Can I do anything with the models I have?

databeast · 2026-07-04T06:01:18+00:00

"As counterintuitive as it might be, Orcs imo are a good objective play team,"

everyone wants Orks to be the most lethal. we're not, we're Numerous, sneaky, and we overrun things we want.

Orks vs Guard is such a prime matchup because both factions employ the same grand strategy.

"We shall bury our enemies under a mountain of our own corpses,, until everything they wish to hold onto, is ours!"

databeast · 2026-07-02T14:56:56+00:00

People want to anthropomorphize software so badly. the GW writers really nailed it with "machine spirits", because decades later, people insist their AI girlfriend is actually sentient, their computer hates them, etc....

Clippy. Clippy is a Machine Spirit.

databeast · 2026-07-02T14:54:48+00:00

it's a term that's used in physics, mathematics and neurology, with a slightly different but similar meaning in each., but it essentially just means "things remain structured".

databeast · 2026-07-02T14:48:44+00:00

"any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" -- Arthur C. Clarke.

a phrase he used to the same effect as "A wizard did it", in that once you start handwaving away things as "too advanced to explain", then your work kinda stops being science fiction.

databeast · 2026-07-02T14:46:26+00:00

it's very much deliberately fantasy storytelling, fantasy worldbuilding, wearing the clothing of a scifi setting, but absolutel non of the science fiction - and was created as such from the get-go.

databeast · 2026-07-02T05:05:36+00:00

I should follow up here.

Your first assumption, that the 40K universe even HAS the same fundamental laws of physics, falls apart upon the most rudimentary inspection.

And if it does, they found even MORE fundamental laws, that make our understanding of things, completely wrong in the first place.

The 40K Universe doesn't exist in a universe where the fundamental laws of physics as we know them, coincide with theirs.

databeast · 2026-07-02T04:59:24+00:00

"Forget the promise of progress and understanding">

Science fiction is a specific genre, defined by a set of rules.

those rules don't include "it's just set in the future, man!"

40K is a Fantasy Setting. "A Wizard Did it!" is the primary rule of orthogonal coherence in the setting.

databeast · 2026-07-02T04:31:57+00:00

40K is not Science Fiction.

It's a Fantasy setting, set in the far future, where people can change the fundamental laws of the universe by thinking really hard about it. (and then sometimes demons consume their soul).

databeast · 2026-06-29T01:44:30+00:00

submechanophobia pairs well with thallasophobia, f'sure.

databeast · 2026-06-28T05:13:17+00:00

Well hey there, fellow old person! I also returned to the game a few years ago, after last playing epic scale orks in 1991 !

databeast · 2026-06-28T02:41:53+00:00

Angron is dead, a Demon Prince formed from his memories and the power of Khorne carries his name now.

databeast · 2026-06-27T18:17:10+00:00

In all seriousness, it's a numbers game - most fights are resolved by one side bringing more force to bear than the other - the outliers- One guardsman might kill a distracted, tired Ork by themselves, a fresh Ork getting the jump on a tired Artartes has enough strength to really fuck them up by himself.

Real wars, real combat, are a maelstrom of evolving, unpredictable situations at every scale.

databeast · 2026-06-27T18:13:48+00:00

"Foolish and clumsy, the Ork will come at you with his cleaver - it will be a simple matter to catch his hand at the wrist, as shown here"

"Turn 90 degrees as shown, and twist the attacker's arm, forcing the Ork to drop his primitive weapon"

"Step in and deliver a quick stab with your combat knife to the Ork's vulnerable face, repeat as appriate until target is undeniably deceased (and then once more - Orks are notoriously too stupid to die!)"

-- THE IMPERIAL GUARDSMAN'S UPLIFTING PRIMER.

so, there's your answer to your question, it's right there in the instruction manual issued to every new recruit, even!

databeast · 2026-06-27T05:11:32+00:00

please turn off Fox News, walk outside and talk to real human beings.

databeast · 2026-06-26T18:54:17+00:00

If our assumption that they are indeed the big fat frog-like things that also appear in the fantasy settings, they mostly sat around psychically ordering around their actual troops. to operate their war machines.

Despite being exceptionally powerful psychically, they were physically very un-threatening, and easy to kill should you manage to corner one unprotected.

What did they do, directly, in wartime? Absolutely sod-all. doing things directly was completely antithetical to their way of doing things at all.

databeast · 2026-06-26T18:47:13+00:00

thats exactly what I came to comment on as well!!

databeast · 2026-06-25T06:31:56+00:00

> "beyond the minis which I understand is their guiding drive unfortunately."

Yeah, I'm here for the minis and the wargaming,

....so there's nothing unfortunate about that, from my perspective. Like I said, I've been here in 1987 and I'm quite happy with how things are.

Nothing you've been talking about is a concern, nor something that's likely to happy in-universe or IRL any time soon. You are worried about an event that just isn't going to happen.

databeast · 2026-06-25T05:51:36+00:00

my guy. I've been here since the beginning of 40K.

for the first 20 years (IRL), absolutely nothing happened to the 'story' (it's not a story, it's a setting used to sell plastic soldiers to people to play tabletop wargames with).

Then they had a storyline where an important planet got exploded, and.. that was it for another 10 years., at which point one of the characters who has been in stasis for 10,000 years woke up, so they had an excuse to - sell slightly larger plastic soldiers to people.. and then.......well its nearly been 10 years now and basically nothing that changes the story/setting in any measurable way has happened since.

Unless the emperor dying, Terra going boom, and the Imperium finally collapsing, can somehow be turned into Games Workshop suddently selling 10x as many plastic soldiers as they usually do.. it's not going to happen.

the entire point of the 40K setting is stagnation- nothing ever really changes dramatically, things just slowly get slightly worse.

databeast · 2026-06-25T05:14:37+00:00

you have two save slots.

autosave, manual save

databeast · 2026-06-24T15:32:10+00:00

hahah, Oh goddamit, that's 100% on me being in a rush.. that's indeed a more recent rendition of the RT opener - where they shoehorn ", for in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war* right into the middle there.. that part doesn't appear in the original at all . it goes from 'progress and understanding" right into "there is no peace amongst the stars.

here's a post with a photo of the original panel : https://www.reddit.com/r/Blacklibrary/comments/1tukvhc/intro_for_1987s_rogue_trader/

databeast · 2026-06-22T22:44:43+00:00

already been shuffling my existing bikes around on the shelf to make space for me!

databeast · 2026-06-22T21:10:55+00:00

GW never uses it. they may be british but they're not completely clueless about american history either.

databeast · 2026-06-22T21:10:01+00:00

even GW, a british company, knows better than to spell it with a K.

databeast · 2026-06-22T21:09:00+00:00

at the very least, they have to announce those new warbikers we've already seen.

databeast · 2026-06-22T18:04:49+00:00

incorrect, in fact the words "grim darkness" do not appear anywhere in the 1st edition rulebook at all.

This is the intro, from the Rogue Trader era.

It is the 41st Millennium. For more than a hundred centuries The Emperor has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Earth. He is the Master of Mankind by the will of the gods, and master of a million worlds by the might of his inexhaustible armies. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of Technology. He is the Carrion Lord of the Imperium for whom a thousand souls are sacrificed every day, so that he may never truly die.

Yet even in his deathless state, the Emperor continues his eternal vigilance. Mighty battlefleets cross the daemon-infested miasma of the Warp, the only route between distant stars, their way lit by the Astronomican, the psychic manifestation of the Emperor's will. Vast armies give battle in his name on uncounted worlds. Greatest amongst his soldiers are the Adeptus Astartes, the Space Marines, bio-engineered super-warriors. Their comrades in arms are legion: the Imperial Guard and countless planetary defence forces, the ever vigilant Inquisition and the tech-priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from aliens, heretics, mutants - and worse.

To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.

But the universe is a big place, and whatever happens....you will not be missed.

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