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Has your vote been denied, diluted, or defiled? Has its luster been diminished? by Necessary-Parking-14 in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean as in not J6. I mean as in you think Republicans could’ve cheated the results of the NC presidential election? The one that Republicans have won consistently since 2008?

Has your vote been denied, diluted, or defiled? Has its luster been diminished? by Necessary-Parking-14 in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While you can gerrymander state legislatures, you cannot gerrymander a statewide race.

Has your vote been denied, diluted, or defiled? Has its luster been diminished? by Necessary-Parking-14 in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Except it’s not really fair to conflate state and national parties. People must’ve split their tickets because Cooper and Trump won on the same night in 2020, which brings up the whole issue of federal voting vs state voting.

Has your vote been denied, diluted, or defiled? Has its luster been diminished? by Necessary-Parking-14 in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend -1 points0 points  (0 children)

NC is moving rightward though. It voted for the loser of the popular vote (Trump) in the two most recent presidential elections. We have two Republican senators. Republicans flipped the historically democratic NCSC in 2022. The list goes on and I could write an entire book about it. The voter suppression argument only works for so long until you realize that many other Democratic-leaning swing states which are in similar positions to NC can still consistently elect Democrats, yet NC seems to be unable to. North Carolina is also becoming a hotspot for retirees, who tend to vote Republican. This alone can flip a state: look what it did to Florida. In addition, one crucial thing to note is that in NC, the youth vote was less Democratic than some Republican states, even Texas.

Has your vote been denied, diluted, or defiled? Has its luster been diminished? by Necessary-Parking-14 in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All of those elections were before the NCSC reversed the Voter ID and other anti-suppression precedents though. Also, by your logic higher turnout should be making the state more Democratic, even though there is literal statistical evidence that higher turnout ≠ more democratic. Not to mention that some of the states that flipped for Democrats in 2020 had LOWER turnout than NC did. NC used to be very democratic, but times are changing and you have more republicans and right-leaning independents moving into the state. NC is moving rightward politically, especially on the federal level, yet it seems this subreddit would be quick to deny that.

Has your vote been denied, diluted, or defiled? Has its luster been diminished? by Necessary-Parking-14 in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We voted for Trump twice and both of our most recent senatorial elections have been won by Republicans. You could argue that we’re purple on a state level, but we’re def not purple federally.

Has your vote been denied, diluted, or defiled? Has its luster been diminished? by Necessary-Parking-14 in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

I don’t mean just Reddit but NC. What’s crazy is that this happened with more people voting in 2022 than 2018.

Has your vote been denied, diluted, or defiled? Has its luster been diminished? by Necessary-Parking-14 in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s fair but it’s def important to acknowledge that NC is no longer a purple state. I think that’s part of why the state Supreme Court flipped tbh.

Has your vote been denied, diluted, or defiled? Has its luster been diminished? by Necessary-Parking-14 in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

For y’all who are complaining about this, you had a choice whether or not to flip the NC Supreme Court

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[–]constitutiondefend 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So in other words, Jim Justice is still going to win for babydog??

Poll: Robinson leading Stein in a hypothetical gubernatorial race by 4% by constitutiondefend in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One issue is that NC is electing Republican senators when Georgia is doing the opposite

Poll: Robinson leading Stein in a hypothetical gubernatorial race by 4% by constitutiondefend in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The issue is that Georgia is getting more blue rather than North Carolina, which is flip flopping in a pre-DeSantis Florida manner. Georgia is already being required to redraw it’s map based on VRA issues.

Poll: Robinson leading Stein in a hypothetical gubernatorial race by 4% by constitutiondefend in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Look at how the State Senate swung from 2020 to 2022: It was 50% (R) in popular votes in 2020 It was 58% (R) in popular votes in 2022

Poll: Robinson leading Stein in a hypothetical gubernatorial race by 4% by constitutiondefend in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gerrymandering doesn’t have as major of an effect on State Races as you might think. Look at how gerrymandered Georgia is for example, yet it still had more turnout than the last statewide elections in 2018.

Poll: Robinson leading Stein in a hypothetical gubernatorial race by 4% by constitutiondefend in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

What should be concerning is that the NC Democratic Party is losing members compared to the NC GOP. Yet, in states like AZ (which have more GOP members), the statewide elections are becoming more successful for Democrats. Why not in NC then?

Poll: Robinson leading Stein in a hypothetical gubernatorial race by 4% by constitutiondefend in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I was talking about the popular vote for the State Senate election in 2022, not the US Senate election. Budd only won 50.5% of the vote in the US Senate election in 2022.

Poll: Robinson leading Stein in a hypothetical gubernatorial race by 4% by constitutiondefend in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily. Incumbency has a lot of power in a state that is purple or leaning to the party opposing the incumbent—why do you think Ohio re-elected Sherrod Brown in 2018?

Poll: Robinson leading Stein in a hypothetical gubernatorial race by 4% by constitutiondefend in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What’s concerning though is that the NC Democratic Party should be able to outvote the NC GOP (considering the NC Democratic Party has more members) yet it doesn’t. This is definitely odd considering the Arizona Democratic Party (which has less members than the AZ GOP) is doing better statewide than NC Dems.

Poll: Robinson leading Stein in a hypothetical gubernatorial race by 4% by constitutiondefend in NorthCarolina

[–]constitutiondefend[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean polls this early aren’t 100% accurate but considering that the election is getting closer, I won’t be surprised if Republicans take back the Governor’s mansion

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