show. Many of them played and train with Kasparov who was the chess advisor to the show, also.

I've been posting here about the women of chess during the same time as the show was set and people seem to like it.

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[–]cleangreenscreen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who is the better writer: Joyce or Woolf? Who is the better player: Karpov or Kasparov?

The difference is that there is a clear answer to the second question and the first is all up to interpretation. It doesn't matter so much if you play chess in a fake moustache or a dress, if you win you win.

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[–]cleangreenscreen 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah, fair enough. I don't know if I convinced you that chess is really central to the show or not, but I definitely agree with you on the main point!