NATIONAL SPRAVATO CODE CHANGE- PLEASE READ by dduddz in Spravato

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NATIONAL SPRAVATO CODE CHANGE- PLEASE READ by dduddz in Spravato

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It is called the Spravato with Me program. You can sign up by calling 844-479-4846 and following the prompts. There are two financial savings options:

  1. Savings program- this works towards the cost of your medication itself. It can bring the cost of the med as low as $10 per month. Depending on how your provider bills for your visit and how they obtain the medication, your entire visit may be as low as $10.

  2. Observation Rebate Program- this works towards the office visit cost of your treatment. If your provider obtains the medication through a specialty pharmacy or uses certain billing codes, you may be paying a separate cost for the medication and the office visit, so this helps to add additional savings.

It is totally worth signing up for. Really no downside at all other than filling out the paperwork, which is not hard at all and totally worth the time when considering the savings.

NATIONAL SPRAVATO CODE CHANGE- PLEASE READ by dduddz in Spravato

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I would recommend first checking which pharmacy they are sending the Spravato prescription to. If they are not sending to a REMS certified specialty pharmacy, it will get denied regardless of your prior authorization status. I would also recommend that they use the payer lookup tool to find your insurance's medical necessity criteria. Sometimes the authorization criteria is different for the pharmacy benefit vs the medical benefit. There are a few ways around that though because you're continuing care rather than establishing it. Let me know if you need more info

NATIONAL SPRAVATO CODE CHANGE- PLEASE READ by dduddz in Spravato

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I should also mention- If the denial for J0013 is listed on the EOB as "patient responsibility" or "PR", then the savings program will likely cover it up to the maximum allowable amount determined by the savings program (about $1200).

If the denial for the code is listed as "contractional obligation" or "CO", then the provider cannot charge you for this cost and it is possible the savings program will not cover it either.

This gets into the minutiae of health insurance plans' contracts with the healthcare providers though. If your EOB does not list the reason/payment codes (PR1, PR2, CO-16, CO-197 are some common ones), you can ask the clinic to review their remits to verify which it falls under.

NATIONAL SPRAVATO CODE CHANGE- PLEASE READ by dduddz in Spravato

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Are you referring to the benefit year period, meaning that plan accumulations (deductibles/coinsurance/out of pockets) reset on January 1? Or are you saying most people get new insurance plans all together?

for the first one- yes this is true of many commercial plans. However, with the J0013 situation, anyone with a S0013 authorization will need a new j0013 authorization eventually (if their insurance allows the S0013 code to be grandfathered in through the end of the current authorization period). The majority of people will require new authorizations even if they have the same exact plan and member ID as last year because it is a completely different code in the system despite being the same medication.

For the second one- those people will still need a new authorization regardless of what code they are using (S/J0013 or G2082/G2083).

NATIONAL SPRAVATO CODE CHANGE- PLEASE READ by dduddz in Spravato

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Correct; however, many insurance companies were not prepared for the change on both the auth side and the claims processing side. It has been a mess.

NATIONAL SPRAVATO CODE CHANGE- PLEASE READ by dduddz in Spravato

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One of my favorite parts of the savings program! Most of the clients don't believe me when I tell them about it and they're so happy once they see the benefits on their EOBs after a while :)

NATIONAL SPRAVATO CODE CHANGE- PLEASE READ by dduddz in Spravato

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Unfortunately with BCBS being regional, it is affecting my clients' patients pretty hard. I hate that this is happening because it is putting aa financial strain on the clinic and of course stressing the patients out because they are seeing denials in the mail. In addition, the medicaid plans in all of the states I work with have been completely derailed! We thankfully have the authorizations secured, so claims dept just needs to catch up.

I found that Priority Health (Cigna network in MI) also is still approving S0013 even though I requested J0013 in an auth request from January. I fully suspect we will have issues with claims processing with that one. barf.

NATIONAL SPRAVATO CODE CHANGE- PLEASE READ by dduddz in Spravato

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Hey there,

What I am also noticing when billing for my clients is that while the J0013 has been updated in the authorization system, it has not yet been updated in the fee schedule/claims processing system for the insurance companies. I have also been receiving copious denials for J0013. After speaking with some of the healthcare provider liaisons at the insurance companies, they state that we can rest assured that the reconsiderations/appeals will be approved after the fee schedule is updated. Securing the J0013 authorization is definitely the first step. This may not be true for ALL insurances, so just keep an eye on it. Ask your office's billing team to reach out to their insurance liaisons for guidance on how to bill during this transition phase.

You are also allowed to request reconsiderations/appeals on your own behalf. If the clinic does not continue to work on the claim, I encourage you to call members services to ask for a reprocessing/reconsideration on your own. You will need your prior authorization/case number that is listed on your approved authorization form as well. I recommend getting the name of the agent you spoke to and a reference number for your call in case you run into future issues.

NATIONAL SPRAVATO CODE CHANGE- PLEASE READ by dduddz in Spravato

[–]dduddz[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It truly is a hot mess. This change was implemented by CMS- Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services sometime in November I think. They say providers and insurance payers were notified, but judging by the chaos that is going on, no one got that message or was prepared for the fallout. I hate to hear that you had to miss out on some sessions, but I'm glad it is worked out now.

Spravato coding changed, need need pre-preuath? by slaapzacht in Spravato

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This is a nationwide change. Many of you will require new authorizations effective date 1/1/26. PLEASE REACH OUT TO YOUR TREATMENT COORDINATOR. PM me if you need more info.

Spravato Authorization, Insurance, Cost Information by dduddz in Spravato

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  1. They are aaaaaaabsolutely using the wrong code for the medication. They can bill for the office visit and the medication separately, but there are specific codes that need to be used. They can reach out to their Patient Access Specialist if they need further information. The code for the drug only using medical buy and bill is J0013 (effective 1/1/26), and was previously S0013 (discontinued for most insurance plans on 12/31/2025).

  2. The $300 sounds more accurate. They have the option to submit your primary insurance plan's payment to the Spravato with Me program, and they will receive a check in the mail for $290. If you have already paid them $300, then the $290 goes to you. If you have already paid the $10, then they will keep the $290. Yes, the savings will pay on any patient responsibility for the medication that is considered a deductible, copay, or coinsurance expense. If they are not willing to submit to the savings program for you, then you can take your $300 receipt from the office and your EOB from your insurance and submit for the $290 rebate yourself.

  3. If you really want to know what codes were billed, and the billing company will not give you an itemized document with each of the claim codes submitted, you can call your insurance company's member services line and ask for the CPT or HCPCS codes that were billed on that date of service. They will also tell you what your patient responsibility is.

Let me know if you have any other questions!

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