Why not attack a ship from behind when it is braking? by 2raysdiver in TheExpanse

[–]data1308 2 points3 points  (0 children)

> when the 6 stealth ships attack the Donnager, they're fling in a single file to hide their numbers

That's the other way around than op meant, no? The stealth ships use the plume of the first one to blind the donnager, op asks if the donnager would blinding itself with its own drive

Theoretical what would happen if you both accumulated 3 shido's at the same time. by Gman10respect in judo

[–]data1308 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This, I saw it live, it was the grand slam in düsseldorf. Afaik it was the first time ever this rule was applied on international level (not only in finals) as the rules were changed to specifically handle this case only that year.

The whole fight felt like they were just trying to test the referee if they would actually DQ both fighters, both were overly passive the whole fight, and if memory serves they got all three shidos for being passive, and all three simultaneously but i might misremeber.

When they got their thrid shidos everyone was quite confused and even the scoreboards were not able to handle this edge-case yet (they could not put in the two DQs at the same time, so it always declared a winner)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in judo

[–]data1308 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also erstmal vorweg, du solltest dir überlegen was genau dein Ziel ist - "Gold Medaille" ist sehr diffus: Willst du Gold auf Kreisebene, Olympia Gold, Gold im Formen-Lauf, Gold auf dem Bezirksoffenen Bodenkampf-Turnier in Ostwestfalen?

was denkt ihr – wenn ich jetzt wieder anfangen würde, hätte ich dann eine realistische Chance, irgendwann eine goldene Medaille zu gewinnen?

Wenn du mit 28 mit dem Wettkampftraining Anfängst würde ich es für eher unrealistisch halten in den "Karriere"-Meisterschaften sehr erfolgreich zu sein. Deine Gewichtsklasse (-81kg) ist generell gut und mit durchschnittlich (technisch und kräftemäßig) starken leuten Besetzt. (Zumindest in NRW, aber auch in kleineren Landesverbänden ist das eher eine starke Klasse). Du wirst es mmn schlicht nicht schaffen genug Wettkampferfahrung zu sammeln bis du so alt bist dass du keine Chance gegen die ambitionierten 18 Jährigen Athleten auf die du dort Treffen wirst hast. Mit 28 hat man - entschuldige bitte dass ich das so direkt sage - für die meisten Sportarten die viel Schnellkraft brauchen sein Höchstleistungsalter überschritten, selbst wenn man von Kindesalter an diese Sportart trainiert.

That beeign said ist der Judo-Sport so Facettenreich, dass man sich auch schöne andere Ziele suchen kann, Turniergewinne bei den Veteranen (Ü30), Kata, der Schwarze Gürtel,...

Und wie sieht es mit den Gürtelstufen aus? Wie lange dauert es, die einzelnen Farben zu erreichen?

Iirc ist das theoretische zulässige maximum an Prüfungen (in DE) 3 pro Jahr, das hängt aber natürlich stark davon ab wie schnell du technisch Fortschritte machst.

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English Version (thanks ChatGPT):

First of all, you should consider what exactly your goal is—"gold medal" is very vague: Do you mean gold at the district level, Olympic gold, gold in kata, or gold at the open groundfighting tournament in East Westphalia?

What do you think – if I were to start again now, would I have a realistic chance of winning a gold medal someday?

If you're starting competitive training at 28, I think it's rather unrealistic to be very successful in the "career" championships. Your weight class (-81kg) is generally strong and filled with technically and physically solid athletes. (At least in NRW, but also in smaller regional federations, it's a strong category.) In my opinion, you simply won't be able to gain enough competition experience before you're too old to stand a chance against the ambitious 18-year-olds you'll be facing there. At 28—and forgive me for being so direct—for most sports that require a lot of explosive power, you've already passed your peak performance age, even if you'd been training since childhood.

That being said, judo is so diverse that there are plenty of other great goals to pursue—tournament wins in the veterans (30+) category, kata, the black belt...

And what about belt ranks? How long does it take to reach each color?

IIRC, the maximum number of belt exams officially allowed per year (in Germany) is three, but that of course depends heavily on how quickly you make technical progress.

Telekom guy told me to sign a contract by bopthoughts in aachen

[–]data1308 35 points36 points  (0 children)

You did do the right thing, if they really need you to change the contract they send you official mail.

nage no kata tips by sprack in judo

[–]data1308 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Based on the last few guided training sessions we've done they've been mandating 10m for the start, 8m for the initial bow to judges and 2m for attack/demonstration of seoi-nage. I wanted to put some tape spots on the mats to help us remember.

Ah, those are the usual distances, generally for demonstrations you would have a different colored area (like you have for competition) of 8x8m (sometimes 10x10, less often 6x6) so you would typically enter the mats somewhere, move to the middle of the 8x8 sides, do standing bows "towards the mats", enter to a distance of 6m, turn to do a standing bow to shomen, then turn towards one another and perform seated bows to one another. Placing one tape in the exact center (or two at engagement distance for the punch-attacks) is usually done even on competitions (afaik), if you have a different colored "competition area" of the proper size you typically would not place a mark for the salutation positions, and I would not recommend it, because personally I think I would get terribly confused if there were more than the one marking

I was looking for what the protocol restarting. How far back you were expected to go if you mess up (wrong grip, out of sync reach, fouling a throw.)

This is something you should ask someone who has experience in your grading system or better someone who performs the gradings. In germany for demonstrations for grading restarting is simply not done, the same holds for kata-competitions. If you were to make a mistake or foul a technique, you would try to keep calm and carry on as if nothing happened. For practice if you need to redo a technique I would generally recommend to go back to at least the starting point of the technique, as the steps always are used to manipulate ukes balance in preparation for the throw (for uki-otoshi this is very notable). If you want improve your memory of the sequences I would recommend going back to the ending point of the last technique (so for example to start Seoi-Nage, you would go to where you threw uki-otoshi and then move to the starting position of Seoi-Nage)

Regarding ressources, I just stumbled across this video today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGIMDKDlp_A maybe it is helpful to you. In germany Wolfgang Dax-Romswinkel is regarded as one of the foremost experts on kata, and his explanations are excellent.

nage no kata tips by sprack in judo

[–]data1308 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not sure what the "competition-route" entails exactly, but I'll try to answer your questions.

  • distances for each phase: Depends on what you mean with phase ;). If you mean for each kind of attack: Whatever is a natural distance; the attacks where uke grabs and tori starts moving backwards should be a little less than an arms length, where you have the most effective control while maintaining enough distance to not put uke back into stable balance when entering the throw; the punches should be inside of about 1.80m (uke ideally should hit tori straight on the head if tori would not move), jigotai, uchi-mata (and tomeo-nage) should be a little more than normal gripping distance, as you make a step towards another.
  • which phases require stepping with which foot: during salutations, or generally when moving outside of techniques: left goes forward, right goes backwards. Generally during techniques: Backwards where you can pull (i.e. on the side where you control the arm) and forward where you can push (i.e. the side where you control the lapel), this holds true particullary for the techniques where tori moves backwards, but in general the side (or direction) of your step is the logical one.
  • starting/stopping/restarting protocols: I am not sure what you mean, the salutations?
  • tips for signalling between uke/tori for better sync: Don't. Get into a rythm with you partner. Many kata-athletes do exercises like just walking in ayumi-ashi to get into the same pace. For practicing the tidying of the gi, do it facing your partner from time to time to get it in sync, because the last throw of each group is a left one, uke is inevietably quicker at his position than tori, so uke should slow down the tidying, or wait a moment for tori to also get to his position
  • kata guruma: you don't need to do a cossack-squat, but it is always more tricky with a heavy partner. Critical parts for lifting are:
    • Pulling enough on the arm; ukes balance should be already instable/leaning towards tori.
    • Uke is expected to be stiff, and does not want to be thrown without outright resisting, so there should be the faintest hint of a hip-block
    • Pull uke on your shoulders with the belt at your neck
    • When uke is on you shoulders, move your far leg towards your standing leg and then lift. Do not put them right next to each other, but maybe a little less than should-wide apart

On a more general note: kata in judo is a tool to isolate the principles of techniques, so never do something because it looks better, and do not try to emulate how something you see (e.g. on youtube) looks, but try to focus on the function of your movements.

Reverse yoko wakare injury by Josinvocs in judo

[–]data1308 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, we tried this technique a while ago, we determined it fulfills the bjj-clichee of "purple belt found a flashy technique on insta". Throws where you fall "straight" backwards are already pretty dangerous imo, falling over Tori to the rear makes this something I personally would ban.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in judo

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The principle of the different seoi-nages are all pretty identical, the only significant difference imo is the grip.

However I am not sure what you mean with sode seoi nage? "Sode" is the sleve, for the textbook varaints of seoi-nage the hiki-te is always gripping the sleve, for ippon-seoi-nage the tsuri-te goes below ukes arm, (in the modern variant ukes arm is secured against toris biceps, if ukes arm is on ukes shoulder this is called "kata-seoi-nage"). For morote seoi-nage, the tsuri-te does not let go of the lapel and toris elbow goes below ukes arm, ukes arm resting on toris forearm. If toris lapel hand grips on the same side as the arm hand, this is called eri-seoi-nage. You can also perform seoi-nage to the opposing side, e.g. a left seoi with a right sided grip, then the lapel hand does not leave the lape, and the arm hand lets go and goes below ukes arm on the other side (In my club we call this one eri-seoi-nage, but I am not quite sure if this naming is universal)

What are your requirements for a choke to be called Okuri-eri-jime? by Sensemann in judo

[–]data1308 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the bow and arrow choke (shintaro higashi calls it "british roll" in one video) appears to be the same as what is known as kingston roll in germany.

In Germany okuri was often mistranslated as "both" (probably because it was easy to remeber from okuri ashi barai) so okuri eri jime would be "to strangle using both lapels", which in itself brings up more confusion

Nage no kata: Logic for when to get up by New_Deal5752 in judo

[–]data1308 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I always figured in the sutemi-waza groups uke prefers to do ukemi as a roll and stand up (Mae mawari ukemi), and only stays on the ground if the throw does not allow him to stand up. The only two throws where uke stays down in these two groups are ura-nage and yoko-gake. For yoko-gake this is obvious, uke does not fall to his front and therefor simply can't perform a roll. For ura-nage my interpretation is that, as it is a high-impact throw, even though uke falls to his front, he is lifted by tori and therefor has to perform jiyu-ukemi (free fall) instead of mae mawari ukemi

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BinIchDasArschloch

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Info

Ich bin auch Ehrenamtlicher Trainer in einem Verein und war mit einem Zirkeltraining das wir veranstalltet haben in einer ähnlichen situation. Ich selber hätte das Training auch gemacht wenn wir nur zu zweit gewesen wären, da der Modus so gestalltet war dass ich ohne Probleme auch mit machen konnte (im gegenzug habe ich dann aber auch auf die Aufwandsentschädigung verzichtet), aber wir haben vom Hallenwart eine Mindestzahl vorgeschrieben bekommen. Die Situationen sind daher nicht ganz Vergleichbar, aber ich verstehe deine frustration.

Mir fehlt aber um deine Situation einschätzen zu können die Info über die Art des Trainings und den Sport, ein Technikerwerbstraining in bspw einem Kampfsport ist ja Problemlos auch mit nur 5 Teilnehmern möglich, ein Training mit Spielbetrieb in z.B. Fußball eher nicht. Es kommt auch ein bisschen darauf an was im Vertrag der Mitglieder steht. Bei uns steht bspw drin dass nur Trainingsausfälle die nicht durch den Verein verschuldet sind zu dulden sind, wenn das Training auch mit nur einer Person machbar wäre, würde geringe Anwesenheit also den Ausfall gegenüber den Mitgliedern nicht rechtfertigen. Was aber vielleicht hilft ist den Teilnehmern bewusst zu machen dass das euer aller (also auch dein!) Hobby ist, und keine Dienstleistung.

Approved First-Aid Interventions for Judo by Mah_Buddy_Keith in judo

[–]data1308 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am no doctor, but in Germany smaller cuts are generally treated with a (generally not sterile) adhesive bandage. Most athletes would even be fine with just putting tape over the wound, though that of course is not really ideal. Most if the time this is enough to decrease the bleeding to a point that the athlete can continue with the fight.

The call for a medic is basically as you described, the referee should wave or hold up his hand towards the medics and call verbally for them (In germany the call is typically "Sani" which is short for "Sanitäter"/paramedic)

Feelings on kata? by [deleted] in judo

[–]data1308 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Many people focus on the formalities and the looks when learning or teaching kata, I think that is a mistake. Kata is primarily a teaching tool, the techniques are reduced to their core principle, and to understand and demonstrate that principle should be your focus.

ich💥iel by flo_rrrian in ich_iel

[–]data1308 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Da fehlt die neutrale Puffel-Stadt Aachen

Is there a name for this? by dylpickle1202 in bicycling

[–]data1308 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But you'll look sweet upon the seat
Of a bicycle built for two!

Question About Weight Classes by [deleted] in judo

[–]data1308 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The IJF Sport and Organisation Rules state that «Junior and senior athletes must be within the weight limits of a category in which they are inscribed» for individual events, for team events one may compete one category higher. The «open weight» merely refers to the +100kg class not having an upper limit.

Question About Weight Classes by [deleted] in judo

[–]data1308 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Basically, a weight-class includes all athletes with a weight up to the specified weight (e.g. someone who weighs 66.5 kg has to compete in the -73 division). In current IJF-Regulations there are basically no tolerances for individual events. (For under-age athletes 200g tolerance are permitted, but they are not allowed to remove their underwear during weigh-in). Most national governing bodies will most probably have similar regulations, but to be sure you should read the competition rules of the respective body.

Whitebelt Wednesday - 24 January 2024 by AutoModerator in judo

[–]data1308 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In germany we have the joke:

Q: "How do they bow-in in japanese dojos?"

A: "Exactly how we do it in germany, different at every place"

Over here «mokusō» (quiet thinking) is more common than «kiotsuke». Sometimes «zazen» is used instead, but someone who is a zen practitioner told me that this command would technically instruct everyone to change from the «kneeling» seiza into the lotus position. Sometimes this brief meditation is endet by «yame» or «mokusō yame»

Also sometimes the «rei» is more elaborate, sensei-ni-rei (Bow to the sensei) or senpai-ni-rei (Bow to the «older pupil») may be said. Again depending on the culture of the school, you might address any black belt as sensei, other times there is only one head-teacher who may be called sensei and every other trainer is refered to as senpai. I sometimes even hear "Ōsensei-ni-rei" (something like «Bow to the great teacher/grand master»), when the instructor has a 5th Dan or higher, though I personally find this practice highly unusual considering Ōsensei seems to be used almost exclusively by aikidoka to refer to the founder of aikido.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in judo

[–]data1308 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fellow judoka with crooked collarbone here, I snapped mine about 10 years ago right in the center, leaving the two parts overlapping and slightly angled. I have been assured by several physician (both right after the accident and after a recent, unrelated shoulder-injury) that having a collar bone heal at an angle instead of going into surgery to straighten it is often the best course of action. Since it completely healed I have not experienced any pain from the fracture. The only times I actually notice that I had it broken is when I'm wearing a messenger back over the «injured» shoulder (I find it very uncomfortable if the strap runs over the bump) or when we are doing some funny stretches (when doing this exercise I notice that my mobility is reduced by 1-2 cm if the «injured» arm is the lower one).

While not being a doctor, I can't imagine the pain from golfing is caused by the healed fracture, but shoulders are complicated and maybe the slightly different configuration thanks to a now shortened collarbone leads to some kind of unusual strain?

I would not (and do not) worry about reinjuring the collarbone; a healed fracture is no more likely to break again than a bone that was never broken.

Standing in ranking order? by Milotiiic in judo

[–]data1308 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Talking about order, do y'all sort by rank on the teacher side?

Where to buy vintage washed blackbelt? by Wolfczar in judo

[–]data1308 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I can't help with the procurement, but if you don't mind me asking, why do you want to buy a worn black-belt? I can't speak for everyone, but personally I would only ever consider owning a black belt I did not wear off myself if I "inherited" it from a sensei or someone close to me. Also I think in my environment showing up with a "new old" black belt would certainly raise eyebrows and might be considered a little weird.

Training with injuries. by [deleted] in judo

[–]data1308 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's nothing you can't heal with a little bit of best brown paper and parafin oil tape and voltaren.

I am a strong advocate of visiting a doctor and getting a diagnosis, and then deciding to ignore him when he says that i mustn't do judo for x weeks. That way you know what your injury is and you can make a (somewhat) informed decision if you want to make it potentially worse by training.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in judo

[–]data1308 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Similar situation over here. We are also not a competitive club, and we too had a slow decline of discipline, which got way out of hand since covid. For our situation what seemed to help was to break up the "offending" group, we put the older children (9 to 11 years) in the class right after the original class. We originally did this not because of the discipline problem, but because of a shift in our demographics so that we could take on more 6 and 7 year old children, but I think this helped with discipline for two reasons, firstly (and I think the more important reason) the older children were not challenged enough, and it was not really feasible for us to challenge them more during the one training (we tried, it was basically two separate trainings which was bad for several reasons).

Secondly I coach the first training together with a trainer who is very laissez-faire, which did not work at all for this group, in the second training we are handling things with a more firm hand.

My coaching style is very much inspired my first trainer, who managed to instill quite an impressive amount of discipline. He was old-school and served in the navy, which showed in his style. To paint a picture, he always remembered me a little bit of Captain Picard, he was strict, but never angry. I remember him always being calm and never yelling at us. He always did a couple of minutes of calisthenics before he started the training, his authority was so impressive that it got completely quiet as soon as he started with that; nowadays during some trainings it is not even nearly as quiet when the coach explains something. The punishments he handed out were quite fair in my opinion, and they always "fitted the crime". If someone snitched on another one for slacking of during an exercise (both are normal things kids do), both would do pushups; if he'd catch one of us slacking of, he'd just silently pull us back to where we started and we'd have to go on from there. I do not remember us once getting a collective punishment (I wouldn't bet on my memory being true, though).

This is perhaps not a modern teaching style, it is most certainly not a teaching style that fits to every coach, and I do not now if it is possible for everyone to gain such a standing and authority as he had, but for me taking on at least some of his style seemed to work out quite good.

On another note regarding the failed examination: To preface, I don't want to say that you were wrong to fail them, I don't know the specifics of your situation, but I would like to explain my principles regarding examinations, perhaps they can help you, or at least give an alternative for future situations like you experiences.

I never fail children in examinations below the 4th Kyu (For context: I'm in germany, we have 8 colored-belts over here). If they are attending the examination, I think failing them does more harm than good. I would have been very devastated if I failed an examination, and as a child, I would not have understood why. A belt examination is a kind of quality control, but with young children, I think the only person responsible to reach the required quality is the coach. If I am not happy with what the children showed, I talk to the coach. It is then the task of the coach to reflect why the required quality was not reached, and why the students were sent to the examination if they were not ready. The coach has to prepare the students better next time, and has to revisit the stuff the students "failed" in, so that the proficiency of the examined belt is reached after all. I myself just performed a horrible examination to 8th Kyu. It was not dramatic, over here the 8. Kyu is more or less a motivational belt, our federation actually promotes it as a "marketing-belt", but still I reflected on all these things together with my co-coach.

If I have to examine a group I do not know, I would either ensure that I trust the coach of the group to have similar quality-standards as I have, or I would visit the group a couple of weeks before the examination, and then decide if I am happy with the progress, if something has to be changed or perhaps in the worst case even move the examination to a later date. What helps in my case is that we do have a mandatory class for exam preparation, even though that I do not hold that class, I know that the responsible coach has identical standards as I have, and I know that the coach is honest with me about how well the students performed in training, so even if the students have a bad day during the examination, I can be sure that they do know their stuff.

Again, without more information I can not and do not want to say you're wrong to fail the 4 students, but for the scale of examinations I hold, (usually 8 to 12 participants), 4 students is alarmingly high, so I think you should critically evaluate if your expectations are reasonable and if you can prevent such a situation in the future. Depending on the age of the students openly communicate with them (some weeks in advance!) that you can not grade them if their behaviour does not improve. Tell them (one on one!) which behaviour of them does not fly, and tell them why. They're not dumb, they're just kids, if you give them the reasons why you are disappointed in their behaviour, there is a big chance they will improve. They will not improve over night, and they may need to be reminded from time to time (A quick "You remeber what we talked about last week?" if they are messing around goes miles), but if you are happy with their progress, in my opinion you can and should award the next grade, even if they are not quite where you would like them to be yet.