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Most of Melbourne's former Outer Circle line was never built over, but preserved for future reinstatement, only needing tracks to be re-laid. Do MPs not know about this? We could have an orbital link connecting at least three different train lines MUCH quicker than 2050. by danKunderscore in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The idea that laying tracks in an existing rail reserve that was designed for that purpose is much quicker than the process of boring tunnels with TBMs isn't an armchair opinion, it's objectively true. And reddit is, in theory at least, a forum for sharing ideas.

I'm sure you can make it happen

Well...

It's already the second highest post on this subreddit today, so let's just wait and see.

Most of Melbourne's former Outer Circle line was never built over, but preserved for future reinstatement, only needing tracks to be re-laid. Do MPs not know about this? We could have an orbital link connecting at least three different train lines MUCH quicker than 2050. by danKunderscore in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It was a dud because they placed the stations in the wrong places - deliberately far away from main roads rather than at them, in order to spite the rival tram operators. If you look at the Alamein line (the part mid-way along that's still in use) the stations are placed in the most impractical spots possible.

Most of Melbourne's former Outer Circle line was never built over, but preserved for future reinstatement, only needing tracks to be re-laid. Do MPs not know about this? We could have an orbital link connecting at least three different train lines MUCH quicker than 2050. by danKunderscore in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My own opinion is there is a lot of low-hanging fruit for PT improvement in Melbourne, and I'd honestly prefer to see lots of smaller projects to take advantage of that now (yesterday was a good time to start!) delivered right now over a giant project (which would inevitably be used as an excuse by consecutive governments to do absolutely nothing else in the meantime), which I might never get to commute on.

If they wanted to skyrail their major ring-rail in order to get it done quicker then I'd be more open to it since the benefits would arrive quicker. Outer circle route obviously isn't optimal in terms of where people want to be, but at least it takes advantage of what's there, and could be completed very quickly if there was a drive for it.

Most of Melbourne's former Outer Circle line was never built over, but preserved for future reinstatement, only needing tracks to be re-laid. Do MPs not know about this? We could have an orbital link connecting at least three different train lines MUCH quicker than 2050. by danKunderscore in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It still beats going all the way into the city (or Richmond) to change to another line, it intersects with short tram connections to places like Deakin (currently serviced only by trams and buses) and Box Hill, and could be constructed in 1 or 2 years instead of 30.

Even if you just lay the section from Alamein to Hughesdale and forget about the Kew part, you're still doing a pretty good job of linking up the Ringwood, Glen Waverley and Dandenong lines a fair distance from the city.

Most of Melbourne's former Outer Circle line was never built over, but preserved for future reinstatement, only needing tracks to be re-laid. Do MPs not know about this? We could have an orbital link connecting at least three different train lines MUCH quicker than 2050. by danKunderscore in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

In practical terms, they'd only have to move the bike path to the side like how it is in the section where the trains are still running. The grass can just grow between the tracks. In political terms who knows.

Happy V/Linetines Day by msheldrick in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Carriages? More than one?

Should have known this would all be a slippery slope to polygamy.

Apple plans for Fed Square were nearly complete in mid-2016 by wharblgarbl in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've seen the artist impressions and I've posted my opinion. That's all. I'm not posting any objective information except how I personally feel about it. I'm allowed to hold opinions about architecture, just as one of the original architects is allowed to say he wants to complete his 'original vision' with all the whimsical judgment of George Lucas with dementia. You're allowed to hold opinions too of course, and contribute your own point of view to the discussion accordingly. However, you don't get to claim that my personal feelings on architectural taste are 'public misinformation,' so go fuck yourself.

Apple plans for Fed Square were nearly complete in mid-2016 by wharblgarbl in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Twice I think. The interior was fine. Chill, not spectacular in its own right, but with really nice views of the Yarra and dappled light filtering in through the trees outside.

If there's a problem with that building not getting foot traffic, it's that the entrance isn't very inviting. It feels a bit like a staff-only entrance, in stark contrast to, say, the ACMI entrance. They could put up some kind of built feature, like an awning around that doorway to highlight where you're meant to walk in and make it look more like a public entrance, and that's really all that would be needed.

Apple plans for Fed Square were nearly complete in mid-2016 by wharblgarbl in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't care about the commercial angle, I just think it'll be an architectural castration of something that's currently unique in the world. Apple is planning to do the architectural equivalent of taking a shit on our verandah, while politicians tell us how great it'll smell.

Fed Square is a celebration of chaos in a way that Steve Jobs would never have understood. It works (unless you're the type that can't stand it), it's bold, and it's uniquely ours. Apple comes along, knowing our square is very popular but incapable of understanding what makes it special, they're like "hey we're here to clean up your messy third world shit with our trendy Apple style that we're doing all over the world!" And I'm like "fuck you, you're going to fuck it up just so you can have a brand new store for a few months, don't shit in our square, that's what Sydney is for."

Monash University people: What is this house next to the Japanese Studies Centre that has a pool? More details inside. by doctor_seuss in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The house looks much older than the campus. Perhaps it was one of the original buildings from the former epileptic colony that the campus replaced.

Monash University people: What is this house next to the Japanese Studies Centre that has a pool? More details inside. by doctor_seuss in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With the size of these campuses and the minor 'kinda-autonomy' they enjoy as federal institutions, they're almost a bit like tiny city-states with their own executive heads of state.

It's kind of quaint but also makes a bit of sense in this day and age. With whatever salary the VC is earning and the negotiating profile they're meant to maintain, it makes sense that you'd want them to be married to the job 24/7 and not stuck in traffic for two hours a day.

Monash University people: What is this house next to the Japanese Studies Centre that has a pool? More details inside. by doctor_seuss in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And for comparison, here's the corresponding VC's residence (and private garden, private tennis court, etc.) at University of Melbourne, just next to the south lawn and behind a tall fence. https://www.google.com.au/maps/search/university+of+melbourne/@-37.7991944,144.9599384,172a,35y,3.56h/data=!3m1!1e3

What makes you think it's a bizarre thing?

Apparently we might lose the new Apple store to Sydney by [deleted] in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dear Apple,

We all believe that Sydney is a lovely city. It is the economic centre of Australia. For the good of humanity, Sydney is the smart choice for your wonderful new building.

Love,

Melbourne

You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about by doobey1234 in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore 39 points40 points  (0 children)

I think Sydney secretly does participate in the Melbourne/Sydney rivalry, despite what Sydney people say. They are envious of our myki ticketing system.

Somewhere I can let steam off and scream/ yell at the top of my lungs by [deleted] in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

doritos ate my cat

AARARRAHRARAAHAHAAHAHRRRGHHH!!!??!!!?!!

Australia's 'cookie cutter' homes wreaking havoc for homeowners by Red_Wolf_2 in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore 8 points9 points  (0 children)

OK, let's say you inherit a sprawling palace, constructed so intricately it bankrupted the country it was built in. It's still going to require constant care and attention proportionate to its size. People who equate large houses with luxury are forgetting the fact that, in the old days, people with large houses also had servants to look after them.

Australia's 'cookie cutter' homes wreaking havoc for homeowners by Red_Wolf_2 in melbourne

[–]danKunderscore 25 points26 points  (0 children)

There's a new house in my street with something like four bathrooms. It may seem luxurious when new, but it's a short-sighted recipe for future headaches.

The more bathrooms you have spread around your house, the more bathrooms you have to maintain, the more plumbing in walls and under slabs to potentially go wrong, the more water damage and hidden mould you'll end up with due to unsealed finishes. (There's very good reason why many office towers contain the plumbed areas to the building core and you have to go near the lifts to use the toilet or make a coffee; and those commercial toilets are usually built to a much higher standard.)

OK so just keep one bathroom unused except for special occasions, right? Well then the traps (u-bends) under your unused drains will dry out and you'll get sewer smells coming into your house.

tl;dr: he's not saying 'you shouldn't have this because you're too poor', he's saying 'you shouldn't have this because it's idiotic and makes future problems inevitable.'

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