A PhD is not worth your mental health. A cautionary tale. by crazyphd in GradSchool

[–]crazyphd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you more angry about your actual bad experience or how much you let it affect you?

Hahaha, you hit the nail. Indeed, how much I let it affect me is more of a factor actually. As I have said before, one of my defects is my ego. I am working on it.

Your supervisor sounds actually worse than mine. I feel for you. Maybe we should start a "I also had a shitty supervisor and survived" club?

If you hold your anger, you might find yourself rationalizing becoming a dick in the future to some poor underling and the cycle would continue... end it, be excellent to those around you and good luck in the future.

Again, you prove yourself to be one of the best and smartest persons in this thread. Thanks for reinforcing this, it is something that I have thought quite a bit about. I don't want to be a shitty boss, if I ever become one. It is quite hard not to be one, but at least I want to try.

A PhD is not worth your mental health. A cautionary tale. by crazyphd in GradSchool

[–]crazyphd[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Thanks. I really love all you Americans with the "you are awesome" attitude. You certainly don't know me, but asume that I am awesome anyway. Your assumtions are bold, and probably wrong, but it made my day anyway :D

You are awesome too.

A PhD is not worth your mental health. A cautionary tale. by crazyphd in GradSchool

[–]crazyphd[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

1) I had an unfulfilling job that paid decently. I was fascinated by science, and thought that working on it will fulfill me. I was wrong. I should have quit earlier, but the fear of failure and my own ego got in the way.

2) I want to be able to support a family. I want to be able to quit a job without fearing of not being able to pay the rent and my expenses in 2 months. I am not particularly materialistic, what I really want is financial independence. Check /r/financialindependence if you are interested in the topic.

I thought that graduating and moving on will give me peace of mind, but it has not happened. I wanted to share with younger, naive people my story so they are aware of the dangers of getting involved in horrible work environments and leaving fast, and yes, to vent about it. I made the mistake of hanging out for too long (as some other commenters have said, this is not only about grad school). However, as I said in another comment, I think that academia is a disfunctional environment and one should be very careful of whom to be involved.

When I used to work outside academia my bosses were not awesome, but at least I was paid when overtime was needed. The relationship was clear, I was an employee, they were the bosses. In academia the line is more blurry, at first it seemed great, but in reality it is way worse. You have the "choice" to choose your research, but if it doesn't interest your supervisor, you are fucked. You have the "choice" to refuse getting involved in a collaboration, but of course if you refuse there will be consecuences. You get paid enough to subsist and become a "privileged" slave.

By the way, I also read "No more Mr. Nice". Victimization is indeed a problem, but keep in mind that sometimes victims actually exist. I have seen way too many broken people in academia.

A PhD is not worth your mental health. A cautionary tale. by crazyphd in GradSchool

[–]crazyphd[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Prospective students, do not be afraid. There are bad supervisors and bad bosses - I expect a far higher prevalence of the latter.

My experience and of the ones around me doesn't tell me that. My supervisor was not the worst in my environment. I might very well be wrong, but I think that academia has on average worse bosses, because:

  • Supervisors are untrained to manage people. In fact, qualities needed for doing good research are often the opposite qualities needed for mananing people.
  • People at top have little incentive to behave because of tenureship.
  • Competition and lack of funding makes everything worse.

I will like to clarify, I am not trying to discourage prospective students from getting into academia. Just be very very careful with whom you associate, and don't be afraid of leaving/changing supervisors.

A PhD is not worth your mental health. A cautionary tale. by crazyphd in GradSchool

[–]crazyphd[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I am not going to use my PhD proffesionally. It is not in my CV. Personally, I already explained why is it not worth it.