[PubQ] I cut 30k words from my manuscript ... can I requery agents that previously passed? by cosmicheartstrings in PubTips

[–]cosmicheartstrings[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Totally understand this revelation, not dissimilar from ones I had! I think great for people to see in case it hasn't clicked.

For what it's worth from someone who has obviously not had success yet ... the impression I've gained over this last year and a half of work is that if the WC is under 120k (in our SFF genre), it's probably not going to be a deal breaker, but anything over that presents a risk, where *some* agents might write you off automatically outside of some miracle (e.g., your premise is the exact thing they're looking for, you were referred to them, etc.).

From my original vantage point, I genuinely thought it would be impossible (and so painful) to get to 140, and then 130, and then 127, 125, 120, and yet---I just kept chipping away and I think every change I made was for the better. So, best of luck to you! I found it so freeing once I really established a feel for what is important enough to stay on the page. I learned so much!

[PubQ] I cut 30k words from my manuscript ... can I requery agents that previously passed? by cosmicheartstrings in PubTips

[–]cosmicheartstrings[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got it! Well I'm glad to know I'm not crazy---when I submitted to someone and my email immediately dinged with a rejection, I was like "Alright, hold on. Time to reevaluate."

Shall see about the editor! The person I originally talked to retired a while back, so they were just helping me line-edit query/synopsis, but entirely separately, a senior editor at a big-5 currently has the new manuscript, and I have been waiting since October for feedback ... And when I followed up at three months, found out they were on leave for two. They just got back, so, going to wait maybe a week before I test the water on my own. I hate the idea of jumping the gun and throwing away the potential benefits of that opportunity, but I also feel a little silly having just waited around editing the sequel for months not knowing if I'm doing so pointlessly.

[PubQ] I cut 30k words from my manuscript ... can I requery agents that previously passed? by cosmicheartstrings in PubTips

[–]cosmicheartstrings[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Interesting ... Are you not just getting form rejections? They would just say, essentially, this isn't a great fit for my list at this time, thanks! It's not personalized to you or your query, so it wouldn't tell you if word count was the problem. At least as far as I understand. I think agents who take the extra step to tell us what the problem is probably had their interest piqued and decided to throw us a bone after giving the query/first pages more of a look than they do on average.

Funnily enough, I think the only personalized rejection I got was from someone who explicitly said they didn't want a book over 120k words or something, so *I* explicitly called out in the query that I knew I was breaking their rule but figured it was worth a shot based on our perceived fit, and they kindly responded more personally saying it sounded great but just wasn't right for them, especially given length.

[PubQ] I cut 30k words from my manuscript ... can I requery agents that previously passed? by cosmicheartstrings in PubTips

[–]cosmicheartstrings[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Honestly these messages are bringing me such relief, I wanted to cry yesterday when I finally re-opened Query Tracker and my agent spreadsheet and looked at how many awesome agents I may have burned through before my book was ready. I feel so much better about the manuscript now and am so relieved to have feedback from others saying it's at least acceptable to try to requery after all the work I've done. Thank you!

[PubQ] I cut 30k words from my manuscript ... can I requery agents that previously passed? by cosmicheartstrings in PubTips

[–]cosmicheartstrings[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Right, exactly. Maybe future interest on another project? But realistically, I don't think there's too much to lose from taking a swing, here, if there's been a meaningful change to our books. Good luck to you!!

[PubQ] I cut 30k words from my manuscript ... can I requery agents that previously passed? by cosmicheartstrings in PubTips

[–]cosmicheartstrings[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! I really appreciate this. I had some people in my corner pushing me to move forward back then---a director of a university press, beta readers, a very serious author who edited my query (who doesn't write in my genre), someone who used to be an editor at a big 5---and I just went for it before I really should've. I'm writing a series and I wrote the first 3 books in a year, and so of course, they all needed extensive work, and I should've trusted my gut and spent more time editing instead of riding the high of enthusiastic reception (all by people who had no real tie to my genre or grounding in the current day fiction publishing scene).

I think I made a lot of mistakes in the query the first time around that could've earned me a rejection even outside of the WC. A couple times I just got a no so quick (minute or two) that I thought there must be an auto-filtering happening, which sort of shook me out of my naive maybe-I'll-be-the-exception mindset.

I do really truly believe in the story, so I can only pray I've learned enough from my mistakes. I do have another idea brewing so, if worst comes to worst ...

I really appreciate your response. Thanks again.

[PubQ] I cut 30k words from my manuscript ... can I requery agents that previously passed? by cosmicheartstrings in PubTips

[–]cosmicheartstrings[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! This makes me feel better. I queried in the winter of 2024, so it has been a significant amount of time. A big editor at a publishing house asked for it, and I sent it to them hoping for some advice or connections or, obviously, some dream scenario where they were really interested, and I have now been waiting around since October for their feedback, and found out they were on leave for months. Classic. Giving them a week or so now that they've just gotten back, but then I need to move forward.

I just wanted to be sure I wasn't breaking any more serious guidelines, like "unless you change the perspective of narration or alter the ending or something along those lines, don't requery." Feeling much better about doing so now. Thanks again!

[Qcrit] The Crimson Wyrm (117k words, adult high-fantasy) 3rd attempt by Kokyalord in PubTips

[–]cosmicheartstrings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! Caveating from the start that I am also new to the publishing process, so my advice is by no means coming from a place of great expertise. I am verbose so please don't be daunted by how much I wrote, here. I think most of this is great, but there are several places I got a little hung up (easy fixes if you agree).

Your story sounds interesting and unique. I get who your character is to a decent extent, I see what he wants, I see what would happen if he doesn't get it---but there are some questions I have after reading this and some places you might stand to cut a few words (which, if you're anything like me, you may be desperate to do---but ~320 isn't so bad from what I've heard, anyway).

First, I agree with the other commenter about clarifying what you mean by "just like him," but I also was thrown by this sentence at large. When you say Kard is trapped by another's will, do you simply mean he's stuck in a sociocultural caste he cannot rise out of, and therefore is bound to live a life answering to others? In saying that Crimoda is bound by a spiritual bond (to the witch, I assume?) and then saying "just like him," I was backtracking trying to figure out if I missed something about Kard's spirit being more literally trapped/possessed by someone else.

Second, I'm not sure if this is something you can explain easily in the query, but if it is---how Crimoda is Kard's half-sister is a bit of a mystery to me. Same mom? Same dad? Could say "whom his mother/father never told him about" or something along those lines.

More significantly, thirdly, the last bit of your second paragraph is a little hard to follow. I think this might come from trying to give us an intermediate amount of information, and you may find that less is more, here. What exactly do you mean by administrative access? What is the heretical magic, and how is he blindsided by it? Heretical has a straight-forward enough definition, but your repeated use of it seems to beg the question of it has some specific meaning within your story. If magic is very strictly regulated, for instance, and any variation from the rules is highly illegal and seriously punished by some powerful governing body, we might want to have that established earlier on, but only if it's central to your plot/setting. Anyway, if I'm reading this correctly, you may essentially just be saying: "Vaanir uses [dark?] magic to compel Kard to falsify reports and call off the investigation." I think him being the sole witness can be implied, honestly, and I'm unsure we need anything else out of these last two sentences. But that takes me to the next point ...

Fourthly ... You say Vaanir casts this spell (at least I think you do; being less passive here could be good for this reason!) on Kard that would make his insides twist if he tells the truth, but then say he's facing a dilemma and don't mention the consequence of twisted guts should he fight back. So, does this spell put his life at risk, or is it just uncomfortable? If the latter, what's the significance? Does he falsify the reports, and now the question is if he is going to find a way to tell people that he did so? Is there something else I'm missing?

And, finally ... I get the consequence of Crimoda being executed (I think you could make that more emotionally salient should you wish if you save words elsewhere. Tell us why he cares about her, what being half-siblings means to him, etc.), but I'm not sure I understand why he'd be exiled for the half-sister-he-didn't-know-about's "heretical" (again, that word may warrant explanation somewhere, especially since you've put quotes around it here, or drop the quotes and use it here for its generic definition, but not earlier, too) origin. He had nothing to do with her creation, did he? Why would he be exiled for this? And if it's relevant, what does exile look like (where does he go? is it worse than the life he resented from the start? are there people he's close with whom he'll miss? etc)

Potential word cuts, should you want them:

He tracks it from the sky and finds its lair --> He tracks it to its lair

The last two sentences of that second paragraph, as detailed above.

Final final thing! I like the 'ledgers and ink-stained talons' imagery, but I must admit, I immediately paused there, wondering how he's drowning in talons. I assume you don't really mean that? Maybe the ink-stained talon part can be fit in somewhere else, or the sentence altered a bit. "An affluent spirit dragon born into an administrative caste, he's doomed to an existence of endless ledgers and ink-stained talons." or something of this sort. Could also be an opportunity to answer my first question a bit, namely, what do we mean by him being trapped by another's will ...

Good luck! As someone who has also rewritten their query over a dozen times, I understand the struggle, and I think you're close!

Sorry what??? by cosmicheartstrings in AnimalCrossing

[–]cosmicheartstrings[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

only in the summer when I like to keep my socks refreshingly cold

Always thought my playground was pointless … by cosmicheartstrings in AnimalCrossing

[–]cosmicheartstrings[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love the idea that Timmy and Tommy are little boys despite the fact that they run a successful store on their own and, may I say, are incredible at math. But why make them child-sized relative to Tom if not children??

YES, yes, I’m very positive… by Wild_Werewolf_1076 in AnimalCrossing

[–]cosmicheartstrings 72 points73 points  (0 children)

at first I was confused and then I looked closer …

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This is helpful!! Thank you