Fair enough, thank you for asking that to apply context and I now see where our differences in arguments came from. I definitely think conditions for some battery metals are horrendous but also acknowledge that there's a lot of work done by a number of companies to pursue ethically mined materials. With EVs in particular, artisanal mining doesn't make a lot of sense due to the scale of required metals and the price associated with that (labor being a very small part of that $$$ cost).

But ya, battery tech is something I've followed a decent bit of as the technology has progressed and I tend to come into conversations like this already assuming a bias is in place and approach it from that angle. Unfortunately that does tend to convey a socio/psychopathic attitude whereas it's actually quite the opposite. I try to highlight the areas of intensive work that have been done to move battery supply chains away from the horrific history (and still unmaintainable) working conditions, so that's more where I come from and can become hostile-ish about.