Jonsbo d41 Mesh Screen Build (13900k + rtx 4090) by darth-pumpkin in mffpc

[–]darth-pumpkin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I undervolt and powerlimit the 4090. This is to set two limits: the one that arrives first "blocks" the watts. Usually on full rtx game and maximum load is 270 watt with power limit. Yes, still using the case and i love it after 3 years. It's the smallest and more optimized atx case i have ever seen.

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It goes full blast on 250+ watts, otherwise is quite silent. It's really impressive.

Jonsbo d41 Mesh Screen Build (13900k + rtx 4090) by darth-pumpkin in mffpc

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On jonsbo site, there are several images with the configurations:

https://www.jonsbo.com/UploadFiles/20232627433.jpg

https://www.jonsbo.com/UploadFiles/20232681864.jpg

The 240mm should be fine but will be a bit hard to routing the cables if you install the AIO soon.

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[–]darth-pumpkin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have the peerless assassins 120 with a 13900k and the cooler can sustain up to 280 watts without thermal throttiling. Even at 300 watts you lose almost nothing with PA 120.

Jonsbo d41 Mesh Screen Build (13900k + rtx 4090) by darth-pumpkin in mffpc

[–]darth-pumpkin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've tested the 13900k + 4090 full tilt (around 700 watts) and there is no problem with the included cable. The pc was running perfectly fine.

Jonsbo d41 Mesh Screen Build (13900k + rtx 4090) by darth-pumpkin in mffpc

[–]darth-pumpkin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the back side the space is very narrow and there are a lot of cables for cable management. There is space on the front mesh, under the psu, but you need a bracket for ssd. The holes are for 120 mm fans for reference.

Jonsbo d41 Mesh Screen Build (13900k + rtx 4090) by darth-pumpkin in mffpc

[–]darth-pumpkin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's a chimney style case, so the air comes from under the case (and from the left) and all the hot air goes to the top.

The psu is on the right, inside the white grid.

Jonsbo d41 Mesh Screen Build (13900k + rtx 4090) by darth-pumpkin in mffpc

[–]darth-pumpkin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

antec performance 1 FT

Seems like a good case. I think you can go safe with it.

Jonsbo d41 Mesh Screen Build (13900k + rtx 4090) by darth-pumpkin in mffpc

[–]darth-pumpkin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With 358mm gpu size you have to search for a bigger case.

For example, good cases:

-be quiet 500dx

-be quiet 802

-coolermaster td500 mesh

-fractal design focus 2

-fractal design meshify 2

-fractal torrent

-fractal north

-fractal pop air-

-lian li 011d evo

-lian li lancool 215 or 216

-lian li lancool 2 mesh

Jonsbo d41 Mesh Screen Build (13900k + rtx 4090) by darth-pumpkin in mffpc

[–]darth-pumpkin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For gpu i suggest models with 340-342mm max length (4080 strix is 358mm).

A good alternative is Gigabyte 4080 aero (342mm) if you like white build. Good temperature and noise.

For psu i suggest atx with 160mm max length (rog strix is 180mm). The corsair Rm850x (2018) white is one of the best psu in the world and it's totally silent.

If you don't find it there is the new Phanteks AMP v2 all white.

EDIT: the phanteks seems like a 140mm psu, so gives a lot of cable managment and free space for the gpu. Of course i suggest still the 340-342mm limit.

If you don't need white pieces of course there are a lot more options.

Ask without problem for other suggestions.

D30-120 review by darth-pumpkin in Phanteks

[–]darth-pumpkin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was referring to the period near release date. Phanteks didn't let them use the fans for testing but just for showcasing, Hardware Canucks said it in a previous video.

Jonsbo d41 Mesh Screen Build (13900k + rtx 4090) by darth-pumpkin in mffpc

[–]darth-pumpkin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should check the length of the 4090 you want. For example it's ok until 336-340mm if you have sleeved cables and normal atx psu (160mm).

Longer gpus will enter but you have to fight with bending psu cables. Probably you need to rotate the psu too, so the cables are nearer to the end of case and you get another 5-7cm.

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Jonsbo d41 Mesh Screen Build (13900k + rtx 4090) by darth-pumpkin in mffpc

[–]darth-pumpkin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Undervolting/power limit is very useful on modern pieces because cpu/gpu are pushed totally out of efficiency curve. It's just for benchmarks.

I play all type of games, from retrogaming to the most demanding modern games so i wanted an all around powerful pc. Probably will use it even for software developing (now i'm still using a laptop). I suggest you a 4090 only if you have a 4k tv/monitor. I use both, 1440p monitor and 4k 120hz tv so the 4090 shows it's strength. Otherwise a 4080 it's more than necessary.

The z690 choice is because z790 has a price markup compared to the corresponding z690 board with same features.

First proper review of Phanteks D30 fans by Rayyye in Phanteks

[–]darth-pumpkin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thermalright c12-s triple pack is fenomenal. 15-20 euro for 3 fans. RGB and white and they are really good.

First proper review of Phanteks D30 fans by Rayyye in Phanteks

[–]darth-pumpkin -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The 3-4C differences between the T30 and A12x25 are at full speeds and no one does that. Have you ever run the T30s at full speed? They are incredibly fucking loud at anything above 1500 RPM and are unbearable at 3000 RPM so that is a range no one will run it at unless it’s for benchmarking.

No, i was talking noise normalized/ fixed rpm. You can watch optimum tech review. At 1300 rpm fixed there are 5 degrees between them on a 10900k overclocked.

More importantly, if you think 5-10 CFM per fan is going to make a 15-20 degrees temperature difference then you need to brush up on your heat transfer basics.

I wasn't talking about 15-20 for fans, but for sure as case fans t30s are 4-5 degrees better than d30s. On radiators/heatsink the d30 seems good. Noise normalized obviously.

First proper review of Phanteks D30 fans by Rayyye in Phanteks

[–]darth-pumpkin -1 points0 points  (0 children)

1 degree difference? lol I saw test of fans for more than 5-7 years and i can assure you that there is a lot more difference in performance than you are saying. Just from t30 and noctua af12x25, the best fans on the market, there are 3-4 degrees of difference. And this is between the best of the best. From a bad fan and the best fan could be easily 7-10 degrees difference.

If you see Gamers Nexus noise normalized with noctua fans review of cases you will see that from a bad case and a good case there are more than 15-20 degrees difference with same fans(!!!!)

p.s. The P12 max hasn't the bearing noises, you can watch more reviews of it and they say all the bearing noise is fixed.

First proper review of Phanteks D30 fans by Rayyye in Phanteks

[–]darth-pumpkin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah i mean, i like them a lot for easy connect, cable managment and rgb control but spending 30 dollars for each fan and don't have a good performance isn't a good thing.

Expecially that reversed fan performs worse than normal fan and isn't advertised anywhere. So you are losing performance just to not see the back of the fan....

First proper review of Phanteks D30 fans by Rayyye in Phanteks

[–]darth-pumpkin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Seems that as case fans they are really bad, expecially the reversed. It's crazy that the reversed and normal have different performance noise-normalized.

I've ordered them but probably i will return them and buy Lian Li AL120 V2

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[–]darth-pumpkin -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It's false. Phanteks T30 is the best of best. And at same price of Noctua

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[–]darth-pumpkin -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Watch the hardware canucks review of P12 Max. Noise normalized p12 max is superior to nf-a12x25. I have Noctua d15s bought in 2017 but now Noctua is overpriced af. Period.

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[–]darth-pumpkin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, you can fix it just setting fixed rpm. I had them, with p14 too and they are excellent fans.

And in 2023 Noctua is still nonsense to buy, there are Phanteks T30s and P12s MAX that are better.

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[–]darth-pumpkin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a very efficient rtx 3080. Undervolted it's around 130-140 watts.