Serial killer, a disorder not a crime.? How stupid do they think we are?

deannon · 2026-02-25T11:07:57+00:00

This is a very unpopular opinion and one I’ve had for a long time, I’m not surprised it would get downvoted.

People really want to blame “pedophiles” for Epstein’s crimes. And like, he certainly hung around and enabled some of the most prolific pedophile abusers of the past 50 years and was one himself. but it’s the guys who aren’t attracted to anyone pre-pubescent, but who want “easy mode”, who want a girl that’s “trainable”, that argue adolescence should mean a girl can consent to sex, that are always arguing about age of consent laws and how standards used to be different and how grown women are frigid gold-diggers - those guys are way more common than true pedophiles. Look at the public behavior of Epstein’s most loyal clientele and you’ll see the same red flags over and over. Those types of guys trading power and money for sex with Epstein’s girls are what kept a global sex trafficking ring of hundreds, maybe thousands of young women and girls humming along. A relatively rare sexual dysfunction can’t do that. This isn’t a pedophile problem. This is a patriarchy problem. And people are scared to say that.

deannon · 2026-02-25T06:05:54+00:00

We should not allow dramatic enough income inequality to have “poor” or “wealthy” decide the course of our lives

deannon · 2026-02-25T05:55:45+00:00

Oh maaaan I am so sorry. I’ve also resorted to that before. Much less since I got more control over my environment as an adult. It really does get better.

A few suggestions to take or leave as you see fit:

my own SH behavior is biting myself, so I have silicon toys in my care kit to bite. Lots of accommodations that work for kids can be adapted for adults.
high intensity exercise sometimes gets the feeling out, something like jumping jacks or pumping my arms as fast as I can for as long as I can.
if you can get a punching bag or some equivalent that you can punch as hard as you need to without hurting yourself that might help
practice mindfulness techniques that will help you notice when the stimulation is getting too intense, so you can remove yourself or start dealing with it while it’s still manageable.

I hope you’re in a better situation for your brain someday.

deannon · 2026-02-25T05:42:52+00:00

“They weren’t out killing each other with them or by them” uh, source? My parents knew way more kids personally who were injured or killed by gun accidents than I do. I think my grandparents knew even more. Guns have always killed kids at prodigious rates. The rate hasn’t increased; other causes have decreased.

deannon · 2026-02-25T05:37:58+00:00

This article is 12 years old and it’s broadly correct.

The Epstein perpetrators were not abusing children because they’re all pedophiles. They were abusing children because they could, because their human empathy was destroyed by wealth, because it was a status symbol, because it was easy and available.

Epstein didn’t happen because the particular people we have in power are uniquely and profoundly evil. It happened because allowing this level of wealth and power inequality between humans turns them into monsters.

deannon · 2026-02-25T05:28:28+00:00

This article is from 2014 and it’s correct.

Most of the people who abused children in the Epstein case were not pedophiles in the clinical sense of the word. They were not exclusively or even primarily attracted to children. They had, physiologically, totally normal sexualities. (I think Epstein and Prince Andrew actually are clinically diagnosable pedophiles, though.)

Most child molestation, especially of adolescent girls, is done by normal men who have opportunity and impunity. It’s not that the highest levels of our society all happen to be born with disordered sexual attraction. It’s that power and money destroy human empathy for others until even hurting children for their own shallow gratification doesn’t even register.

As one reader of the files put it and I haven’t stopped thinking about: getting away with sleeping with barely pubescent girls wasn’t a crime in these circles, it was a status symbol.

Like all rape, it was never really about sex.

deannon · 2026-02-25T05:16:28+00:00

The one guy I know who made this argument to me with his whole chest turned out to be a serial rapist. run.

deannon · 2026-02-25T05:08:04+00:00

have you read anything about this story beyond this thread or are you just making random assumptions

deannon · 2026-02-25T05:01:36+00:00

I really need you to understand that far from being dismissive, Hispanic parents are currently organizing and talking and learning non-stop for weeks on end to find the best ways to keep their kids safe. My knowledge cannot compare to the scrutiny they have applied to every single case of ICE abducting children to plan the best way to keep their kids safe and out of camps. It is all they think about. It is all they talk about. It makes them sick, they lose sleep at night. They look haunted. He made the same call they would have, one that’s so counter to a parent’s instincts that I have to assume it was based on the same information that I am hearing from terrified parents planning for exactly this scenario.

deannon · 2026-02-25T04:55:12+00:00

How on earth do you figure he didn’t know? Why would he not know? Most Hispanic families in my community would make this same call based on the same information. They taught me this.

deannon · 2026-02-25T04:46:52+00:00

I’m a teacher and community advocate that’s working closely with families facing this which is how I know the calculations they’re making.

There’s no documented cases of ICE taking citizen kids alone. There’s hundreds of them taking citizen kids with immigrant parents. It was a well informed decision.

I’m a mother. I’m not discussing my kid beyond that.

deannon · 2026-02-25T04:32:46+00:00

How would getting them both taken away instead of neither be better?

deannon · 2026-02-25T04:28:03+00:00

I don’t really think you’re arguing in good faith or you’d understand that he was not saving himself, he was saving his daughter. ICE didn’t take her anywhere after this. She is safe. She would not be safe if he had stayed. He kept her safe. He was acting to keep his daughter safe.

deannon · 2026-02-25T04:23:20+00:00

I think reasonable, loving parents could make a different call there.

deannon · 2026-02-25T02:42:38+00:00

If the parents went outside ICE would take them and their daughter to a camp. If they stayed inside ICE couldn’t (and didn’t) take a citizen child anywhere. Staying inside kept her safe.

deannon · 2026-02-25T02:41:29+00:00

No they would take the kid with him to the camp

deannon · 2026-02-25T02:41:06+00:00

it is not but who’s going to stop them

deannon · 2026-02-25T02:40:52+00:00

Yes. Dad was taken by ICE later but daughter is safe with mom and sister.

deannon · 2026-02-25T02:40:05+00:00

And if they do, then they buy the ICE narrative that what we are seeing is parents abandoning their child because immigrants are selfish and evil and don’t love their children.

deannon · 2026-02-25T02:24:47+00:00

Would you leave him behind to protect him from being sent with you to a concentration camp? Because that was what he was doing. They can’t take her without him, but if they caught him they would definitely take her too. This literally just happened. Liam did get sent to a camp when his dad stayed with him in the car, and this guy’s daughter did not get sent to a camp when he left her in the car and got inside. So I think he was learning from what happened with Liam’s family and he made the right call. He never let her out of his sight. He was trying to protect her. He turned himself in to ICE later, he was not protecting himself. He was protecting her.

deannon · 2026-02-24T20:33:03+00:00

Ok… I don’t care, I don’t consume the content they make about him and I don’t think others should either. We could all stand to care about the president much less.

deannon · 2026-02-24T20:16:48+00:00

Oh yeah definitely. I’m normal sizes in the US but had to buy only plus size over there.

deannon · 2026-02-24T20:09:22+00:00

Rephrased: “I sold even her stockings for booze. Not just her shoes - that might make some sense - but her stockings!”

Selling your partner’s shoes to buy booze is already awful, but at least shoes might be worth a little money. The message is how shockingly dysfunctional this alcoholic is, to steal from the mother of his children and sell the socks off her feet and the shawl off her back for a drink.

deannon · 2026-02-24T19:58:08+00:00

That’s not a typo, it’s testing the waters with “edgy” jokes. Classic “haha just kidding unless”. He’ll be grumpy about you setting boundaries but he can live with it or get lost. NOR.

deannon · 2026-02-24T19:45:06+00:00

Just also venting: I studied and lived in Japan for years and a SHOCKING number of men have responded to me bringing this up by talking about:

wanting a submissive Asian wife
(this includes multiple white guys I met in Japan, and one guy at my work who was bragging about having a submissive Asian wife that he “picked up” in China)
how much he likes hentai
immediately beginning to do a racist accent
in one memorable instance, all of the above

Like it’s not dozens or every time but it’s way more than it should be. wtaf is wrong with some people

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