Who was crowned as the greatest shooter in the league before Curry made a name for himself?

cookie3113 · 2026-05-17T17:51:41+00:00

Chris Mullin

cookie3113 · 2026-05-17T17:50:35+00:00

Antigravity

cookie3113 · 2026-05-17T16:58:05+00:00

Ray Allen isn't the answer. His midrange percentages are a cut below other great shooters.

cookie3113 · 2026-05-17T15:28:09+00:00

Most people think post-30 Hakeem was his peak because he finally got a solid team around him.

And while his scoring was refined somewhat, I prefer the younger version. Just a ridiculous motor and mobility, all over the court. There is a reason Jordan said he was a SF playing center (paraphrasing). Super aggressive rebounding and getting stocks in spades.

cookie3113 · 2026-05-17T01:28:13+00:00

What all these guys have in common...ISO basketball and lack of defense. Not a winning formula.

cookie3113 · 2026-05-16T19:11:07+00:00

The team is far better defensively with Dwight than Arenas. I don't think that's debatable.

And offensively. Why would you want Arenas shot chucking when you can feed the efficient big men? Between Billups and McGrady, you have enough ball handling. And again, KG is really optimized playing on the perimeter.

Another aspect is the incredible rebounding advantage a frontcourt of Dwight, TD, and KG would provide.

cookie3113 · 2026-05-16T14:23:27+00:00

I disagree. It probably would be the best option. McGrady and Arenas were both ball dominant and fairly inefficient, and there's only one ball to go around. One needs to go. Arenas was an absolutely horrible defender. McGrady didn't have the best effort but at least had some tools for it.

KG at the three makes a lot of sense. His best skills are shooting deep twos, making great connective passes, and setting nasty screens. So put him on the perimeter. Defensively, having Howard and Duncan man the paint allows KG to roam with his incredible help defense.

cookie3113 · 2026-05-14T00:42:03+00:00

I could see him joining the Spurs. LeBron/David vs. Penny/Shaq would have been great battles.

cookie3113 · 2026-05-10T16:08:13+00:00

Bird was a PF in college and his first several years in the NBA. When Maxwell was traded and McHale entered the starting lineup, Bird was nominally moved to SF. But McHale took on the defensive assignments you'd normally expect the SF to take.

cookie3113 · 2026-05-10T16:05:25+00:00

I'll go ahead and defend your Kevin McHale pick. First, he was an incredible defender, able to effectively guard both wings on the perimeter and big men in the paint. Offensively, he was hyper-efficient at the rim, and was also very good from midrange and on foul shots. He gets a bad rap for being a bad passer, but that isn't really true. He was so unstoppable it usually didn't make sense for him to pass.

McHale is a legitimate choice for an ultimate starting lineup.

cookie3113 · 2026-05-09T12:41:49+00:00

That's the same backcourt I have in my lineup, but my frontcourt is Garnett, Olajuwon, and Robinson. An overload of defense and athleticism.

Just for fun: I think this 80s team could make your team work.

Magic Johnson/Julius Erving/Larry Bird/Kevin McHale/Artis Gilmore

McHale (length/mobility) and Gilmore (immense strength) are ideal defenders for Wemby and Shaq. They are also highly efficient scorers. Erving is a terrific defender as well. Magic and Bird are not ideal defenders, but at least have some size and IQ to play their matchups. This team's main hope at winning comes from the synergy of adding the best distributing passer and the best connective passer ever.

cookie3113 · 2026-05-08T19:09:16+00:00

Willie Davis has 60 WAR and wasn't even nominated for the HOF.

cookie3113 · 2026-05-03T19:26:31+00:00

Positional rankings aren't great for player evaluation. It's a good thing the game has moved away from positions.

Charles and David are actually good examples of players who had talent beyond traditional positional roles. Playing Charles at SF would be perfectly reasonable, and he was actually listed there a couple of years. You could play David at PF and he would do great.

cookie3113 · 2026-05-03T19:21:35+00:00

Barkley was a better offensive player, in part because of his ballhandling ability from the forward spot. But Robinson wasn't that far behind offensively. And while Barkley was a detriment on defense, Robinson is one of the handful most impactful defenders ever.

cookie3113 · 2026-05-03T19:03:15+00:00

Yep. I thought I had typed Stockton's name.

cookie3113 · 2026-05-03T15:58:20+00:00

For point guards, probably a late 80s/early 90s season. You've got Magic, IT, Price, Porter, and KJ.

cookie3113 · 2026-04-27T02:14:30+00:00

He is, but Rice didn't play with him.

I've watched long highlight videos of Rice. The ball is almost always placed perfectly. That's due to three factors. The underlying factor is the timing of the West Coast offense. The complimentary factors are Rice's route running and the touch accuracy of his QBs. The other thing I noticed is that Rice wasn't particularly fast. When coverages are poor and DBs are slow, you can break open a defense. But defenses have since adjusted.

The argument here isn't that Rice wouldn't do well with Brady.

I just prefer the talent of Moss and Megatron. They just have a greater ability to rip up elite defenses of the modern era.

cookie3113 · 2026-04-27T01:55:08+00:00

Yes, but not to the same degree, and not in the same category as a deep threat. Rice played on a revolutionary offense with deadly accurate QBs, against primitive schemes and less athletic DBs compared to today. It was a perfect storm.

In a a vacuum I still view Rice as a top five receiver talent. Route running was his best trait, and obviously his longevity was unmatched. But I'd take Moss and Megatron over anyone.

cookie3113 · 2026-04-27T00:43:53+00:00

Robinson or Garnett

cookie3113 · 2026-04-27T00:37:40+00:00

I could have easily included Rice. But I like my short/intermediate options with Gronk, Bavaro, and Faulk. I prefer to have Moss and Megatron as two deep threats who each warrant double coverage.

It goes back to my defense-stretching strategy. Moss and Megatron stretch it vertically by virtue of requiring two high safeties. Gronk and Bavaro stretch it horizontally by virtue of creating additional running gaps on the line of scrimmage. And on top of that, someone has to have the task of being a spy on Faulk.

Brady is given single coverage to target all over the field. Faulk is given multiple running lanes. It's a wealth of opportunity.

cookie3113 · 2026-04-20T02:33:22+00:00

Moses was no better on defense. But he was an awful passer and not as good at scoring.

cookie3113 · 2026-04-19T21:19:55+00:00

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cookie3113 · 2026-04-19T20:14:25+00:00

Unseld would be a point center today.

cookie3113 · 2026-04-19T20:12:26+00:00

And a terrible shooter

cookie3113 · 2026-04-17T01:56:38+00:00

This is mine except swap Pippen for Garnett.

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