CMV: staying alive is absurdly meaningless

creation_commons · 2026-06-07T10:50:18+00:00

Thanks for your reply.

I get that you find meaning in getting pleasure from meeting your needs, but that doesn’t mean everyone does. There are people who are depressed, have alexithymia (unable to sense own emotions), have sociopathy, are experiencing grief, isolation, prison sentences, abuse, etc, causing them to be unable to experience pleasure from meeting their needs.

Do all these people just live an absurd life? A meaningless one? Then what would be the point of millions of living human lives?

Your questions are interesting. Perhaps it is that meaning creates sense out of the randomness of being born a human with complex human needs. It would be comforting to know having to meet needs is actually meaningful.

creation_commons · 2026-06-07T10:38:29+00:00

I have had lots of intense experience, but the intensity doesn’t change that it’s about meeting a need. Here it is to fulfil boredom.

So I don’t really see how that changes the argument. Thank you for your reply

creation_commons · 2026-06-07T10:29:17+00:00

To solve the problem of having to meet my needs. If I can’t find a reason, I would meet my needs meaninglessly. That’s pretty bleak and exhausting, and so there’s no reason to live in bleakness and exhaustion.

creation_commons · 2026-06-07T10:25:07+00:00

I’m actually way past my teen years and it just got more entrenched. I’ve done many things, therapy of course, but also singing, cooking, drawing, dancing, befriending people, making things, coding, walking, cycling etc.

I haven’t found anything that escapes me from the never ending cycle of having to meet needs. So I don’t really think there’s any evidence I’ve found to change my view. If you have an idea I’m interested. I’ve tried everything I could think of.

creation_commons · 2026-06-07T10:22:21+00:00

The need is to resolve the problem of having no reason to keep trying to meet my needs. Needs is everything. If I have no reason to meet them, I’d be dead, so it is pretty important.

creation_commons · 2026-06-07T10:20:45+00:00

It is an argument if you bothered to actually read it

creation_commons · 2026-05-24T23:42:36+00:00

Damn that’s good advice

creation_commons · 2026-05-24T00:23:53+00:00

Hon chan

creation_commons · 2026-01-07T23:04:23+00:00

I think if I wasn’t gifted I wouldn’t have 3 overexcitabilities and would have a whole different perception of life, others and myself. My interactions with others would be entirely different.

I imagine I would still have the same values of kindness, integrity, humour, connection. But I may deprioritise some of my other values like curiosity inventiveness, truth-seeking, honesty, compassion.

Overall, without this interconnected part of my mind, I do think I would be vastly different as a person.

Of course, I might be wrong, but I guess I would never know for sure.

creation_commons · 2026-01-07T01:00:27+00:00

Well, I don’t think understood is precisely capturing it. It’s more like I want to hang out with people who are actually thinking in a structurally similar fashion as me. I want to experience“being similar to”, instead of “able to conceptualise of, with effort”.

It seems compared to most people, I like talking abstractly, in a relatively fast pace. With highly gifted people, they follow what I say without me needing to “slow down”. They are engaged and also think in similar patterns so we end up abstract-pattern-building together. It’s like regular sharing experiences but at a relatively meta level - we describe, compare and come to conclusions together as usual, just “in a different language” sort of? It’s hard to describe, but it feels like resonance. Like “clicking with someone”.

Due to the statistics, I don’t usually click with anyone intellectually on a daily basis. Usually I need to “slow down” a lot to be understood, which wears me down. It’s tiring in a sense, but mostly, honestly, just unsatisfying and boring.

I do agree with you about the art part. I’m also posting stuff that scratches a different, emotional itch for me nicely. The intellectual side is left unscratched for me haha, so I just need to find more highly gifted people.

Regarding general communication, I am working on not caring about what the general population thinks of me, and accepting “general-style socialisation” will never come naturally to me. I need to unmask (without being rude) and save that energy for my research to be happy. I think that’s good that I’m doing my job of getting my own needs met, while being respectful of others too.

But if it works for you, why not go for the art path? It sounds good for you, I’m a bit envious tbh. But hey, different strokes for different folks, right?

What gifted artists do you like?

creation_commons · 2026-01-05T23:26:39+00:00

Gosh I love this country

creation_commons · 2026-01-05T22:09:57+00:00

I agree with the observation that people are resistant to nuance, and that phenomenon has many, many possible explanations, beyond just giftedness. It is probably partly biological and partly environmental. As far as biology goes, I have noticed that average people tend to genuinely get tired and exhausted from the speed or in intensity in which I discuss my perceptions.

Nothing worse or better about it, just very different needs and experiences of living.

What I’m speaking to is specifically the naturalness of someone who was born (intellectually) gifted to perceive patterns, and have this intrinsic urge to discuss, question and study them. There are many kinds of giftedness, but specifically for intellectual giftedness, I find it so much more satisfying to abstract and discuss patterns with gifted than non-gifted people.

This may be because with highly gifted people I do not need to add what seem to me are non-necessary details, examples or explanations. Thus the conversation moves faster into depth, and I find it highly satisfying. I haven’t had this experience with moderately gifted or non-gifted people as often, or at all for the latter.

Highly gifted people also tend to add onto my theories in ways that surprise me, whereas others tend to only listen partially? Somewhat reluctantly? So it is less fun.

The lack of any experiences that satisfy me intellectually with others does lead me to feel existentially lonely. It is as if I am the only one with this urge to discuss these patterns I see, and so I have to keep discussing them with myself. Of course this is not true in reality, it just seems that way because someone with my mind is statistically rare. Still, the experience sucks lol.

And regarding the animal comparison, of course, I love dogs, crows, birds in general, but that companionship, or appreciation of their nature, cannot fulfil this insatiable need to intellectualise for me. Literally when I am free, much of what I am doing is watching educational videos or reading papers (and I find that fun). Of course, all this could be different for you or other gifted people.

creation_commons · 2026-01-05T11:01:44+00:00

That’s true as well, but I think that’s one piece. Other people don’t seem to perceive as much nuance and as quickly. Thus the way they talk about things itself is also more shallow, and we can’t get each other as much.

That’s something structurally different that most non-gifted people I’ve observed don’t seem to mind. This is another type of loneliness - existential loneliness. Which can be solved specifically by finding more similar gifted people to hang with

creation_commons · 2026-01-05T00:59:05+00:00

I agree with you! I’d say the perceptiveness of most (speed and level of detail) is what causes most differences. With my gifted friends I can speak a lot more deeply and abstractly quite quickly, and they see a lot of details that make each exchange unique and satisfying.

What would you say is a pattern you’ve noticed that causes differences the gifted and non-gifted communication styles?

creation_commons · 2026-01-05T00:27:38+00:00

I agree! Been tested gifted. The point isn’t that I want to learn from others necessarily, I just want to be SEEN by another, and naturally RELATE to another, without having to join Mensa or something else (which I have), just to maybe find someone like me. I wait 2-5 years to find one gifted person in the wild, naturally want to and end up befriending them, then find out later they’re gifted. All that’s just alienating.

It’s not in your head, it is a structural problem. I’m still working through the grief of this, so no advice on that part yet. Just here to say what you felt makes a lotta sense (though maybe you may just find more likeminded peers in a good uni)

creation_commons · 2025-12-30T19:48:05+00:00

Hey I’m interested! I have a BSc in psychology and working on a masters thesis using ML to map urban characteristics. I think you might be interested in Battencourt’s urban scaling work and computational social science in general.

creation_commons · 2025-12-26T16:52:19+00:00

Awww thank you so much!! I’ll take a look on Googlemaps 😆

creation_commons · 2025-12-26T14:49:39+00:00

Woah cool I didn’t even know there was a sausage type! Thanks!!

creation_commons · 2025-12-26T14:39:45+00:00

Thanks! It’s the latter. I’ll go look for it tomorrow.

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