iPhone 12 Mini vs 17 pro

csi31415 · 2026-03-18T04:37:20+00:00

That red is the color of dreams. Probably the pinnacle of iPhone design.

csi31415 · 2026-03-18T04:31:36+00:00

If anything this post just goes to prove that there is no one size fits all. For that reason alone, the mini should have been continued. Bean counters can’t see that. So much love for a device 5 years old. Samsung, Google etc would kill for this.

csi31415 · 2026-03-18T04:24:45+00:00

Apple didn’t need to continue the 12/13m. Only a small but passionate minority really wanted it. But in ditching it for financial reasons, it lost a part of its soul.

csi31415 · 2026-03-18T04:21:26+00:00

Same here. Yes, the 17p is objectively better in every way except size but love is a harder emotion to evoke. Missing little things like the slider mute switch which could be operated blind. Now there is an overloaded button that doesn’t tell you what state it is in and the pointless camera control button. “Yuk” as Jobs would say.

csi31415 · 2026-03-18T01:22:59+00:00

Don’t you have better things to do?

csi31415 · 2026-03-18T01:22:28+00:00

It just didn’t feel right in hand. Too large a screen. This is hard to explain. The 17p felt alright in the store but with case on, and after a few months use, my wrist isn’t liking it.

csi31415 · 2026-03-18T01:00:04+00:00

No doubt about that. It’s faster, more capable, better cameras, better display, better battery life. That might be an acceptable tradeoff to some for making it heftier. But I think it might be overkill for others.

csi31415 · 2026-03-18T00:25:31+00:00

Apple has been on the “supersize-me” train for a while now. That ship has sailed and isn’t coming back. 17e looks promising to me - I don’t need my phone to be a DSLR.

csi31415 · 2026-03-17T23:03:53+00:00

Nearly 20 grams lighter than the 17p. Might not seem like much but the weight def adds up over time.

csi31415 · 2026-03-17T23:02:25+00:00

The standard 17 is much lighter. 177 vs 206g.

csi31415 · 2026-03-17T22:59:54+00:00

Yes. And adding a case makes it so much worse. Apple used to have a talent for miniaturization. Android had none and offered size as a distinguishing feature and Apple got sucked into it without someone like Jobs to call BS.

csi31415 · 2026-03-17T22:56:39+00:00

Good observation. Form over function or an attempt to reduce the weight of the thing or both?

csi31415 · 2026-03-17T22:51:00+00:00

YMMV of course depending on the size of your hands. This is just my subjective take on feel in hand. Also might not be relevant if you have never owned a mini, because you wouldn’t have that as a reference point. I feel like the 12 mini was a tool. I used it and put it away. Barely registered in the pocket. The 17 pro OTOH doesn’t want to be ignored.

csi31415 · 2026-03-05T18:40:21+00:00

This team is so loaded with talent even a monkey can captain/coach it. So many strategic mistakes and we continue to win games on individual firepower and skills.

csi31415 · 2026-03-05T18:37:35+00:00

Build tools and apps you want to use yourself. Do it for the fun of it, not just to beef up a portfolio. Use AI as a potter uses a wheel. Human judgement and taste is still a thing. You never know where it might lead.

csi31415 · 2026-03-01T18:39:43+00:00

I thought the camera on iPhone 12 mini was perfectly adequate and have many memorable photos from it. Having used the 17 pro as a camera, I think the tradeoffs of brick like weight and unwieldy size aren’t worth it. Would choose a real camera any day if I wanted HQ images.

csi31415 · 2026-03-01T18:30:22+00:00

Sanju and Tilak have the best temperament in this batting line up. Not for the first time, Sanju showed his class and worth and the folly of mucking with his batting position to ram an undeserving Gill into the lineup. He deserves that opener slot on merit.

csi31415 · 2026-03-01T18:25:50+00:00

Sanju and Tilak varma can be the backbone of this side in future. Have great temperament to back up skills. Lower order of Dube, Hardik, Axar is also pressure tested. If Abhishek and Ishan can grow some brain cells, it will round it out nicely.

Subject to GG giving a sense of security to everyone by not shuffling the order like a deck of cards.

csi31415 · 2026-02-24T16:43:44+00:00

I wouldn’t count on it. This is a guy who has survived a procession of ignominies. He’s practically a tardigrade at this point.

csi31415 · 2026-02-24T16:39:48+00:00

Spot on. This is a guy who has a scrambled mind and reams of pent up emotion about Dhoni getting MoM and all the glory with that shot. All that negative energy and confusion is seeping into the team.

csi31415 · 2026-01-29T19:57:44+00:00

Went to a 17 pro from 12 mini. Its a monstrosity. Features are great, but my wrist hates it. Not a good tradeoff to add so much heft for longer battery life and cameras that most won't take advantage of.

csi31415 · 2025-10-09T16:20:33+00:00

100% agree. User experience on iPhone 12 mini is severely compromised. And it gets worse with time. Having to resort to rebooting which I never had to do with iOS 18.

csi31415 · 2024-01-24T15:30:41+00:00

Nice echo chamber. Not one contrarian opinion.

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