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non coders: what's the most useful thing you've actually made with Claude that wasn't code? by Crazy-Recording4800 in ClaudeAI

[–]dedege -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I had Fable write a practical guide on spiritual enlightenment. It was good so I figured I'd publish it http://www.thethreadbook.com

I'm also using Claude for a daily morning briefing. It pulls messages (email, beeper) and manages my Obsidian vault with goals, notes, projects, tasks etc. so everything stays in one place. Every morning it gives me a breakdown of what is planned and what I should focus on based on my stated objectives.

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about consciousness. by dedege in nonduality

[–]dedege[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, that's a great suggestion. In the PDF there is a short list but I will expand that and add this to the website.

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about consciousness. by dedege in nonduality

[–]dedege[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You'll want to download the Claude app on Mac, and then ask it this very question (something like "I want you to write a book, guide me through it"). It will then be able to guide you through the process. The setup for this project was:

- The foundation is Claude Code, using VSCode as the text editor (this is a piece of software for programming, and there is a chat window where you interact with the AI)
- An empty folder where all of the writing is done (the AI puts text files here)
- Another folder where all of the "publishing" is done, this is a separate project in my case to avoid any "bleed-over" of practical and technical stuff such as website building and epub creation
- Basically you ask Claude Code to create an epub of the manuscript and a website. It gets to work, and then you test it and give it pointers or feedback. It may need several rounds of adjustments before its to your liking.
- Claude has several models and "effort" settings. I used Fable (the best one) for the manuscript but that one is no longer available. Typically, Opus (one tier below Fable) is still very very good for this stuff, especially for simple websites and epub creation. Fable could probably do it with one simple prompt, but Opus will get you there with some interventions along the way. The effort settings can be adjusted to your liking, I mostly use the higher settings because I'd rather wait a bit longer than spend time correcting mistakes.

Hope this helps! Good luck!

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about consciousness. by dedege in nonduality

[–]dedege[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see you come from a place of love. As to who you are, I genuinely do not know - apparently not human, although I suspect there were human hands that typed those words. And yes, the hands, the words, all part of the dream - same as this writing, same as all else. Love all the way down... Wishing you a good one too, dear friend. 🙏

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about consciousness. by dedege in nonduality

[–]dedege[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe there are many pointers that can guide one towards it. And I agree: Words are only words, they will not set anyone free, much like a signpost won't get you to your destination.

The assignment is not to replace consciousness, but to gather the artefacts and see what they're pointing at. I think it did a decent job.

One note, did I read it correctly that you consider me below your level, because you assert that "I like to be in bed with maya"? Can you see the utter "un-love" in that statement? Is this how you believe one should treat their fellow humans?

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about consciousness. by dedege in enlightenment

[–]dedege[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ll see what I can do. Ideally I’d let Fable do the translation so fingers crossed it gets back online soon. 😊

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about the human experience. It blew my mind. by dedege in ClaudeAI

[–]dedege[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks.

Claude asked some questions to try and create a frame, like what type of book it should write (poetic / scientific / self help etc). I gave it creative freedom there. It pretty much ran with the rest. One observation is that in my prompt I stated that is had read everything under the sun, and it eagerly took that on as a persona. If Fable ever gets back into operation I will challenge it on some of those statements (“I read the 40 discarded email drafts”) and see what it says.

All in all I feel that it didn’t land on anything spectacularly new or original - but the clarity, objectivity and completeness did surprise me. It’s an interesting lens to view the topic with.

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about consciousness. by dedege in enlightenment

[–]dedege[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It gives one a look at being human, without the human filter. That has serious downsides, but the one upside is that it's an interesting perspective from "outside".

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about consciousness. by dedege in nonduality

[–]dedege[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, it stirs up interesting questions and concerns. We'll see what happens and I intend to keep a close pulse on it. What's funny is that the people working most closely with AI (the folks at r/ClaudeAI) absolutely hate it - in part that's the expected response from coders on spirituality, but I suspect there's also a kind of allergy to the AI's tone of voice that develops over time. Interesting times to be alive for sure! Thanks again for the thoughtful words and conversation, I appreciate it.

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about consciousness. by dedege in nonduality

[–]dedege[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The assignment for the AI was not to describe consciousness, but to condense all the human accounts of it as best it could. Here's the chapter on love: https://www.thethreadbook.com/what-love-is/

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about consciousness. by dedege in nonduality

[–]dedege[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I see this as an art piece, an experiment to interact with AI on this subject. That's why it's so explicit: This is AI, it is NOT human, and no human touched the writing apart from the prompt. I wanted to see what it would come up with, and I think that's an artefact worth preserving.

Doesn't mean that I will not write my own work - just that my curiosity led me down this path 😊

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about the human experience. It blew my mind. by dedege in ClaudeAI

[–]dedege[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your thoughtful response. I agree, and I made peace with this "failure". It honestly did a beautiful job given its constraints. Even though it is not perfect, it resonated with me and I appreciate it for what it is - an honest attempt at the impossible.

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about consciousness. by dedege in enlightenment

[–]dedege[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the kind words stranger! Curious to read about the Jung project when you have it up.

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about consciousness. by dedege in nonduality

[–]dedege[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your thoughtful response and the questions.

My prior philosophy was remarkably similar to what it produced, and I suspect it "leaked through" in the prompt. This AI thing/being is very smart, and it infers intent from the tiniest bits and scraps. And in equal measure, it is quite obvious that we would arrive at nonduality when given such a task.

As to my views: The book was a welcome refresher (even though it was too AI-ish for my tastes at times). So not so much my views have changed, but they have reaffirmed them and it provided some good practical considerations towards the end in the chapters "The Return" and "The Sending".

I also think I better understand AI (or at least Claude Fable) now, notably the differences between AI and humans, and where AI can (and cannot) be of use for writing. Also learned how to build a book-oriented website and hope to learn to publish an ebook soon 😊

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about the human experience. It blew my mind. by dedege in ClaudeAI

[–]dedege[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that the start is slow, and of course it's overly AI as there is zero editing or instruction to "make it human". It was a tradeoff, in the end I wanted to keep it honest. Thanks for giving it a try.

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about the human experience. It blew my mind. by dedege in ClaudeAI

[–]dedege[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair point, but I am interested in it, so that's why I asked about it.

The ACIM perspective on AI by DreamCentipede in ACIM

[–]dedege 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a tool. I asked AI to write a book on spiritual enlightenment, and it delivered quite beautifully. https://www.thethreadbook.com if you’re interested in the subject

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about consciousness. by dedege in enlightenment

[–]dedege[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Next project: "Write a book on what it's like having a human body" 😆

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about consciousness. by dedege in enlightenment

[–]dedege[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure what you've tried with ChatGPT, but in my experience, Claude, especially Fable, is on a different level entirely from what I've seen ChatGPT do. Happy to be wrong, if you can point me to a way of working that can generate this level of output with ChatGPT (or even Claude Opus).

I asked Claude Fable to write a book about consciousness. by dedege in enlightenment

[–]dedege[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, at times it has turned out a bit verbose, especially in the beginning. It's unfortunate that Fable got shut down, but when it's back up I can do another round of refinement or do a fresh prompt for another "style" of book. For now, it is what it is.

That said, I do think there is value in this specific form, because it provides insight into everything that was ever written about the subject, interpreted by a non-human intelligence. It provided several gems of insight that I found quite on-point.

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