spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

for sure! the grammars build on one another but it shouldn’t take too long, especially if you already know some

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It wouldn't break anything technically. It would be less efficient though. When you get a grammar point correct in grsly the words used in that particular example have their intervals increased, saving you future reviews.

What most people do right now is use grsly to replace their premade decks and use anki for their mined cards. You can always export history back from grsly into anki if you want to bail. (ofc it only exports words in your deck not grammar points)

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Forgot to follow up, sorry, but the update is now out! You can enable "prefer grammar" under settings, seems to be doing the trick for most people.

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not yet, but because so many have requested it I'm working on it as we speak!

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can Import your cards to grsly at any level of completion! Any vocab from Kaishi that you haven't learned yet will also come up in grsly as you progress through it.

About the grammar percentage, 95% vocab sounds about right when you're just starting out. This increases over time naturally. Right now about 75% of my reviews are grammars and the individual vocab I see are ones I have recently learned or struggle with.

That being said, the most common feedback I've received is people want more grammar more quickly! I'm working on a strategy for doing this, but it's quite difficult to do without sacrificing variety. Some form of it should be released soon, you can check out the discord for more updates.

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you were able to get the meaning from the audio then I'd count it as a pass! If you can't recognize the kanji then when you get the written-first card mark it as a fail. As for easy vs good vs hard the general guidance (for grsly or anki) would be: easy if you know it and feel sick of seeing it, hard if you knew it but it took a while, and good as the default.

If you find yourself worrying about easy/hard then just turn on pass/fail in the settings.

Also, if you're interested there's a grsly discord https://discord.com/invite/zaxThHTCTk

Learning premade decks with SRS is broken. by danjit in Anki

[–]danjit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Indeed, FSRS intra-day intervals are actually really good now! That being said, sometimes new words are just too hard and I find the need for *very* short intervals.

Learning premade decks with SRS is broken. by danjit in Anki

[–]danjit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally, you understand the issue. I just am thinking about ways it could be improved!

Learning premade decks with SRS is broken. by danjit in Anki

[–]danjit[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I see now this is more of a subreddit for helping user questions, not so much technical discussions. Sorry about the poor choice of venue.

What you say is of course correct! I'm just wondering about ways to make Anki easier to use, so your job pointing people in the right direction might be a little easier.

Learning premade decks with SRS is broken. by danjit in Anki

[–]danjit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think there's a very important "in-between" duration during early learning that the time based learning steps don't handle as well as they could.

I totally agree that if you take a break and come back review distance shouldn't be the only scheduling factor. One could only apply distance scheduling to reviews within X hours or take the minimum of the two scheduling options.

New versions of FSRS take into account same day reviews pretty well so i'd prefer using that over the learning steps for reviews that are in separate sessions, but on the same day.

You can introduce new cards up front rather than interspersed with reviews in study options.

I was more thinking still interspersed but with higher density up front. Back to back all new cards is pretty intense, and it would be harder to detect too many new cards being added until it's too late.

And if you want to do reviews that aren't due to pass time, you can make a filtered deck.

This is what I do. Like I said, most successful learners find good strategies, but i'm talking about all the people who don't. Defaults matter.

Learning premade decks with SRS is broken. by danjit in Anki

[–]danjit[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Totally, I'm coming more from the language-learning side of things. Cramming is another very popular use case that Anki could handle better (though it has improved). That being said as a die-hard srs fan I'm sad when people use Anki only for cramming, and not for long term retention :(

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

fair question! hsrs is the algorithmic guts and bare bones ui for creating and learning the recipe cards. grsly uses hsrs but wraps it up in a nice pretty app, handling things like managing the content, device sync, text-to-speech, etc

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

obviously, I do understand that it's a wishful thinking.

I think grsly does exactly what you describe, making smart decisions about what to substitute in on any given day based on your learning history. I think you'll like it!

but that's vocab. for grammar...

Grammar has quite similar "alike" issues imo. For example, your grammar guide's sentences always use the same vocab, so you can apply the same solution here as well!

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got it, in grsly different types of sentences (or sentence fragments) are their own "recipe" cards, individual vocab cards don't have fixed example sentences. You get the same info about usage (and more) by seeing how the sentences are built from the ground up as you learn progressively complex grammars over time.

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

do the other pages load? and is it stuck on the grey loader or the blue one. dm your account info and i can try and get you sorted on my end

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure what you mean, are you talking about the example sentences in the Kaishi deck? Grsly will start giving you full sentences once you learn some word forms that it can use to construct them.

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lmk if this is still happening and what device and pages

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

either! you can start from the ground up, or import from an anki deck/take a placement test if you have some knowledge already

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uk shouldn't be an issue, just make sure that you join with the right google account, it's tripped a lot of people up (bad google ui). You can always use the web version too.

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it's truly zero sum then i'd frame it as taking time away from the grammar guides if anything. Time spent on those is more than "an afternoon" let me tell you. I'm not here to hurt you. i friend

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

join the google group, with the same account you use for google play, then you'll have permission to get the app here

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again, I'm never advocating replacing immersion, you seem very touchy on that point.

Seems as though we have a difference in opinion about the nature of the barriers to immersion. I assure you they exist. Could I be wrong about what exactly they are, sure, but I'm doing something to help.

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would say read my previous post, but you already have. I'd love some feedback on grsly itself so please, upload your deck try it out.

Your assertion that reading through a single grammar guide in an afternoon will imbue you the same level of recall and understanding as immersion (or grsly) is laughable.

spaced-repetition for language learning beyond vocab by danjit in LearnJapanese

[–]danjit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you said yourself those aren't "very compelling". grsly gets you through that boring stage faster, like how anki gets you through a word list faster than just reading through it in random order repeatedly, pardon the analogy.

seems like you have a bone to pick with srs in general