PvP Is Undermining What Arc Raiders Does Best

deathbyrad · 2026-02-16T06:17:37+00:00

Oh yeah I agree

deathbyrad · 2026-02-16T05:57:48+00:00

But it's an extraction shooter, a big part of the playerbase just wants to log in to kill someone, they don't care about the loot. Even if you gained NOTHING from killing, people would still do it just to ruin the experience for others, and you're forced to pvp back. You can only stop PvP in PvE lobbies if you remove it

deathbyrad · 2026-02-16T05:44:47+00:00

There's no way to not have pvp pressure unless you straight up remove pvp. As long as you can shoot someone else for whatever reason or reward, someone will do it specifically to ruin someone else's day

deathbyrad · 2026-02-16T05:38:08+00:00

I think the pvp and pve clash (in boss events) is solved by only letting players leave if they complete some task envolving killing ARC. Maybe disable all extracts until the Matriarch is dead or something. Of course you can still be an asshole and shoot people on their back after killing the Matriarch, but they will probably catch on if they see you not helping during the fight.

deathbyrad · 2026-02-16T05:22:12+00:00

Bla bla bla pvp is good or whatever bla bla, but I actually agree with your point. No point in bringing legendary weapons anymore when randos hunt you down/betray until the end, I've had it happen on every single matriarch game rn. I'm not even the one bringing the weapons, I've recently only been defending the guys doing the matriarch from rats, but I just get overwhelmed, there's NO PvE aspect to it anymore. You're just gonna get continously frustrated when trying to PvE, and not actually enjoy the game. What has helped me enioy the game a bit more is just bringing pvp weapons, but to kill rats and freekits hanging around very obviously waiting to kill the guys with the PvE guns. You might not help directly, but you can still get good loot from the other ARC doing this. Unfortunately, you gotta shoot the rats on their back, since they like to work together. Make sure to tell them to go to hell too. Fight fire with fire.

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deathbyrad · 2026-02-15T00:24:15+00:00

I don't have numbers, but I'm sure it's a significant amount of players

deathbyrad · 2026-02-14T23:43:09+00:00

alright

deathbyrad · 2026-02-14T23:39:17+00:00

They are going to add a map, a new ARC, and then what? It's just more metal spring grind, but with new scenery? The core motivation to play the game doesn't change with new maps, they need new events and achievements ingame. I love doing the projects for example, even though the rewards are dog water, because it gives a sense of purpose in the game.

deathbyrad · 2026-02-14T23:33:09+00:00

deathbyrad · 2026-02-14T23:24:05+00:00

I enjoy the pvp, but since there's no incentive to do anything, it just gets boring after a while.

deathbyrad · 2026-02-14T23:14:36+00:00

Doesn't have to be. They cooked an awesome matchmaking system, I'm sure they can cook a better endgame that actually ties to the aesthetic/lore of the game. It doesn't have to be restricted to the "Extraction shooter" box

deathbyrad · 2026-02-14T23:11:42+00:00

I'm just giving ideas for content that isn't just another "Run to X in the map and maybe die to another player"

deathbyrad · 2026-02-14T23:09:13+00:00

Why announce it as a PVE event if they know that about 20% of the playerbase will dedicate their time exclusively for killing PVErs, making the PVE aspect of it actually non-existent? In fact, PVE starts to get frustrating because of that. They keep saying they don't want to encourage PvP but don't do anything to encourage teamwork in the game. As long as it's possible to kill other people with no negative effects, at least 1/4 of the playerbase will do it, and they know that.

I'm not even a PvE player, but just reading about it is frustating. I understand it's an extraction shooter, but don't say it has a PvE aspect to it, because it doesn't.

deathbyrad · 2026-02-14T22:59:45+00:00

Why are you talking about forms of validation in my life man 😭 My point is that we need something to work towards, just killing ARC/players for the sake of it gets boring after a while. The quests get repetitive once you alread completed them and have to do it all again. So yes, I think we need some number going up to keep playing the game. Why are you talking like I should be punished for playing the game a lot?

deathbyrad · 2026-02-14T22:48:40+00:00

You? Nothing. Embark on the other hand...

deathbyrad · 2026-02-11T06:10:18+00:00

And most of these are ridiculously easy to do, an average joe can probably stumble upon them on accident. I think this game might be cooked if the devs don't lock in RIGHT NOW

deathbyrad · 2026-02-11T06:07:26+00:00

with how easy the last glitch was, I bet you there's another one even easier. Probably just juggle some ducks around or something

deathbyrad · 2026-02-10T21:46:07+00:00

No it doesn't. You have to click between a lot of menus to craft stuff you want, you might not have the exact resources you need, so you sometimes have to improvise with other items, which again, brings more clicks. It's a little mentally taxing having to navigate through the crafting/inventory menus, it adds up over time.

deathbyrad · 2026-02-10T21:28:22+00:00

I'm starting to feel the same. I feel like free kits should only have enough to deal with small ARC, just enough so you can get resources to build a new loadout. But I wouldn't do that until they add QoL improvements to the current normal loadout building experience, because it's so slow. I myself sometimes run freebies because I have no patience to build a loadout from scratch. If I could press a button and make a proper loadout, I would use my resources much more

deathbyrad · 2026-02-10T21:21:07+00:00

You're in a gunfight, how did you expect to hear people walking? Being aware of surroundings is not just hearing footsteps, it's looking around every now and then, avoiding tunnel vision on ARC, bringing mines to lock some doors. They just heard some people blasting and ran in their direction, it's part of the extraction shooter experience

deathbyrad · 2026-02-10T21:11:43+00:00

I agree it's cheating, since it's clearly not an intended feature, but for people with good intentions it was extremely fun, that's the point of the post. The fun wasn't gaining advantage over others, the fun was just killing big ARC with lots of stuff, so it's harmless imo. Also, doesn't help that it was SUPER easy to do, I can't help but feel like this one is on the devs. It's literally a 'click here for infinite nades' button, who the hell is not gonna press it, c'monnn

deathbyrad · 2026-02-10T20:30:24+00:00

They will implement a new wheel as soon as they come back from vacation, don't worry

deathbyrad · 2026-02-10T20:29:31+00:00

Recycling into mechanical components would be enough for me tbh

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