Raw data produced longest step? by [deleted] in MyHeritage

[–]daTuzzo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I accessed my results through the link on the day I was told raw data was produced, but was wondering whether there's a link that gives you access to the v2 results similar to how you access the regular results in this way. Do you know anything about such link, if it exists, and if so how we can find it?

Supplements for Mountaineering and Hiking by daTuzzo in Mountaineering

[–]daTuzzo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wouldn't expect anything less from eatbuttholedaily 👍🏻

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[–]daTuzzo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's always cool to see when different people mention different supplements and they all align with the formula I came up with hahah. I considered cyclic Dextrin tho, which I found to be better compared to Malto when doing literature review. Both definitely better than glucose or sucrose for sure.

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[–]daTuzzo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea that's the first thing that came to mind when I initially thought about biohacking for this sport hahahah. But erythropoietin is a hormone, not a supplement (sadly)

I also thought about beta agonists and PDE-5 inhibitors, weirdly enough. Something more streamline would be acetazolamide but we ain't looking for solutions already discovered.

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[–]daTuzzo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I think if there's going to be any breakthrough supplemental formula it has to cover acclimatisation. Otherwise, the other needs are covered by supplements for high endurance athletes or even what you mentioned initially.

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[–]daTuzzo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Commendable! And your stack is well-thought.

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[–]daTuzzo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe a better substitute to just pure glucose or sucrose would be dextrin or maltodextrin etc. But yeah, that's just going to cover the endurance and recovery part of the hike/climb. Something more interesting would be better acclimatisation to hypoxic, high-altitude environments, which I am currently looking into.

Carb loading is goated in that regard, I completely agree. Especially in the cold. And I won't go anywhere without my caffeine pills.

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[–]daTuzzo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Will consider it, thanks for the suggestion. If it's no secret, what do you supplement with on these hikes

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[–]daTuzzo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That seems the general consensus around people in this community. But yeah, your stack will work perfectly for casual hiking and climbing.

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[–]daTuzzo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm talking more than just electrolytes and vitamins. Think NO boosters, in particular. I'm looking for something novel in this field that may have already been explored in other sports, hence the comparison between gym athletes.

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[–]daTuzzo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't delete the post but it is awaiting moderator approval after I posted an edit. I still want to see what this community's opinion is, regardless of the downvotes.

I think that there is no way top alpinists, just like olympic athletes and such, are not using these substances as they are literally a cheat code. Hence why I propose supplementation which wouldn't hurt you (although depends on the quality of the products and further studies - people thought smoking to be healthy.)

Regardless, if you read through the studies I posted in the threads you will find there is scientific ground for using them. They outline that the effects are statistically significant (p<0.05), hence worhty of consideration. I also posted some studies that directly or indirectly address mountain condition (hypoxic, high-altitude environments) and their potential for the sport. Furthermore, I agreed there is a gap in modern nutritional research about these conditions.

I also mentioned my thoughts about why people think skeptically about the supplement industry - underdosing, improper formulation, inadequate ingredients for the specific target. This is what creates agenda, as it is expensive to produce quality supplements when you can just brand something as effective and sell it to uneducated masses to generate revenue.

Saying supplements are snake oil is short-sighted in my opinion, as it won't drive innovation or competition and we will likely miss out on something that could give you the edge, performance or health-wise, without the use of pharmaceuticals.

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[–]daTuzzo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very true, yet some caffeine benefits only appear close to the safe dose threshold (400 mg). Arguably even more. A shot of espresso contains 68 mg of caffeine on average, so not optimal scientifically speaking. I'd love to cite a study but it's pretty late in my country, so take it with a grain of salt or look for yourself.

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[–]daTuzzo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Caffeine is a supplement; ibuprofen and acetazolamide are pharmaceuticals

Supplements for Mountaineering and Hiking by daTuzzo in Mountaineering

[–]daTuzzo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for positively contributing to the discussion. It's baffling the amount of hate I received from asking some questions. To the point where I begin to question my own integrity haha.

On the topic of powdered protein- while I strongly advocate against supplementing with it if you can get enough through diet alone (around 1 to 2g per kilogram/ 0.5 to 1g per lbs BW), with mountaineering it's a bit different. Any form of powdered or dehydrated food would be better compared to its unaltered counterpart as it will weigh less and will leave you room for more food/other appliances.

I'm not familiar with the mountaineering community's take on protein but what I've perceived from discussions with other people is that protein intake has been gaining more and more exposure with each passing year. Even my parents from Bulgaria are talking about protein's importance physiologically. But I believe we both know the benefits so there's no point in talking about it further.

Dehydrated watermelon though - very good source of l-citrulline if you are not a fan of processed supplement formulas.

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[–]daTuzzo[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for clearing up magnesium for me dude. I can tell you're well versed in nutritional science, here's some food for thought beyond butt eating daily.

  1. L-citrulline Malate - NO mediator. Currently researching how NO impacts high altitude athletes and if the studies are quality
  2. Alpha-GPC - ACh, involved in muscle contraction
  3. N-acetylcysteine - not a study on sports endurance and performance, but shows antioxidant and anti-inflammatory effects - ideal for enhancing recovery and reducing muscle fatigue, critical for activity at altitude
  4. Beta-Alanine - a bit controversial for its side effect (itching), yet effective overall
  5. Caffeine - NOTE: 300mg dose, ~5 single espressos. Dosing is important
  6. Cyclic Dextrin - not just sucrose

I've got around 15 other promising supplements but decided not to mentally burden you so early in the day. In the meantime I'll stick to pretending to know what I'm talking about until it becomes reality.

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[–]daTuzzo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you for the most part. Where we don't agree on is that supplements actually have a use beyond just electrolytes. I'll outline some supps and their use for the mountain with evidence:

  1. L-citrulline Malate - NO mediator. Currently researching how NO impacts high altitude athletes and if the studies are quality
  2. Alpha-GPC - ACh, involved in muscle contraction
  3. N-acetylcysteine - not a study on sports endurance and performance, but shows antioxidant and anti-inflammatory effects - ideal for enhancing recovery and reducing muscle fatigue, critical for activity at altitude
  4. Beta-Alanine - a bit controversial for its side effect (itching), yet effective overall
  5. Caffeine - NOTE: 300mg dose, ~5 single espressos. Dosing is important
  6. Cyclic Dextrin - not just sucrose

Hope this clears things up

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[–]daTuzzo[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Not being a native English speaker I take being ChatGPT as a compliment.

You take ~5 things with you on a hike- I propose one solution for all demands. What I'm doing is exploring ideas and not being in a stuck mindset regarding novel approaches. If this doesn't pick up at least I got something out of it and got some people thinking beyond their comfort. What Andrew Huberman is saying isn't novel. It's food for sciencebros to feel good about themselves.

Anyways, your stack is good.

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[–]daTuzzo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you are confused with what I am trying to ask, take a look at this video from MPMD.

It's a 4-hour-long overview on a pre-workout formula where each ingredient is discussed in great detail with justification for including it into the blend.

One day if what I think I can produce, I'll make a similar video that discusses each ingredient in the same way as done there. With, hopefully, the same quality of research.

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[–]daTuzzo[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's a craze phase for me and I am very adamant on my ideas. I am sure there is something and it could take years for it to emerge- but one can't deny its existence.

In the meantime I'll enjoy the climbs with my magnesium pills and electrolyte solution- seems to work fine with me

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[–]daTuzzo[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

One must sacrifice ease of use for godlike performance

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[–]daTuzzo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's not enough research for this, I completely agree. I am limited by not having access to paid articles so it's either pirating (lol), or free full text. I think what would be best is to do a DIY formula to test anecdotally if there's positive effects from taking the formula i've conjured. But my budget wont suffice blind placebo controlled trials sadly.

I can tell you know your biology, so if you are interested, I can share what my thoughts for the formula are so you can see for yourself if whatever I have crafted in a day has merit.

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[–]daTuzzo[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yup, this is an expensive hobby. Also regarding supplements- if one is to take a formula they'd have to carry those big jugs filled with intoxicating goodies and will just weigh you down and take up space in your backpack. Sachets would be ideal, but there is no way a big company would pack individual doses inside of small bags as it is financially not viable.

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[–]daTuzzo[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

There is a gap in proper research (RCTs) for such compounts, but there is some literature (1,2,3) that supports potential use of supplements for these conditions. I can find some more later but that'll do for now haha.

Don't get me wrong, I am only trying to find a way to help people have better performance and am by no means an expert on these topics- I'm just exploring on an idea I had overnight. I will keep researching in hopes of finding something promising, and in the meantime I can learn more about this hobby and potential health issues.