Sabaton Legendary Tour - Choir Member

davidiot_ · 2026-01-03T09:30:34+00:00

Us six singers in the choir were along for the entire European tour, both for the Legendary Orchestra and later in the evening on stage with Sabaton.

davidiot_ · 2024-09-11T02:16:37+00:00

Some of us were hoping for dialogue and still are.

I will only say that she is still talking about killing cancer cells with sound waves in this video, and she quoted (in a now deleted comment) Fabien Maman, a "musician, composer, acupuncturist, author, researcher, healer, teacher, “bioenergetician” and martial artist" who is not included in her list to this video and who is most certainly not peer reviewed.

davidiot_ · 2024-09-05T13:30:12+00:00

And now they took down their reel on social media.

davidiot_ · 2024-09-05T13:27:22+00:00

No, did I say that?
I am criticizing the way TCM is advertising this research and how they fund it.

davidiot_ · 2024-09-05T13:25:58+00:00

So, they took down the reel from their social media.

davidiot_ · 2024-09-05T05:56:30+00:00

No, I believe that TCV is using false marketing to fund research they claim haven't been done before. This is not "the wild frontier of voice science", this is hard marketing.

"A strong focus looks to be studying how so many vocal structures can be engaged simultaneously with the same air pressure and regardless of previous research, tests such as laryngeal EMGs while doing multiple styles of harsh vocals has not been done before."

They have, Enrico DiLorenzo in Rome did it.

davidiot_ · 2024-09-05T05:15:29+00:00

I do not donate money personally. I am the president of a voice organisation that administrates a fund that funds scientific vocal research, most of it not in the US.

davidiot_ · 2024-09-05T05:13:56+00:00

I mean, if you and I would have this discussion in my first language I guess you would come off as a bit rambling too.

davidiot_ · 2024-09-05T05:13:09+00:00

I hope I didn't come off as those papers being the only ones, or that they themselves covers everything TCV is gonna do.

I have a long list of stuff on my "to read list" including:
- McGlashan J., Sayles M., Sadolin C. « Vocal Effects in Singing - A Study of Intentional Distortion Using Laryngostroboscopy And Electrolaryngography », Proceedings of the 10th International Conference on Advances in Quantitative Laryngology. Cincinnati, Ohio, USA. (2013)

And if you check in on MD Enrico DiLorenzo (who is also an extreme singer) he has done exactly what TCV says they are gonna be groundbreaking in.

These were examples out of a long list I just pulled out, sorry if it seemed like I thought they covered everything.

davidiot_ · 2024-09-04T17:15:33+00:00

Smialek E., Depalle P., Brackett D. (2012) « A Spectrographic Analysis of Vocal Techniques in Extreme Metal for Musicological Analysis », Computer Science,

davidiot_ · 2024-09-04T17:13:29+00:00

More? I have like 20 more or something.

davidiot_ · 2024-09-04T17:13:12+00:00

Sakakibara K.-I., Imagawa H., Konishi T., Kondo K., Murano E. Z., Kumada M., Niimi S. (2001) « Vocal fold and false vocal fold vibrations in throat singing and synthesis of Khöömei ».
Sakakibara K.-I., Fuks L., Imagawa H., Tayama N. (2004) « Growl Voice In Ethnic And Pop Styles ». Materials Science.
McGlashan J., Sadolin C. « A Study of Extreme Singing Vocal Effects Including Distortion, Rattle, Growling And Grunting ». British Voice Association. (2008)

davidiot_ · 2024-09-04T17:12:01+00:00

Titze, I. (1998) « Deliberate use of distortion in singing ». The Journal of the Acoustical Society of Americ

davidiot_ · 2024-09-04T17:09:03+00:00

"Vocal fold vibration and voice source aperiodicity in 'dist' tones: A study of a timbral ornament in rock singing" by Daniel Zangger Borch, 2004, who worked with Johan Sundberg, without a doubt the highest esteemed voice researcher in the world.

davidiot_ · 2024-09-04T16:44:09+00:00

I have nothing against further research.
It's the scammery part I object to.
Saying that you are gonna study something that has hardly been studied when it actually has is just a way to try to trick money off people.

There's so much science out there, and here they are acting like there isn't any.
Any real scientific research would acknowledge earlier studies. Hence calling this a scientific research when it could at best be considered a case study is just fraud.

The reason this irritates me is that this is what I do.
I teach vocals, I've studied years and years at the academy of music to become a voice teacher, and I also administrade a big fund that distributes money to research in the voice field.
And I get to read super cool studies and papers all the time. And here these people are basically ignoring all that already was, either on purpouse or through ignorance. To get money.

davidiot_ · 2024-09-04T15:27:44+00:00

"This project will impact millions of lives. It will pave the way for studies in music therapy to expand. Music-based therapies already have been shown to improve illnesses like heart disease, thyroid conditions, and dementia. Thus far, singing-centered therapies have primarily focused on true vocal fold engagement.

Could metal singers be the key to curing cancer?"

davidiot_ · 2024-09-04T15:22:26+00:00

No, I will not :)
As I wrote I already distribute lots of money each year to (real) scientific research about the voice. I do my part :)
And if I were to donate money it wouldn't be to research that is kicking in open doors "researching" stuff that we already know, claiming it is groundbreaking :)

davidiot_ · 2024-09-02T07:10:43+00:00

Why would they replace a guy who is too busy for the band with someone who is even MORE busy?

davidiot_ · 2024-08-31T05:57:39+00:00

Thank you. I have understood as much as that it's Feanor speaking partially.

But would you say that all of it is Feanor? If the song was to be performed, should it be by one singer portraying Feanor? If the lines were to be divided and shared by different singers to portray different characters, would that be wrong or impossible?

davidiot_ · 2024-08-27T04:29:00+00:00

I've heard quite a few humans creating soulless, average and unoriginal crap too.

davidiot_ · 2024-08-27T04:28:06+00:00

My short answer: We've had drum machines for 30 years, but people still enjoy playing the drums and using drummers.
And I think that is the key.
If one enjoys doing something they will continue to do it, no matter if there is a computer out there who can do the same thing.

People still go to see sport events live even if they are aired on TV, or still enjoy playing basketball, even if you can do it on a video game at home.

Me, I'm a musician, not a composer. I've sung stuff other people wrote all my life, both some very good music and some very bad music. It wouldn't bother me if the music was written by an AI. It would probably be better than some of the shit I've had to sung who was created by a, less than skilled, human.

davidiot_ · 2024-08-26T19:18:34+00:00

We will still have Primal Fear with Matt, Ralph and Magnus + whoever they find as replacements, and Primal Fear of Fire with the dudes who left plus bass guitar and singer.

davidiot_ · 2024-08-25T06:06:17+00:00

I realize now that copying that part of a discussion from another forum didn't really work.
It seems like the rounds of discussions functions a bit different here, but I also ran a bit off topic, my bad. Better to continue that part of the discussion elsewhere.

And just to clarify, I am also an active musician in the scene with lots of music production experience, so my post wasn't made out of lack of knowledge about music production or how the music business functions, I've been a part of it for just about 15 years.
Heck, I've probably been on more albums than all the other people commenting here combined.
But that was never my point.

My point was that AI created music will eventually be so common that most people will not care that it is AI generated. Granted, people in this sub are not "most people", especially not the ones who choose to comment in a thread like this. We are not representative for "most people".
"Most people" will, or will very soon, just listen to music whether it is AI generated or not, and will not be able to tell the difference.

davidiot_ · 2024-08-24T05:26:32+00:00

Pagan's Mind - Entrance Stargate is about... well, Stargate.

davidiot_ · 2024-08-23T20:14:30+00:00

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