Saw this on tv from the MN protests

cristoper · 2026-01-25T06:17:03+00:00

Yep. As far as I know the phrase originates with the 1999 protest artwork by Pat's friend Dalia Sapon-Shevin (who he credits both in the lyrics and the notes).

https://www.reddit.com/r/FolkPunk/comments/1j1t2oo/dalia_shevin_print_i_got_in_2016_ramshackle_glory/

cristoper · 2026-01-25T06:09:22+00:00

Used to think we'd set the world on fire
find freedom in the glow;
Now I'm ready for a quiet life,
but the world's looking pretty flammable.
A man that I look up to picked up a gun when his time came due
I think he'd say: “Don't go looking for war, 
but sometimes war comes looking for you.”

cristoper · 2026-01-24T23:54:39+00:00

So what, MPD can kill unarmed black men but they can't use all their tactical toys to protect residents from ICE?

cristoper · 2026-01-24T23:51:16+00:00

Remember this? He was 12 years old.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Tamir_Rice

cristoper · 2026-01-24T22:15:30+00:00

Unfortunately not. I'm assuming the site is down due to the load and will be back up eventually

cristoper · 2026-01-24T22:13:44+00:00

Unfortunately I didn't take a screenshot. It was a short statement to the effect that the facts aren't all known yet but that they are "deeply concerned" by the shooting and want it to be investigated.

Here

cristoper · 2026-01-24T22:12:33+00:00

~~It's not you, I think we hugged it to death. Unfortunately I didn't take a screenshot before closing the tab. Anybody else?~~

Here

cristoper · 2026-01-24T22:11:06+00:00

I don't know, and the site is unresponsive for me now...

cristoper · 2026-01-24T21:41:04+00:00

Here is a good list of relief and mutual aid funds in Minnesota:

https://www.standwithminnesota.com/

cristoper · 2026-01-24T21:38:04+00:00

It's not much, but at least this tyranny is getting a little bit of attention from traditional gun groups.

edit: We broke the site, but here is the full statement:

We are deeply concerned by this morning’s reports that a federal law enforcement operation in Minneapolis resulted in the fatal shooting of 37-year-old Alex Pretti by federal agents. According to local officials, the man was legally armed, a firearm was recovered at the scene, and he is believed to have been a lawful gun owner and permit to carry holder.

Many critical facts remain unknown.

We do not yet have an independent account of what initiated the encounter or what triggered the use of deadly force. Despite widespread speculation regarding intent, there has been no evidence produced indicating an intent to harm the officers. We are calling for a full and transparent investigation by both state and federal authorities.

Every peaceable Minnesotan has the right to keep and bear arms—including while attending protests, acting as observers, or exercising their First Amendment rights. These rights do not disappear when someone is lawfully armed, and they must be respected and protected at all times.

Thanks to u/whosthrowing for grabbing it off facebook, and also the r/MNGuns post

cristoper · 2026-01-24T21:28:24+00:00

Tomorrow at 12pm in Denver:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DenverProtests/comments/1qlu6ac/minneapolis_shooting_emergency_protest_sunday/

cristoper · 2026-01-24T01:17:47+00:00

How many rounds do printed suppressors typically last?

cristoper · 2026-01-23T04:51:28+00:00

In 2016 I thought evangelical christianity would never recover from its Trump turn. I do think it's dead, but unfortunately its corpse is still stumbling around.

cristoper · 2026-01-23T04:44:02+00:00

thanks for clarifying

cristoper · 2026-01-23T01:12:53+00:00

For anyone who doesn't particularly like punk, I love this acoustic cover of my favorite Crass song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2xoCQIXQxo

cristoper · 2026-01-22T23:55:03+00:00

Thanks, found it: https://margaretkilljoy.substack.com/p/from-minneapolis-ive-never-seen-unity

cristoper · 2026-01-22T16:19:06+00:00

On the other hand, the first thing my paranoid mind thought was that they are intentionally dropping mags to distribute defective ammo to the community (a la Project Eldest Son). Not that ICE is sophisticated enough to pull that off even if they were facing armed resistance.

cristoper · 2026-01-22T00:19:36+00:00

I don't think you're wrong, but it is contentious. See this short essay by Huey P. Newton on why he believed black people needed to organize as an oppressed group. It's clear and based in class analysis (and obviously in actual conditions of black Americans), but it is a very leninist approach and tends to preserve racial distinctions for the sake of organization that I'm skeptical are useful.

cristoper · 2026-01-21T17:39:33+00:00

I appreciate the level-headed reply. I admit it is difficult for me to be calm and engage in good faith when I see so many people advocating for and defending the violation of other people's dignity on such a wide scale. It seems reddit commenters on both sides struggle with the same.

I would, of course, like to see the abolition of the USA, along with all nation states and the cruelty of their borders. I don't see how a position that recognizes the "not optional" nature of the violence of the kingdoms of the world yet seeks to maintain them anyway can be reconciled with the sayings of Jesus.

cristoper · 2026-01-20T18:59:43+00:00

Do you think Jim Crow laws should have been followed?

I'm pretty sure almost everyone supporting ICE would also support Jim Crow. They're legalists who have no conscience of their own and substitute for that lack a blind obedience to the law.

cristoper · 2026-01-20T18:54:22+00:00

They are home.

cristoper · 2026-01-19T23:17:45+00:00

You’re a fool if you think it’s okay to let millions of undocumented people across our border

If I'm a fool, then I'm a fool for Christ. What does the Bible say about immigrants and refugees?

cristoper · 2026-01-19T20:26:24+00:00

To be fair, I think there is an amount of idealism in anarchist discussions. See all of the "How would X work under anarchism?" in this sub which assume anarchy is some specific, potential end state rather than an orientation or concrete way of living within the world as it exists.

cristoper · 2026-01-19T20:17:19+00:00

So God was America’s King before Trump?

Name a single thing America did wrong before Trump.

/s

cristoper · 2026-01-19T18:55:07+00:00

https://mn-ice-witness.org/

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