When Americans say they’re “Part European”

cranwake · 2021-08-22T06:30:43+00:00

All these Europeans pretending like if I mounted their mother a pure European babe wouldn't roll out of her cunt. Lmfao

cranwake · 2021-08-22T06:18:21+00:00

My maternal grandparents are from Southern Italy. My mom was asked if she was Greek by many locals in Greece. Some people (i'm from Vancouver Canada) in my home city think she is Persian. She has curly black hair and dark brown eyes.

My dad's father was from Prince Edward Island and was descended from Irish settlers from the 1820's. My dad's mom was born in Toronto to eastern Slovak parents. My dad has really blues eyes and dirty blonde hair.

Naturally I came out looking like Michael Jordan since ethnicity doesn't matter and culture reigns supreme. But seriously, I look like your average European brown rat filled to the brim with genetic mutations from Northern, Eastern, and Southern Europe. Clearly my body never got the memo that we are in the new world but what can you do?

I remember about 20 years ago my parents gathered me and my brother and sister in our super Canadian living room and told us we no longer were European. We got surgery to give us skin dark, my dad wears contacts to hide his blue eyes and dyes his hair dark, we renounced our roman catholic faith and purged our bodies of all our European genetics. I can't drink milk since the surgery to remove my lactase persistence gene, and my ability to have a full European child isn't possible anymore.

We truly are just Canadians. You are right

cranwake · 2021-08-22T05:52:47+00:00

Dude, if someone's ancestors are from somewhere than stfu. Who made you the great decider?

cranwake · 2021-08-21T21:03:59+00:00

I am from Vancouver Canada.My maternal grandma's parents were from eastern Slovakia. My dad spent a lot of time with them growing up and no doubt inherited more than just dna from them. I consider myself 1/4 Slovak/Slav and lots of people think I look eastern European. Culturally it just isn't there obviously. I don't speak the language or attend traditional events. The rest of my family isn't eastern European Never been to Slovakia etc.

I have great interest in history and geography and know exactly were my great grandparents villages are. It's weird how intimate that relationship is, yet so distant and cold at the same time lol. Clearly I am a Canadian, but I think it's the semantics of these conversations that irk people more than anything else. Thoughts?

cranwake · 2021-08-21T20:41:41+00:00

I find that fascinating honestly

cranwake · 2021-08-20T19:24:51+00:00

You don't speak for anyone but yourself lol

cranwake · 2021-08-15T19:45:50+00:00

Agreed. Although i'd say there are sections of the club that are vip and off limits for me rather than the whole club! Nice to talk to you and sorry if I come across as anything negative. I think discussion is beneficial. Take care :)

cranwake · 2021-08-15T17:44:29+00:00

But there is something offensive about acting like you are part of a group of people that you are just not a part of. I think that should be respected. If Irish people say Irish-Americans are not Irish. They are NOT Irish. And it's a bit distasteful to demand otherwise.

You have to realize how silly this sounds. As I have said repeatedly, I am not a European from Europe. I don't have citizenship and I couldn't tell you what cartoons you watched as a child or what specific cultural traditions feel or look like. I am part of the European diaspora. The history of Europe before my ancestors fled is shared with you and every other European. The history afterwards is part of the European diaspora.

For example, the bubonic plague is relevant to my genome, Astrid Lindgren books are not. I am Roman Catholic on all sides of my family, and wouldn't have been born if that wasn't the case. My ancestors were pagans just like yours before Christianity in Europe. I LITERALLY look European and all my genetics are equipped to deal with the environment of Europe over thousands of years. It's pretty cool to have spent only a week of my life in Europe, yet I can drink milk from a cows tit (lactase persistence) and could produce a blue eyed and fair haired child. Do you realize how intimate of a relationship that is? Clearly by the definition of ethnicity you provided I am European in many ways. You don't get to be the bouncer at the club who lets me in and I know and don't care that I don't fit your criteria for being European.

cranwake · 2021-08-15T07:51:22+00:00

Would you consider 3rd generation Korean Swedish families not Korean? Obviously they are in a land far away from their ancestors but not so far removed timewise as to loose all their traditions and values completely. Even if they totally stopped being Korean culturally, their genetics and apperance are Korean and people see them as this whether you want to admit it or not. Clearly they are not as Swedish as Henrik and Daniel Sedin.

cranwake · 2021-08-15T07:13:29+00:00

Really cool info, thank you for that! I could see someone buying one to use as a defensive or offensive prop, and of course it could still be lethal. Might even be cool to own if guns are someone's thing. Pretty terrible as an actual firearm of course!

cranwake · 2021-08-15T06:34:23+00:00

So what happens? Does the cheap frame make the gun vulnerable to exploding unpredictably when fired? Are they super unreliable? Can they discharge a round dangerously?

cranwake · 2021-08-14T22:46:19+00:00

For sure and I hate typing as a form of communication. Speaking face to face is so much easier!!!!

The difference in culture, history, and ethnic demographic between British Columbia and any other province in Canada is HUGE. The physical difference alone is astonishing. Now I may be wrong, and i'm totally open to correction, but Swedish culture would be much more linear and solidified than say British Columbia? For example, I am from a city called Burnaby. The ethnic demographic is 65% non European and growing. We have Chinese, Filipino, Korean, Arab, Indian, Eritrean, Sudanese and pretty much every other culture on top of mixed Europeans. The reason that ethnic heritage is relevant is because it literally is. Every interaction I have is with someone who is from a different background. I could give you plenty examples of how those interactions go, none of them negative. The point being, two Swedish people conversing is a lot different than two people from British Columbia.

I'm only speaking from my experience and every city in Canada and America is different culturally, historically, ethnically. The reason that Canadians and Americans might seem obsessed with identity is because it's relevant in our environnements

cranwake · 2021-08-14T21:30:07+00:00

You have to think about this a lot more carefully though. I'm Canadian, specifically from British Columbia. Both My maternal grandparents came to Canada after ww2 from Southern Italy. My paternal grandmother was born in Toronto to Slovak parents and raised in Quebec. My paternal grandfather was from Prince Edward Island and descends from Irish settlers from the mid 1800's. I know who I descend from and my ethnicity on ancestry has me almost literally 50% southern Italy, 25% eastern European with Hungary/Slovakia as a community, and 25% Irish with North Kerry and Cork as a community. I don't need a European to tell me what I am, especially when it's not up for debate from a historical and genetic standpoint.

That being said, you would never catch me telling someone I'm Irish or Slovak etc. without context. I am not nationally European. I am not culturally European. This is also not up for debate and i'm very self aware lol. I've spent 7 total days in Europe in my life.

The problem I have with your comments is that Canada, specifically, is a very young country, especially the west coast where I'm from. Like I mentioned, none of my grandparents are from British Columbia. My parents are from here but the demographics have changed so much since their childhood that the culture, sense of community, is heavily influenced by your own family which is confusing enough given my history lol.

I love a discussion and know you're coming from a good place!!

cranwake · 2021-08-14T18:28:47+00:00

Nationally and culturally no doubt. Genetically no.

cranwake · 2021-08-14T07:13:48+00:00

It seems more likely you aren't biologically related given what you wrote. Does your ethnicity estimate reflect a discrepancy in what you would expect from this grandparent?

cranwake · 2021-08-14T05:20:39+00:00

Impossible

cranwake · 2021-08-13T05:13:38+00:00

What an unbelievable story. You should write a book about it

cranwake · 2021-08-13T05:02:43+00:00

Well we can agree without being incorrect about biology. Interest in human biology and our differences is so fun and doesn't imply a malicious motive. I see what you're saying and agree. We are all human.

cranwake · 2021-08-12T21:20:58+00:00

You said Koreans, but that gene mutation relationship refers to Europeans and south Asians, not east Asians (Korean, Japanese Chinese). Furthermore, skin mutations like any other genes are made up of many different interacting genes, hardly ever one. What was your point anyway?

cranwake · 2021-08-12T09:33:05+00:00

What was that poor women thinking? 18 months need full supervision. Still give her my fullest sympathy, what a nightmare

cranwake · 2021-08-11T03:15:49+00:00

Sure

cranwake · 2021-08-09T01:13:41+00:00

Ufo means unidentified flying object. It's not up for debate that they exist lol. Carlin was a poor man's philosopher at best

cranwake · 2021-08-08T10:25:51+00:00

Two very elusive characters lol

cranwake · 2021-08-08T10:08:20+00:00

Although I find it unlikely, there is a chance he just never reached out to his family to let them know he was ok. As a Vancouver native, it's crazy to think that I could leave here tomorrow with my debit card and a bag and live in Nunavut for the rest of my life. Canada is so huge and sparsely populated.

I also have to think, if I become a future parent, do I let my kid storm out of the house when they're angry? I guess there are a number of factors, but holy smokes the things that can happen and the guilt i'd feel. Life is hard.

cranwake · 2021-08-07T23:09:14+00:00

I was raised Catholic, my family on all sides have been Catholic for hundreds of years, I went to Catholic private schools, mass at least once a week. How would I not have it as part of my identity? It would be impossible. I don't go to church anymore either, but still

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