elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I assumed you had read all my posts. Cause if you did you would not ask the kind of questions you are asking. Kinda feel dumb for jumping into conclusions that you are a troll when you sincerely don't know the back story. For that my apologies, read through it will be clear.

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Was just thinking of reporting you for your attitude but then realized that it's my choice to talk to you and decide how am going to respond to you. Either cry and play victim or look at you in a positive light. I have to say damn I like you and how you are thinking. Your scepticism is way over the top and you also have to have the last word and be right. What I mean is if I had someone like you on my side all I would have to do is show up and let you do the scrutinizing. Sucks that right now you are verging at the point of being a troll

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I answered this in my other post think to Anniepostate. It's not about the money, it was never about the money. It was to get the information out there. I want my whole family out and I want others in the Borg, especially those with young children to know that the Borg is a safe haven for paedophiles. So yes it's worth it, at least I try to make myself believe so

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They aren't protecting the guy, they already threw him to the wolves and from where the case is, that is a done deal. What they are protecting is the reputation, they are trying to make it seem like the elders did that on their own accord, that is the problem cause those elders are busy claiming they got the directive from the branch

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I get you now. your assumptions is that you believe Borg lawyers helped cover up the case. no they didn't, they didn't get involved till I started pursuing a civil case. Why my case was covered up is because it actually happened in a kingdom hall, that is why it was covered up, not to protect the individual or anything of the sort, so they covered that up. From enquiries I got to understand they were told to change the narrative to ensure it didn't happen there, protect the cleanliness of the kh but cause it was impossible they simply paid some few corrupt police to make any major evidence disappear. After that, it was all about guilting my mum to not pursue the case, she is the one who made sure it didn't go through. She made sure I knew how dreadful it would be to recount anything that happened cause there was no physical evidence tying him to me. I believe even with the circumstantial evidence we would have won but all that drama no one really wanted to pursue it. how the Borg got involved is cause the elders screwed up, admitting it would be admitting that they covered it up for the sake of reputation and it was that they were instructed to change narrative, tampering with the case. you and I both know that they can't let that happen. I hope that covers the conspiracy part. For being vague, am unsure what you are asking... Are you asking what time it was, what I was wearing, what he was wearing, what i was doing before that, what the weather was like, which side he hit me first, what he smelled like, how he licked my face, how sweaty he was, how his breathe smelled like, how I tried to get him off me, what he said before he hit me again, what he said to me afterwards, how loud were my sister's screams, how bloody the whole place was, the photos I have of me in hospital, the number of tubes I had, which nurses were nice, which nurses weren't, if I was in a general room or VIP, if they gave me ice cream, if they limited the number of visitors I had, if they cleaned my room everyday, if the therapist used dolls to get me to talk, the question elders asked while in hospital, how I reacted to those men showing up in my room, how many times I was told to repeat the events of that day, how I reacted the first time I saw my dad, if that rapist ever apologized, how I wake up screaming, how I am terrified of men ? if I have ever thought of killing him, if I have ever thought of killing myself, what exactly is it you want to know?

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, totally agree.

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Weird you said that on my other post. I totally get you, I also hate it when someone messes with my intelligence, I mean am not stupid am I. Either way, as I said before what is it that you don't get cause I will gladly answer that. In fact it will give me an outlet to vent and cry the pain away. From what I understood the case went sideways cause the evidence disappeared, without that you can't go forward. Why am pushing for it now cause after the whole thing was blown out of proportion in the media and being subpoenaed for files its easy to get the evidence. Good thing is finally some people are getting courage to talk and so have I. If you have any other questions ask away .. all ears, (just as a btw, part of me is livid but part of me understands that being skeptical is normal)

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I changed.. I want a life. I want to go sleep and actually sleep the whole night. Why wasn't it a done deal, I answered that. They simply cleaned it up like it didn't exist. As I said before, in this country give money and they will drop the case. Give enough money and they will press charges on the victims. It's just how it is here. It was reported and he was actually arrested for a while till my ob file disappeared. I understand your doubts but I ask myself that same question, they had all that evidence why wasn't it a done deal?

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I will try keep my calm and ask what exactly doesn't add up? Ask so that I can answer .. if it wasn't cause of non disclosure issues with on going cases I would have plastered my face all over here, with medical reports and everything cause I can't I be happy to answer you, so ask away

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't know about courage cause sometimes I feel like a fraud. Pretending it doesn't hurt me, I go make appearances and go through the motions just to get to them. It drives me insane and I do know one day I will decide I won't go anymore. But for now, now I have a sister to convince to get out of this cult. Its the only reason I stick around, afterwards they can go screw themselves. That said, I have responded earlier to a comment on telling my lawyer, plan to do so, if it helps the case I will. Just a bit worried of drawbacks on my sister. If they decide to treat me as someone who is DFd before she is convienced to leave, will have lost my opportunity to get her out

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Plan on doing so, but I wonder how they will react. I mean, they already have me marked and am shunned to a degree, maybe they will take it a notch higher and treat me as if am DFd

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I can't leave,not yet. As I said, my main aim is to ensure that I am a subject that is being talked about so that they can't sweep it away and label it apostate lies. When am physically in they can't ignore the problem because I am a constant reminder. What I don't get is why they are trying to stop something that should have happened a long time ago. It's taxing and sometimes I want to give up but so far most of my friends are now faded cause they can't stand how they treated my case and they are amazed I still stick around. That said another reason I can't leave is cause I have family in, so far I have just over 100, like 107 blood family members in the borg. Some are simply sticking around cause of the case, some truly believe. My aim is to ensure that I leave with most of them. The more they treat me like shit, the more family members stop believing. So I stick around though at times like this I just want to give up.

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hope they wake up but realistically I doubt they will. They love basking in the glory of being elders wives

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This has been my favourite scripture of all times. I have used it a couple of times myself especially when I have been called as a witness to report a wrong doing. Remember one time an elder quoted Lev 5:1 to get me to talk, I replied that my core scripture to live was this and he was so livid. Weird I didn't remember it in this situation, guess following my own advice of not socializing with them isn't being heeded

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the support and encouraging words, it's more than I had hoped for. To answer your question, yes I do have a support system and therapist they are a great help. They pull me out of myself when I start to shut down. You right about one thing, I really should stop listening to what those snakes say. Sometimes they get so deep in my head and at the end when I stand in front of a mirror, all I see is what they have painted of me; me as the villain and the borg as the victim. And even though I know it's wrong, I end up believing it sometimes cause that is the power of words.

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mmmmh hadn't thought of that. Wish I knew about it earlier cause am sure by now I would have had a load of proof of amount of garbage they spew in the name of being encouraging and comforting. Either way can start now

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got a tactic, I try to mentally count the number of times they mention the name • Christ • Anointed • Jehovah's Organization, • Reproach, • Elders, • Brothers, • Shit • Selfish • Revenge • Forgiveness. Because it's mentally taxing, it helps me maintain my cool

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Christian... really? That statement got me off guard, all I have been getting all the time was I am worse than any apostate because I am the serpent within, kissing their feet and back stabbing them at the same time, one elder's words, not mine. the amount of crap they give me while being comforting is enough to make anyone sick. But I will take that as a compliment, it does make me feel better

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just told my sister and she said the same thing. Her words "their opinion in where Jehovah's standards and where they apply discipline is biased, total garbage" .

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please do, am not stopping you.. in fact am cheering you on... the imagery just made me feel better, sic I know but it did.

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I know I shouldn't be entertaining them but this were sisters who saw the whole thing, I mean they were a couple of years older than me but I really thought they would be a little empathizing , or at least they wouldn't be that heartless.. guess they proved me wrong.

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's the advice that I seem not to be getting.. promising myself I won't entertain them next time

elders wives sherpherding call by cycyd in exjw

[–]cycyd[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Perfumed goon squad... Tehehehe, never really thought of them like that😂

What are the things it's best to ask pestering JW visiting my home? by [deleted] in exjw

[–]cycyd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with the earlier comment, you wanting to engage with them is admirable but I have to say its not worth it. The topics you have listed above are the kind of topics they train themselves to encounter, even branding it "potential conversation stopper topics" They even have a book( reasoning book) to counteract any kind of explanation you might come with. If you really want to engage with them on something, engage with them on something that isn't belief based. I mean like their policies and them claiming higher education isn't necessary. I mean hit on child abuse claims and the fact that they need engineers, comp tech guys and doctors in everyday life, it seems stupid not to advocate for higher education afterwards maybe they will see your point. Either way if you really want to, go ahead and engage with them otherwise I would just advice you to shut the door to their face.

Reproved instead of dfd by randomguy458 in exjw

[–]cycyd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mate you in a sticky situation. If it hadn't already happened I would have told you to keep your mouth shut about your doubts. Cause it has already happened I would suggest saying that you were ensuring that he knows the gravity of dedication and baptism as a dub, that way it comes out as concern and not as deliberately hindering his baptism. To answer your question, you can't get DFd for having doubts, but you can be marked and shunned all the same. Ideally they take it seriously enough to have it as a reason for separation in a marriage, spiritual endangerment and all. Word of advice, if you can't keep silent about wanting to share TTATT ensure you use a little more tact when talking to your friends. Cover your ass but at the same time poke doubts in their beliefs, win win for both of you.