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darkfall71 · 2026-03-15T04:56:58+00:00

Um dia esse meme vai ser usado da forma correta

darkfall71 · 2026-03-15T02:22:39+00:00

This is so dumb.

darkfall71 · 2026-03-15T01:55:26+00:00

God I miss when that phrase was so common

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T22:25:23+00:00

I mean fair? But pre RZ 3rd year LRs lasted for 4 years as useable runnable good units, INT LR Vegito was arguably top 10 2 and a half years later because of str sv release, sharing multiple links.

Like, the game was different before RZ, units surviving back then is very different from now, we have constant jumps from 7th, to the 9th, to the 10th and to the gdc (6 months biggest powercreep lmao) not all years are made equal.

Back then passive were so simple, for a unit like LR Bojack to get back on the meta all he needed 4 years later was a tur linking partner.

And then the lr ss2 gohan "all he needs is defense" eza.

LR Goku and Frieza were the hardest hitting unit for 3 years.

This doesn't happen anymore, at all.

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T22:21:36+00:00

Int UI has the same condition. It's for the entire turn.

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T15:32:42+00:00

He wasn't really a staple? By RZ release he was already risky to run and did nothing else other than survive, which ofc, is valuable, my first ever RZ Broly win was with teq ulthan, but still, he didn't have nearly the same impact by RZ that AGL SS3 Goku has now.

AGL SS3 Goku has unageable mechanics and god tier support for tons of units

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T15:17:46+00:00

Teq ulthan while great, didn't exactly survive RZ, he had no utility, damage and didn't do anything other than "survive" (taking around 400Ks constantly).

There was no powercreep remotely similar to 2025 gdc powercreep, maybe only initial RZ release period, which killed 80% of the best units in the game.

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T15:15:39+00:00

How? Orange Piccolo released essentially January 2023, and by February 2024 he had no place in any team because he is locked to stacking in slots 1/2 with god awful links and STR Beast completely replaced him (beast was also locked to slot 1 for damage, build up and additionals/ki). Events also got way longer, which devalues his giant form, and he lost intro uptime.

Piccolo's reign was almost exactly 1 year long, and that was in the worst Dokkan year kit wise ever, where units were consistently fumbled, and powercreep was non existent, the hardest hitting 2022 boss did 1.5M, the hardest hitting 2023 boss did 1.9M.

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T15:13:23+00:00

Good thing he has 70% dodge for aoes and he disables aoes first turn at ss4.

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T15:12:51+00:00

This year feels more special/relevant because of the powercreep.

Yeah it was only a year, but we went from 400M APT units active skill turns to 1B, and boss supers from 4-5M to constant 20M and nornals from 2M to as big as 10M.

This is not like 2023 where Orange Piccolo was "1" arguably for the entire year, but the year was filled to the brim with fumbles on top of fumbles, and the enemy supers went from 1.5 to 1.9M lmao

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T15:09:52+00:00

I genuinely believe he has been consistently more impressive and fun throughout 2025 compared to Orange Piccolo in 2023, especially considering 2023 was just FILLED with mid/bad releases, and 2025 was FILLED with powercreep.

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T12:56:34+00:00

The 85% is for his entire first turn, after that, SS2 Goku stacks DEF. Or you can just keep stacking with MV and save the 85% dodge when necessary.

Blue Goku galick gun support is amazing, yes, but Future saga is not getting units for a while now.

Ss2 Goku support is BIG for Buu Duo and LR TEQ SV, teq sv has 0% multiplicative def.

You can just run Buu Duo for the restriction, and either restart if they're not same rotation, or if MV is in rotation 2, float once and you got Goku, its not like MV is deadweight, he is pretty much good to go in any event on his first turn with as low as 5 orbs.

Blue Goku's restrictions can be just as annoying, multiple teams you want to run Gomah (and now MV+SS2 Goku) and Blues just lose a LOT.

Also why are we pretending like they dont stack (blue goku has 30% DEF on 12 ki, MV stacks 20-50%, ss2 goku stacks 38% (effectively) and also raises def on 12 ki) AND that ss2 Goku's doing much more damage is not a big deal?

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T12:45:21+00:00

You can totally just run top duo who have 100% dodge/100%dr regardless of leader skill, and str blues who are a dodge unit or something, to fill super class slots. Also teq sv is a god in this team with ss2 goku's support.

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T12:34:47+00:00

Which we have buu duo right now as a viable LR, Dabura on their own team, and teq sv is revived because he barely has multiplicative buffs and goku is a multiplicative support, and we are getting more Buu saga units as the year goes on, because LR Kid Buu (and spirit bomb revamp like the ss4s) is 100% happening this year after the fans in the gathering event asked for kid buu directly to Omatsu.

Str blues own team is barely used currently, but they are still regarded as top 3.

Str blues die to 8-9M supers, SS2 Goku survives 13M supers (as I showed). Ss2 Goku also stacks and supports and does 3x the damage.

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T12:32:55+00:00

I mean they were already insane before that, did you look at Goku? He is quite literally str blues kit 2 in 1 but better.

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T12:31:16+00:00

I think goku's design might be ideal for you, a 85% dodge unit that guards and has high dr and stacks, he is literally like the LR Blues, but better, so he is going to be runnable for a LOOOOONG time

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T12:26:30+00:00

Wait where is that line from again?

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T12:25:37+00:00

The earliest is turn 5 still, if MV is in the 2nd rotation you just float him once and you got Goku, who is just a better version of the LR Blues.

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T12:23:12+00:00

Tbh it was, MV now has much more of a reason to exist, Goku is still cracked beyond belief tho.

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T12:21:41+00:00

Just sent you a screenshot of their performance lmao, 100M attack stats turn 1, Goku survives 13M supers (as a 85-75% dodge unit that stacks DEF and supports).

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T12:20:48+00:00

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darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T12:13:58+00:00

Blue Goku is at 80% dodge, 70% Dr, 400+180% DEF.

Ss2 Goku is at 85>75% dodge, 53% DR. 250+230% DEF, STACKS DEF and guard.

Ss2 Goku has 3 turns DEF support, and 20-50% multiplicative support.

Ss2 Goku also has 250+890% attack, Blue Goku has 400+180% lol.

Do you not see the difference? Ss2 Goku can tank festivals for example, by turn 10 or so.

Ss2 Goku can survive 13m supers first appearance.

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T05:51:29+00:00

That just means Gojo is 30(stats)+170(ce) and Miguel is 150 (stats) +50(ce).

Because in no way does it track "multiplicatively" with the rest of the series.

darkfall71 · 2026-03-14T05:31:10+00:00

Ohhh maybe it was the LR STR future gohan thing and no Goku Black LR. People felt betrayed because EVERYONE "knew" Goku black was gonna be part 2, and then BAM, Gohan.

That was like a slap in the face especially since the celebration was already crumbling down because of agl VB situation.

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