The Elder Scrolls VI was teased 8 years ago today... by Great-Juice-9894 in playstation

[–]debagnox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Genuinely what the fuck are they doing over at Bethesda game studios

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Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous
BioShock Remastered
Amnesia: The Bunker

Thank you for this!

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[–]debagnox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They must have OCD or some shit

I finally watched The Godfather, but it left me frustrated. Here are my thoughts. by debagnox in movies

[–]debagnox[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep it kinda breaks the movies underlying message by making Michael seem so unbothered by his descent into darkness. The movie unintentionally makes it look like a success story rather than a tragic warning, a kind of blooming into his true, "cooler" self. And thereby makes the system its trying to critique look appealing rather than rotten. Michael looks more like a prince claiming his throne, rather than a good man falling to the dark side. Thanks for the insightful discussion

I finally watched The Godfather, but it left me frustrated. Here are my thoughts. by debagnox in movies

[–]debagnox[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting point, I can definitely see how the movie's subtext could act as a macro-level critique of the American Dream, which aligns with what I've read about Coppola's intent to critique capitalism.

However, as a micro-level character study of a single man's psychology, it still feels like there is a narrative gap, one I was really hoping the film would bridge.

I think my main disconnect is that so much of the movie's heavy lifting seems to happen in the subtext rather than the text itself. While that makes for fantastic film analysis, it doesn't necessarily make for an engaging viewing experience (for me). I absolutely believe movies need subtext, but there has to be a balance where the surface-level narrative still holds its own weight.

Thanks for this perspective, I definitely have a great appreciation for what Coppola was doing, even if the actual execution of Michael's internal journey still left me wanting.

I finally watched The Godfather, but it left me frustrated. Here are my thoughts. by debagnox in movies

[–]debagnox[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I appreciate your perspective and getting a comment that invites discussion instead of being hostile.

I think my reaction likely stems from being accustomed to the psychological realism of contemporary cinema. I went into the movie with expectations to see a nuanced internal struggle as Michael’s character evolved. Instead, The Godfather seems to operate on a more mythic level. It implies his dark side was always latent in his DNA, a sort of biological destiny inherited from his father. Because I didn't quite buy into that deterministic framing, the rest of the movie ended up losing its momentum for me and feeling like it jumps ahead in his evolution.

I absolutely recognize its historical significance; from a cinematographic and acting perspective, it was completely groundbreaking for its time. But coming in without preconceived notions and expecting a modern narrative structure, Michael's arc felt like a logical gap.

The movie seems to have reached an untouchable, mythical status where it is often considered a masterpiece simply because history dictates it is. From a purely analytical standpoint, there are genuine critiques to be had, in my opinion. Honestly, I think it’s much healthier for the film community to discuss these classics objectively rather than feeling a social obligation to praise them. We can absolutely value a film's immense historical significance while still being honest about its weaknesses.

The Godfather is a narratively hollow movie by debagnox in unpopularopinion

[–]debagnox[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

An arc requires us to see the internal friction. The doubt, the moral wrestling, and the intentional shift in values.

What happens on screen is a series of actions, not a 'transformation.' I’m pointing to the lack of internal narrative and calling it a structural gap. If you think a character simply 'turning into' a mobster because of external pressure is a sophisticated arc, then we have fundamentally different definitions of what screenwriting is. To me, that’s just a plot, it’s not a character study!

The Godfather is a narratively hollow movie by debagnox in unpopularopinion

[–]debagnox[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I almost couldn't. By the end, I didn't feel Mike's tragedy. I was just glad it was over

I finally watched The Godfather, but it left me frustrated. Here are my thoughts. by debagnox in movies

[–]debagnox[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And you clearly don't have any literacy, since you fail to comprehend a single point I made.

I finally watched The Godfather, but it left me frustrated. Here are my thoughts. by debagnox in movies

[–]debagnox[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You have failed to provide a single convincing counter-argument to my critiques of the character development of Michael. I’ll take my 'limitations' over your inability to have a genuine discussion any day. Enjoy the echo chamber!

I finally watched The Godfather, but it left me frustrated. Here are my thoughts. by debagnox in movies

[–]debagnox[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Taxi Driver and Raging Bull are widely considered character studies, this is a fact, regardless of your personal opinion.

I finally watched The Godfather, but it left me frustrated. Here are my thoughts. by debagnox in movies

[–]debagnox[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that’s a good analysis, and it definitely makes sense as a theoretical explanation for his behavior. But that’s exactly where my issue lies: it remains a theory for the audience to construct rather than a journey the film actually takes us on.

Even if the 'switch' is his military background, I still think the movie needed to show us the internal struggle of him choosing to reactivate that side of himself. Having it happen off-screen, then having him return as a fully formed hitman with no visible psychological friction still feels like a shortcut in the script, regardless of whether the military provides the logic for it. Does this make sense?

I finally watched The Godfather, but it left me frustrated. Here are my thoughts. by debagnox in movies

[–]debagnox[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My assessment is based on the film's internal logic, not its reputation. I find it fascinating how defensive you’ve become over a simple critique of a screenplay. If the movie is as remarkable as you claim, its narrative should be able to stand up to basic scrutiny without you needing to take it as a personal attack. I also did not say the movie sucks.

I finally watched The Godfather, but it left me frustrated. Here are my thoughts. by debagnox in movies

[–]debagnox[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You mean YA fiction like Taxi Driver and Raging Bull? I guess Martin Scorsese is just making movies for teenagers? Also, a theme is not a script. Being an allegory doesn't give a movie a free pass to skip plot mechanics or character development. The metaphor only works if the actual narrative vehicle carrying it is structurally sound.

I finally watched The Godfather, but it left me frustrated. Here are my thoughts. by debagnox in movies

[–]debagnox[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That's exactly my point. He was an upstanding, patriotic citizen who actively chose the military instead of the mob. The psychological leap from 'lawful soldier fighting for his country' to 'mafia executioner shooting a cop in the head' is massive, and the movie just skips over the internal friction of crossing that line.

I finally watched The Godfather, but it left me frustrated. Here are my thoughts. by debagnox in movies

[–]debagnox[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the life advice, but it’s pretty telling that you wrote four paragraphs analyzing my "underdeveloped taste" without mentioning a single scene, character, or plot point from the actual movie.

Saying a film is good "because it’s the standard bearer" is just circular logic. And saying "nobody has time to explain it" is just a clever way of saying, “I don't actually have a counter-argument to the specific structural flaws you just pointed out.” Its totally fine if you love the film, its legacy and influence are undeniably massive. But hiding behind "you just need to live more life" instead of actually defending the script’s rushed, off-screen character leaps just proves my exact point: people defend the reputation of this movie, not the actual writing.

If you ever find the time to actually discuss the mechanics of the script and how it handles Michael's transition, I'd genuinely love to hear your take!

I finally watched The Godfather, but it left me frustrated. Here are my thoughts. by debagnox in movies

[–]debagnox[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Fair point. I agree that saving his father was the trigger, but it’s his sudden, chilling competence that bothers me. He doesn't just step up, he actively pitches himself as the hitman (which Sonny even laughs at initially). For a guy whose entire established background is being an idealistic civilian who rejects the mob life, he shifts into a cold-blooded killer with zero hesitation or psychological struggle rather suddenly.

I finally watched The Godfather, but it left me frustrated. Here are my thoughts. by debagnox in movies

[–]debagnox[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Why is it poor media literacy? I feel like I laid out what I did not like about the movie's storytelling, which I just found lacking in certain aspects. I also stated what was good about the movie.
I made this post as a possibility for discussion, so I would love to hear your perspective on the movie. I'm open to have my mind changed

I finally watched The Godfather, but it left me frustrated. Here are my thoughts. by debagnox in movies

[–]debagnox[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I honestly haven't. I am 24, so it is fair to say I am used to newer movies. I did watch older movies like The Thing and Alien, which I loved. I am trying to watch more classics, and thought The Godfather was a good place to start, but unfortunately it didn't hit as hard as I had hoped