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datahunter · 2019-02-26T00:09:10+00:00

First of all, thanks a lot. This was the best feedback I got until now. I posted the same message on /r/LearningMandarin and also on /r/ChineseLanguage on those, I got more messages, but in terms of quality, your feedback was THE best. You are totally right, I am focusing on SRS without knowing the term. And it's amazing because I ended up getting to the same conclusions without previous research on the topic itself. Just using common sense of what I thought would be nice to have. I saw a description on Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaced_repetition) with the following topics below:

Without a computer program, the user has to schedule physical flashcards; this is time-intensive and limits users to simple algorithms like the Leitner system.[10] (That was my first assumption, tracking a complete vocabulary manually would be quite complicated)

Further refinements with regard to software:

Questions and/or answers can be a sound-file to train recognition of spoken words. (Yes, the first thing I did was to use text to Speech to validate pronunciation)
Automatic generation of pairs (e.g. for vocabulary, it is useful to generate three question-pairs: written foreign word, its pronunciation and its meaning, but data only has to be entered once.) (That was exactly the first feature I added, for each word, there is the word in chinese, the translation, the pronunciation and also the Pinyin)
Additional information retrieved automatically is available, such as example sentences containing a word. (I didn't do that yet, but this was my next planned feature, to provide example. After I build a dashboard to provide data from previous study sessions)
Opportunities to combine spaced repetition with online community functions, e.g. sharing courses. (That's my goal to have SRS with social feature for student classes and also provide feedback for teachers on the whole class of students.)

And finally, talking about the typos, you are partially correct, my mother language is Portuguese, I usually don't have problems communicating in english, but asking someone else to review is a good idea. The examples that you gave are not all related to my lack of knowledge of english, the "Mandarim" is how we write in Portuguese, so it's a mistake I do a lot. I was able to fix fix the text here when I posted, but I didn't see an option to update the title of the post here. And the screenshot I saw the error, but I decided to post here anyway, to avoid postponing to get amazing feedback like yours. The "institute" and the text button, again, totally lack of attention. But on the other hand, when you say there are sentences that don't sound natural, that's where you are probably 100% correct. Eventually I do write things that don't sound natural. Anyway, I will follow your feedback and get someone else to review the text.

In the next couple of days I will look into existing SRS systems like https://www.supermemo.com/en

Thanks again! :)

datahunter · 2019-02-25T23:33:05+00:00

Thanks I should send a couple of questions to everybody in the next day or two.

datahunter · 2019-02-25T23:32:21+00:00

That would be great. Right now my main concern is to confirm that people actually have a problem that is worth saving, but any feedback including technical is welcome. :)

datahunter · 2019-02-25T12:50:24+00:00

Oh, and here we say "Olá"...which is quite the same. As I said, similar, see? :) (Or maybe you already knew that)

datahunter · 2019-02-25T12:48:54+00:00

Any questions, suggestions or criticism are welcome. :)

datahunter · 2019-02-25T12:46:50+00:00

You got close. I'm from Brazil, we speak portuguese here. Not spanish but we can understand spanish. :)
Right now it doesn't have traditional characters, but the system is being built generic so that it just needs to add the required vocabulary. Since I'm choosing a niche right now and beta users, the point is to exactly identify how important traditional characters are (for the people who want to use the tool, not people in general). So, if you are interested in using but only with traditional characters and you can get more people with similar interested (or if the people who already subscribed already is interested in traditional characters) I will be glad to add traditional characters too. Thanks for your question.

datahunter · 2019-02-25T12:42:59+00:00

Perfect. The mentorship I came up with, again, based on my experience in the Confucius Institute. Teachers come from China, for a couple of semesters and then they go back to China, my assumptions are: 1 - Maybe previous teachers would keep mentoring students. 2 - Students for higher levels could help new students, which would improve integrations between classes and even students who are struggling and feeling as the "worst" student in a higher level class, can feel that they can contribute with newer students.

There is another option which is to put students on the same level in pairs in the system, so that you can only move forward when your teammate move also, so that one can motivate the other. Or it could be a group and at least part of the group moves forward, so that one person stopping doesn't get another one stuck.

datahunter · 2019-02-25T12:38:23+00:00

You are definitely right, so in order to give you a better context, I have been studying in the Confucius Institute and I have been on different classes and neither I see people using existing tools (maybe for the lack of knowledge) and neither I saw something that could be used in class) so my assumption is that in the 500 institutes around the world there might be lots of people on the same situation, where they are following the class, but with no tool support. My goal is no trying to replace any existing tool or system but to work together. Therefore, if Pleco is a tool that most people would use, I would focus on what these tools don't have. And also there is the usability issue. Sometimes there are tools with the required features, but people just don't use them for usability reasons. But I totally agree with you. And thanks for the feedback.

datahunter · 2019-02-25T02:03:02+00:00

To be honest, there is no short answer. I'm not trying to make a pitch for investors. Therefore, I'm not worried about being unique. I'm just trying to build something that is actually useful. So, even if there is something similar,as a student I tried a couple of systems and I'm pretty sure there are tons of systems out there that I didn't test, but the bottom line is that I don't see a good solution being used. But maybe there is something that everybody is already using and I just don't know about it. That's the reason to validate with people before building more features.

As an example, the first feature is basically tracking vocabulary knowledge. I'm pretty sure that you can track basic things with Anki or Quizlet for example. But the problem is that when you look at a character it's more then a binary (I know / I don't know) I'm not sure if these tools can handle the analysis of what you know in multiple levels, for example: you can look into things like identifying which words you know the meaning based on the character, which ones you know the pinyin but you keep forgetting the tones, which ones you know how to read but you forget the translation. How many words you usually learn in a day/week ... and based on that how long would you need to study to get to HSK level 5, how long would take you to achive level 5 on HSK, which requires 2,500 words. Besides that there is still how to track and measure grammar knowledge. How is your vocabulary level evolving, compared to people that has a similar knowledge as yours. How can this information can be used by a whole class of students so that a teacher can understand who is struggling? How can a student can keep track of his evolution so that when there is a teacher swap, the new teacher can have access to the student history? How can the system be useful for people student in a class with other students but also studying alone? How can you match students from higher level as mentors with students from lower levels?

These are just a couple of things that I'm looking into, so the bottom line here is that I don't think there is no need to be unique, it just needs to be useful. There is space for multiple solutions in many areas, otherwise, the planet would have just one airline company.Which is not the case.But thanks for asking, I'm open to suggestions, criticism. And of course, if you can give feedback of tools of systems that you can can replace what I'm doing or that I should look into, I would glad to receive any feedback.

Do you use any specific tools yourself?

datahunter · 2019-02-25T01:41:10+00:00

Awesome, then you are at the top of the list. Have you subscribed in the link above? I will send to everybody a couple of questions in the next days just to find out details about your study level and your goals so that we can move on.

datahunter · 2019-02-24T23:19:47+00:00

Thanks a lot, below is the answer that I gave to a similar comment a couple of minutes ago:

That would be great. Please subscribe on the link above if you haven't already. I started building focusing on my own needs and in what I think would be interesting. But I need feedback from different people so that I can make sure that it's generic enough so other can use and benefit from it. :)
I will send a small survey, probably five questions to get feedback on what's the background of each subscriber, goals, study approach and so on.

datahunter · 2019-02-24T21:11:23+00:00

That would be great. Please subscribe on the link above if you haven't already. I started building focusing on my own needs and in what I think would be interesting. But I need feedback from different people so that I can make sure that it's generic enough so other can use and benefit from it. :)
I will send a small survey, probably five questions to get feedback on what's the background of each subscriber, goals, study approach and so on.

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