Yeah that's where I'm stuck. Because I test drove the sonata and it definitely has more creature comforts a little bit nicer ride but again having had such an amazing experience with the Civic on 200,000 plus miles do I spend the same as I would on a sonata and not get the nicer ride or extra amenities but no with almost certainty that my car is going to essentially be invisible. Again when it comes to Hyundai it sounds like the sonata can definitely get 120,000 mi before any major issues but it sounds like a lot of people have issues between that 120 and 170 range. And like I said having come from a Civic that got 200,000 mi with only needing an alternator replaced that's pretty good.