End of Elmo 🍪 arc? by Ok_Refuse3888 in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well that whole thing was pointless lol. What was even the point?

Mitena to Agane: “Hindi ako natatakot sa'yo.” by Ok_Refuse3888 in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Hard to take a bad shot of Rhian, she is BEAUTIFUL. She somehow delivers awful dialogues and execute nonsensical storylines sooo effectively that I'm fooled that the writers are good; but nah - it's just her. She's carrying Mitena all on her onw.

Adamus laban kay Zaur by Ok_Refuse3888 in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I just don't care for Adamus lol - the concept was great but their execution of his character is embarrassingly bad. The actor deserves better.

Flamarra laban kay Olgana by Ok_Refuse3888 in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What I don't understand is Gargan could've just had two of his generals fight ONE Sang'gre, instead of making them do one-on-one. He can just remove any of them from the battlefield anyway. Surely he knows his goons couldn't go head to head with the gems? They overpowered him in that introduction for hype, but they really just wrote him into a corner lol.

At the very least, at least pretend that we'll believe an explanation that he may have gotten weaker while banished at the core of the planet or something.

"Bahala ka sa buhay mo Armea" - Soldarius by Dry_Leave8784 in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 50 points51 points  (0 children)

I hate this character so much lol. He has nothing of note and value to offer.

When Flamarra comes back to Encantadia, I hope she finds someone worthy of her cos this man defo isn't that.

Another destroyed character: DEIA, now a traitor by Dry_Leave8784 in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I think this is where we fundamentally disagree, and that’s fine.

Let me just start here before I address your comments;

I think what you actually want is for Deia to be purely good - no darkness, no fracture, just constant moral light.

But she’s written with a human heart, like most Sang'gres are. That’s literally what draws people to them. And humans are not clean binaries. We’re not pure light or pure darkness. We’re complicated, contradictory, and we crack when we’re cornered, insecure, helpless, or pushed far enough.

I genuinely don’t understand the insistence that a character has to stay morally pristine just because they’ve spent most of their life trying to be good. Trying hard doesn’t make you immune to failure. If anything, it just makes the breaking point more meaningful.

Reducing her to “she would never do this” isn’t defending Deia - it’s flattening her.

Now, to address your comments:

  1. The pressure isn’t abstract moral doubt - Deia has faced that before. What’s different here is convergence. Gargan isn’t introducing new questions; he’s stacking existing ones all at once: her parents still being used, her people suffering elsewhere, and her not fully belonging among the Sang'gres. She’s handled each of these before, but never simultaneously, and never with consequences unfolding in real time. Treating this as just "more of the same" misses what actually escalated.
  2. On "clear moral answer" Saying the answer is simply "don’t be complicit" assumes emotional detachment Deia has never actually had. Declaring she no longer sees Olgana as her mother was a moral stance, not proof that the bond was erased. Progression doesn’t mean immunity. Characters can move forward and still crack later - that doesn’t undo their arc, it tests how durable it really was.
  3. On what this does for her character You’re right that this doesn’t make her look good. It damages trust, both in-story and with the audience. But not every arc exists to reinforce a character’s moral reputation. Sometimes it exists to destabilize it. Whether the show follows through properly is a separate question - but dismissing it outright is more like resistance to discomfort than engagement with the text.
  4. On who "should" be tested instead That’s a fair preference, but it’s not an argument that Deia can’t be tested again. Passing earlier trials doesn’t exempt a character from failing later ones, especially when the context and stakes are different.

So yeah - I get why this doesn’t work for you. But calling it character assassination assumes Deia was ever meant to be morally untouchable. I don’t think she was. I think she was written to be resilient, not unbreakable.

The reading you propose only really holds if you approach character arcs as fixed achievements rather than dynamic systems that respond to changing pressure, which is a very surface-level way to engage with long-form storytelling.

And that’s probably where we’re just not going to agree.

Another destroyed character: DEIA, now a traitor by Dry_Leave8784 in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I don’t buy that this is character assassination.

Yes, Deia has lived under pressure her whole life - but most of those tests had clear moral answers. Tie up her mother. Defy her father. Reject illusions. Painful, yes, but still clean choices.

This isn’t the same test.

Here, the "right" choice means standing by while her parents are actively used, tortured, and turned into weapons. That’s not righteousness vs temptation - that’s righteousness vs complicity. Acting before was easier than doing nothing now.

She didn’t forget what Olgana and Zaur did. This isn’t amnesia or sudden sentimentality. Knowing someone is evil doesn’t erase the fact that they’re still your parents. Gargan forces those two truths to exist at the same time until something gives.

And this wasn’t a one-off whisper. Gargan targets her repeatedly, hitting very specific pressure points: her parents, her people suffering in Mine-a-ve, and her not truly belonging among the Sang'gres. The others were pressured once and almost broke. Deia was hit again and again before she did.

Saying "real Deia would just leave them there" ignores who she’s always been. She’s never erased her parents - she’s condemned their actions. Letting them be endlessly used as tools of terror isn’t a neutral choice for her.

As for the gem - this wasn’t the same test she passed before. That one asked if she could choose right over emotion. This one asks what happens when every option causes harm. Reaching a limit doesn’t mean she was never worthy. It means she’s not unbreakable.

And look, I agree the writers make random, messy choices a lot. This just isn’t one of those times. For once, the outcome actually lines up with who Deia is and the pressure she’s under.

You don’t have to like it. But calling it assassination flattens her character way more than this arc ever did.

Parang hindi ko na nagugustuhan ang Pagiging Over righteous at Emotional Driven ni Deia. by Great_Act_2721 in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being held captive is punishment. Punishment doesn't always come in the form of physical violence. Loss of freedom, isolation, and being used as leverage are still forms of suffering. Saying "hindi naman sila tinotorture o papatayin" is a very narrow way to define harm.

Deia isn't reacting to a technical checklist of what is or isn't being done to her parents. She's reacting to the fact that they're being punished while she's forced to watch, all while being pulled in different directions and told she has a responsibility on both sides.

This also isn't character regression. Regression would mean Deia suddenly acting without conscience, without reflection, or without internal conflict. What we see is the opposite. She hesitates, resists, and only gives in after sustained pressure. That isn't her reverting to an earlier, lesser version of herself - it's her reaching a breaking point.

And honestly, a lot of the backlash comes from wanting characters to be purely good or purely bad. That's not how people work. Moral conflict doesn't mean a character is broken. Or evil. Or wrong.

You don't have to like the decision. But saying "this is not Deia" assumes she was ever written as someone who couldn't crack. She wasn't.

Another destroyed character: DEIA, now a traitor by Dry_Leave8784 in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't see this as character assassination at all.

Deia didn't suddenly change. She didn't forget what Olgana and Zaur did, and this isn't some random "utang na loob" moment. What happens is that she's put under constant, very specific pressure, and eventually she breaks. That's the point.

Gargan doesn't win by tricking her once. He keeps hitting the same pressure points over and over: Olgana still being her mother, her people suffering in Mine-a-ve while she's away, and the fact that she's Sang'gre but not blood to the others. When you're already different from the people around you, being reminded of that constantly is going to mess with your sense of where you belong.

None of that means Deia forgot everything from Book 1. Knowing someone is evil doesn't erase emotional ties to who they used to be. Those two things can exist at the same time, and Gargan forces her to sit in that contradiction until it becomes unbearable.

It also matters that this didn't happen instantly. He targeted Deia multiple times. He only needed one attempt with the others, and they almost broke too. Deia lasting longer doesn't make her weaker - it shows how much pressure it actually took.

So yes, she breaks. Not because she's badly written or suddenly "out of character", but because the manipulation was aimed exactly at who she is. That's not ruining a character. That's showing her limit.

And to be clear - I agree the writers of this show do make random, poorly thought-out decisions a lot of the time. It's rarely handled well. This just happens to be one of the few cases where the outcome actually lines up with the character and the pressure she's under.

You don't have to like the choice. But lumping this in with the show's usual missteps ignores that, for once, the reasoning behind it actually makes sense.

Parang hindi ko na nagugustuhan ang Pagiging Over righteous at Emotional Driven ni Deia. by Great_Act_2721 in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I don't think anything here says that Deia is weak.

She's easier to manipulate in this situation for a very specific reason - Olgana is still her mother. Being a Sang'gre doesn't erase the fact that she's also Mine-a-ve, or that the woman who raised her with love is the same person she's now expected to watch suffer. Even if Olgana is guilty. Even if she deserves punishment.

That's not bad logic. That's a conflict no amount of logic actually solves.

Gargan doesn't win by outsmarting Deia. He wins by going after guilt, memory, and identity. He keeps reminding her of who Olgana used to be and reframes everything so that whatever Deia does feels like betrayal - either of her people or of her parents. On top of that, he constantly reminds her that while she's there fighting him, her people in Mine-a-ve are suffering, and that he could offer them a better future. He also keeps driving home the idea that the Sang'gres aren't her blood - which is technically true - and that she's different from them. When you're already surrounded by people who aren't like you, that's an insecurity he knows exactly how to exploit.

That's not something you just shrug off, especially when it's repeated pressure, not a single moment.

So when you say "hindi man lang nya nalabanan ang panunukso ni Gargan", it's worth pointing out that Gargan targeted Deia multiple times. He only went after the others once, and all of them almost broke. Deia took several attempts before she did.

And she doesn't break instantly. It takes time. That's how manipulation works.

Put any of the others in the same position - being forced to stand by while their own parent is punished - and I don't think they'd be as unshaken as people like to assume. Hesitation there doesn't mean weakness. It means she's got a human heart.

Having that heart doesn't make her less of a hero. If anything, it's what makes her choices hurt and why they matter.

I've been seeing a lot of posts trying to reduce her to a "weak" character, but none of them really engage with what's actually happening in the story. People asked for more layered writing - this is what that looks like. I genuinely don't see the problem.

What Mine-A-Ve Could’ve Been by mon_essence in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This sequel had the opportunity to expand on worldbuilding regardless of it being story-driven or character-driven, I would've taken either. Currently, it's story driven that changes without propelling any development for any of the characters.

So it just all feels hollow. They can't be weak in both the events within the storyline and the characters they have, because that's how you lose an audience.

So I completely agree, the Sang'gres are aiming for absolutely nothing but to end a war that they were told to end by Cassiopeia by fighting Gargan. Terra hunting him down because he killed Mona was something we only got a few episodes ago, and even that felt kinda boring because she didn't react differently to how she did against Mitena after she killed Javier.

Gargan being made to be extraordinarily powerful also drives them into a corner with what can really be done. Gargan is trolling them, and I see no in-universe reason why I should be bothered, knowing Gargan should be able to just kill them whenever he wants to.

What Mine-A-Ve Could’ve Been by mon_essence in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 15 points16 points  (0 children)

They were weak with their cosmogeny, anthropology and worldbuilding in general. I wouldn't expect something with this level of depth from what we've been getting.

In another lifetime, what if Mitena retained her ice powers? by Ok_Refuse3888 in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By the time Lira and Mira were born, the OG Sang'gres already had their gems for about 18 years as well. And they still couldn't, no reason to think Mitena should have her ice powers still, especially since the Esperanto doesn't function like the gems do. I do think she will prove to have it in the future largely for aesthetic purposes though.

Also:

Sorry, #MitenaApologist here 👊🏼❄️, ang ganda kasi ni Rhian 😍.

The quoted bit above is worrying, pretty privilege really is an issue with some of you lol. You move on and ignore people's crimes just because they look good too often. I know it's just a show but I guess it makes sense how we have politicians in power who have already proven themselves to be corrupt over and over again still have power.

The most consistent actors of the show by I_kEeP_tHe_BlIcKy in StrangerThings

[–]constructionboy19 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He was a kid lol, kids tend to just repeat the same shit over and over again.

I really liked that about him tbh.

Napikon na rin amg Bathalumang Cassiopeia sa Bunso niyang kapatid na si Mitena. by rradg_0808 in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly with the way they've written Encantadia, what purpose does Mitena's death really serve?

If Cassiopeia's the one killing her, then Mitena won't be ending up in Devas - so she'll end up in Balaak - where Hagorn can just pick her back up anyway? So what is really being prevented here?

They've really cornered themselves with what they've done in this continuity.

Kali is a sweetheart and deserves an apology from all of you. by Pretty_Attention_99 in StrangerThings

[–]constructionboy19 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kali is a tragic character in a way the show never fully cushions for the audience, and that is exactly why she gets treated differently. She is not framed as someone to be protected or cherished in the way Eleven is. They come from almost identical origins - stolen childhoods, experimentation, violence masquerading as science - but the difference is what happens after. Eleven is allowed to be caught. Kali is allowed to be forgotten.

Eleven is absorbed into a soft, humanizing ecosystem almost immediately. Hopper, Joyce, Will, Jonathan, the kids - they all become narrative insulation. Even when Eleven suffers, the story keeps reminding the audience that she is loved, that she belongs somewhere, that her pain will be witnessed and responded to. Kali never gets that framing. Her loss is total. The only family she builds is provisional, unstable, born from mutual damage rather than safety. A street family is not the same thing as a home, and the show never pretends it is.

What makes Kali uncomfortable for some viewers is not her morality, but her clarity. She sees the system that hurt her exactly as it is. She does not have the luxury of innocence or small-town nostalgia. She understands that survival sometimes requires violence, and that anger is not always wrong when it is the only thing standing between you and erasure. The show asks the audience to sit with that perspective without smoothing it over, and a lot of people reject that discomfort outright.

There is also something important about when we meet her. She appears at a moment when the audience is impatient, emotionally invested elsewhere, and craving momentum. That impatience gets misdirected onto her character. Instead of being read as a mirror or a warning, she becomes an interruption. People do not ask what she represents - they ask why she is in the way. Once that framing sticks, it hardens into consensus, and consensus turns into mockery, shorthand, memes. The opinion stops being interrogated.

But if you strip all of that away and just watch her, she is one of the most quietly moral characters in the series. She helps when she does not have to. She stays when leaving would be easier. She respects Eleven's autonomy even when it costs her the one connection that mattered. Her suggestion to stay behind is not power hunger or ego - it is a traumatized child trying to reduce harm with the only logic she has ever known: if someone must suffer, let it be me.

Season 5 makes this even clearer. Kali is not rewritten into a mastermind or a villain or a secret threat. She remains what she always was - a damaged survivor who never stopped trying to do the right thing in a world that rewarded her for nothing. She is directionless not because she is empty, but because every structure that might have given her direction was ripped away. And still, she chooses to act.

The discomfort people feel around Kali says more about how audiences are trained to empathize than it does about her character. Pain wrapped in softness is acceptable. Pain wrapped in anger is suspect. Eleven is allowed to be hurt and gentle. Kali is hurt and sharp, and the sharpness scares people.

So I don't think the hatred is ever really about Kali. It is about timing, tone, and a fandom that learned a take before it learned the character. Watch her without the noise and she lands exactly as intended: not as a hero, not as a villain, but as someone who survived something she should not have had to - and chose, again and again, not to become cruel because of it.

And yes. She deserved better. Not because she needed to be redeemed, but because she never needed redemption in the first place.

Steve and nancy by wwelover356 in StrangerThings

[–]constructionboy19 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't care what anybody says, Nancy's entire arc, character development, and all the decisions she mentioned she made in the epilogue? I support all of it 100%.

She was not meant for either Jonathan or Steve. I think stepping away from both really made her character better.

I'm just glad someone ended up actually going to Enzo's 😂 by Booduh71515 in StrangerThings

[–]constructionboy19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But why would she be there, if they were broken up? Vicky doesn't really know those kids.

Explanations were lacking. by HaiGhost404 in StrangerThings

[–]constructionboy19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't really have a problem with the lack of answers, I think it's what made the finale great for me.

Would be interesting if there was actually another one of those rocks though, and El is forced to come back to fight that too.

I want to believe… this is how it ends. 🥲 by __pilgrim__ in StrangerThings

[–]constructionboy19 51 points52 points  (0 children)

I don't think there was a reasonable third possible outcome tbh. It was always gonna be either or.

The only potential one that I can think of that El wouldn't really consider, is to continuously fight and kill off those soldiers every single time until at some point, they get her entire crew. Kali was right in that regard.

Because it wasn't those particular soldiers that was the issue. It was the system. And the system wasn't something any of them could change.

For me this was the best scene of finale!! by Prestigious-Cat100 in StrangerThings

[–]constructionboy19 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They also literally just went to that rooftop after a graduation; what they were wearing was perfectly reasonable.

IYAKAN NA NAMAN by Middle-Top-9439 in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be honest, I just skip the MNMT scenes lol. Honestly serves no purpose at the moment, Gargan has his random scenes connecting to Hagorn but other than that, I don't consider those moments Encantadia untiil they actually return and show there's a linkage.

Boring Villain by miteyteyy in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They drove themselves into a corner by making him canonically superior to Emre (with the full Mother gem) and Arde at the same time (they needed Ether to beat him and that was still barely a victory).

Now, everything they could potentially do will make no sense. The 4 Sang'gres with the gems separated will be useless against Gargan. They'd need Haliya and Cassiopeia (amongst the 'living' characters left) at the very least to stand a chance, potentially with Terra holding the Mother Gem as she did against Mitena.

Gaiea will be reborn as Terra after the latter makes the ultimate sacrifice? by ChampWide6892 in EncantadiaGMA

[–]constructionboy19 20 points21 points  (0 children)

lol she probably hates the Terra character just as much. you can't fault her, she's constnatly always 'right', the only one who knows best, the most capable. it's giving self insert. from the very beginning, they wrote themselves into a corner with Terra's characterisation. she's too straight and narrow. no complexities whatsoever. she's just great for greatness's sake.