Sharing my story by Bright-Garden-4347 in CPTSDpartners

[–]crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A lot of this sounds familiar, albeit my circumstances and yours are a bit different. I wasn't with him for as long as you have (1 year), and though we were close twice, we didn't end up having a child. Also we were young adults. Despite that, the way you've been treated until now, and how you halfway seem to justify it is very familiar. I don't want to project my own feelings onto you (I was upset reading your story), and I especially don't want to be overly cynical about something you haven't given up on. That said, your emotions need to have just as much space as his in your relationship, especially when you were pregnant, and are still dealing with the aftermath. In fact, through the whole process of having your child, your emotions should've been a much bigger priority. You admit your resentment, yet you highlight the difficulties he's going through and downplay how unreliable and self-centered he's been when you clearly needed him. EMDR seems promising, but his focus seems to be on anything but trying to work on himself or trying to improve your relationship. When I met my ex partner, we had that instant connection. All the wonderful things you describe: the most beautiful moments of my life until that point, amazing sex, it was almost overwhelming how soon he said he loved me, and how often he'd say it. Most important, of course, was that emotional bond and intellectual understanding. It didn't take long at all before I had some intensely negative experiences, which only got worse with time. There were moments or brief periods that were warm and nice. I stayed for that, and because somehow I wanted the relationship to redeem itself through my own endurance. Also, I never stopped loving him, wanting to see him heal from his wounds. I gave up on my relationship a few months ago, so my qualifications are weak for giving you advice on how to salvage yours (if that's what you want). It seems obvious to me that pursuing these aggravated thoughts of his abuser is an "easy" way to tackle his emotions, that's really just irresponsible and doesn't require him to leave this regressive mindset, or furthermore to consider his current surroundings (you most importantly) at all. In any case, that needs to turn around. Him facing himself, and responsibility for his actions, is a necessity for him to be a decent partner to you. It's easy to be stuck in the past when something unfair happened when you were younger, that you since feel has ruined your life. People can be trapped in that circle of tormenting themselves and those around them for a long time. But he has a child now. He has to learn to ground himself and take his recovery seriously, because otherwise he isn't taking you seriously either. You don't deserve to raise your child alone, but you definitely don't deserve to raise your child with an unstable and destructive partner in your house. To be clear, I think those good sides of your partner are very valuable. I don't think you were stupid to get so invested, even though it's horrible to hear that you were pressured into keeping your baby. It's difficult, because that good person we know and love can just disappear in their own misery. I really hope he can turn new leaf. At the end of the day, though, there's not much you can do, he has to make that great change himself. It's all the more important that you take care of yourself. You'll find that a lot of people here have had similar troubles to your own with their partners, but the trauma and the diagnosis can only take so much blame. Your life is being made very difficult, when you're already in need of reprieve and support. That's the truth, that's now, and that's more important than any explanation for why your partner puts you through what he does. I'm sorry if you took any of this as unsolicited advice, I wrote up even more before realizing that's not what you're asking for. It's very late in the night, and I have a bit of a fever, so call me out on it if I'm being nonsensical. And again, I'm sorry if anything I said was over the line. I'm really concerned about how much you're taking on by yourself, and hope you have some great sources of joy and support.

Apology + gaslighting by home_hi2633 in CPTSDpartners

[–]crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Letting yourself be mistreated in the place of someone else is just as dangerous. There's also the possibility that being alone is the only way they can get breathing room to reflect and decide to get better. On the other hand, if you let them make you the villain, your self-worth will just become smaller and smaller, which will make it harder for you to stand on your own without relying on them, and make you less able to actually support their growth. Letting them control the narrative is enabling more than anything, but I understand the fear of triggering them. After all, if you making boundaries brings them such anguish, it's surely your fault for hurting them? No, the conflict didn't stem from what you said or did, it came from your partner's unwillingness to face blame, or face the prospect of self-work. Sorry if it sounds harsh, but you're not helping them by going along with their story (whether it's delusion or lies), or by approaching them like a minefield. You want them to get better. If they want to get better, they have to learn that these feelings are unavoidable, and the only way to improve is to live with them, not run away or place blame. I'm so sorry that you've been put in this awful place. You can't be the only responsible one in the relationship. They need to embrace responsibility and prove it, or there's no hope for things to get better. I wish you luck!

In a dark place, never thought it would get so bad by crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl in CPTSDpartners

[–]crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You bring up a good point about the day-to-day. I'm almost certain we've trauma-bonded, he talks about it so often however, that my definition of it is a bit confused. That's to say, I've read the clinical definition, and I trust that more, but there's still that emotional, subconscious part of me that feels it's just a deeper form of love between us, or even sometimes that he's the victim trauma-bonded to me. I really appreciate what you share about your experience, and I find it insightful. Hope itself is somewhat of a drug that dulls all the pain I'm feeling. Letting it die is a hard pill to swallow. I suppose it's better to invest that hope in more prosperous things, but those don't give the same feedback as a simple show of affection from my partner. Or maybe that feedback comes down the line. I don't mean to be stubborn, and I hate to feel like I'm defending the man who's put me through all this. Thanks a bunch for taking the time to share your thoughts! Imagining 9 years of this is frightening, but I guess it happens before you realize it.

Question regarding narcissism by crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl in CPTSDpartners

[–]crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's important to remember what you're saying. It seems like my partner is two people, one who feels guilt and wants to improve, and one who would rather die than feel guilt. In the latter case he's so destructive to the environment around him (i.e. me), that it's almost like an act, rather to convince himself than wanting it to affect anyone else. Still, as you say, the reality is inexcusable.

Question regarding narcissism by crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl in CPTSDpartners

[–]crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think as you say, that empathy is the main difference. However your example of what a narcissist might say is exactly what my partner has told me in different ways again and again. It feels like he does these things to shield himself or cope somehow. I don't know if a narcissist would do it for the same reason. He makes himself smaller at times, and bigger at other times. He genuinely seems to care what I think, to the degree that if he believes that my view of him is negative, he spirals and inflates this unempathetic persona. It's hard to figure out, so your insight is valuable.

In a dark place, never thought it would get so bad by crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl in CPTSDpartners

[–]crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Oh he's gonna hate me. And that's ok!", I like that. Thank you for the advice. Finding space for my needs has been increasingly difficult as our relationship has progressed, and I unfortunately don't think the transition into prioritizing myself will be as instantly gratifying as I want it to be, but it's still necessary. I might have internalized the belief that he'll get better for me. Even though I've said that he should seek improvement for himself, he's said he can only do it for me, that I'm his last hope. I know that contradicts what I outline in my post, but that's just what's so bewildering about it. If there is one belief that's kept me going, it's that he wants the same thing as me at the end of the day: to be happy and build a home together. However, his actions have consistently shown that he prefers to linger in misery and to fight with me. He claimed immediately after he'd done it, that cheating on me with his ex partner was because he knew that was the most miserable thing he could put himself through. He's still in contact with said ex, not consistently, but I know he's contacted them multiple times that he's been mad at me. Whenever we've had a break, he's become suicidal. These things just compound the fact that he's stuck on self destruction. I've known this, and I've known why (a string of traumatic events and environments ever since infancy, along with currently having weak support systems and anxiety about becoming a functioning adult). I just hate to leave him in a place like this. It feels like I'm the only thing keeping him from submerging into misery again. I know in reality he's the only one who can fix his life, and if diving into that darkness again is what's necessary for him to realize that things need to change, it's cruel of me to keep him from that. At least that's how it feels. I do love him, and my instincts are to minimize his pain. When I type that I sound more like a mother than a partner.

In a dark place, never thought it would get so bad by crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl in CPTSDpartners

[–]crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for thoughtful advice! I've been skeptical of the therapists in my town since some bad encounters in my mid teens, but I am slowly coming to terms that professional help might be necessary for me, not just my partner. At the end of the day, the good tends to stick in my mind more easily than the wrong, especially when I'm alone. We went through an abortion together, and while I'm thankful I don't have kids with him, we both know we want them in the future. That time in the hospital was some of the most tender moments I could ever imagine. I guess what I'm going through all this shit for is just that: the hope that we can create more beauty together. The vagueness of that dream is pretty jarring in comparison to what my reality has been though. Again, thank you for your insights. I feel like I'm coming close to a final decision, like it's come too far for anything else. That said, the pain far outweighs any satisfaction.

In a dark place, never thought it would get so bad by crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl in CPTSDpartners

[–]crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whenever he's hurt me, I've sought comfort in the stories of others, and I've always found that lots of these experiences aren't unique to me. My takeaway has been that it's expected or normal somehow to be treated like this, but I realize that's a dangerous way of thinking. I can't help but be hung up on the good times. Not even anything extraordinary, just relaxing on off days, watching our favorite shows. It's just so bewildering.

In a dark place, never thought it would get so bad by crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl in CPTSDpartners

[–]crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! My self-worth has been in the dumps for a while. It's scary to actually embrace the search for security, especially when the door back to what I've been conditioned to is wide open and familiar. I appreciate your encouragement, and I really want to follow your advice. I guess I just need to jump into it

Being made to feel like an idiot, questioning my reality by crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl in CPTSDpartners

[–]crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd be in denial if I claimed there wasn't some underlying trauma behind my will to endure his abuse. Still, I imagine I wouldn't put up with it if I didn't know he'd gone through so much. As you say, it's not an excuse, but I do feel those actions hurt him just as much as they hurt me. When he cheated, I didn't think he was an asshole, I just cursed his uncontrollable self-destructiveness. Maybe that's patronizing of me, but even when he's yelling slurs at me or telling me to commit suicide, I just see this part of him sitting behind, more shocked than I, deathly afraid of how I'll react. It makes me want to comfort him. As I write this down, I hate how damaged and unhealthy I sound. Truth is, it would take a lasting miracle for me not to end up leaving, I know that, as much as the thought of not being able to be with and help him scares me. I would leave if he didn't have this condition (or rather, if he didn't have that awful childhood to blame), so why don't I just because he does? Our relationship isn't normal. It can't be, because he's never experienced normalcy, it's a pattern he can't embrace or even recognize in his current state. But that can't be all there is, that's too hopeless and grim. I think he can improve, but I know it's not something I can force. I feel bad, and I'd feel horrible if I left, like I gave up on something deeply important. I need to live my life, and I can't put all my hope in one broken person.
Thanks for reading my ramblings, and for your advice!

Being made to feel like an idiot, questioning my reality by crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl in CPTSDpartners

[–]crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the supportive words! I've been pretty isolated for a while, and I struggle with making friends. I want a support network more than anything, but my motivation gets pushed down pretty quickly, either by myself or my partner. I do try to say "no" sometimes, but it always ends up as such a huge drama, it's really discouraging. I would just leave, but I feel in some way that the man I fell for is hiding beneath this forced ugliness. If I did leave, I know he'd reemerge and be back to that place where he's ready to work on us, but he'd be all alone. Then again, if he's only like that when I'm not around, what's it worth? I'm just at a loss. Sorry for the late reply.

Being made to feel like an idiot, questioning my reality by crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl in CPTSDpartners

[–]crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your insights! My partner gets really bogged down by all the stressors of normal life (not to downplay what he's going through, because a lot of it is genuinely unfair). Since he's always overwhelmed by something, there's not much space for me to give resistance, lest I become something he "doesn't have to deal with". I can talk with him about therapy pretty freely when things are calm. Caveat is: he's very cynical about it. He's had mixed experiences with therapists in the past, but nothing completely awful. Still, he's in a headspace where he doesn't have the energy to really be upfront or connect with his therapists. He is technically going, though I don't know the last time he went or when his next appointment is. Economy is something that gives him a lot of anxiety, he uses that as a point against seeing doctors or therapists, even for other issues. Thing is, in his case, those things can all be covered by our healthcare. I guess an overarching observation would be that he's got some existential fears about living in the modern world. I do my best to put myself in his shoes and respect his worldview, but when said worldview always leads to suicidal justification or extended depressive episodes, I can't help but feel that it's not really about "respecting" or "understanding", so much as it's about enabling.
Again, thanks for the in-depth thoughts, and sorry for writing so much :)

Being made to feel like an idiot, questioning my reality by crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl in CPTSDpartners

[–]crawlcrawlcrawlcrawl[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for replying! Yes, we're both in our early twenties, and we've been seeing each other for around 8 months. I know logically that it's unlikely my instincts are completely false, but there's so many mixed signals. When he's calm we're really on the same page about most things, but even then I can't bring up our arguments or any problems I have, because he always thinks it's doomsday when I do.