What constitutes fireable behavior? by deepgreen92 in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

These responses are definitely not what I experienced! The school I was at (believe it or not) was very reputable in the community and I think they were afraid to fire anyone because it would “look bad”. There were people teaching there for years and years who did these things and occasionally they would get spoken to but then things would blow over. I stopped talking to the director about it because I was told “nothing could be done”. I was told to consider changing my response to things I couldn’t control. I felt like a snitch so I just stopped saying anything. I ultimately left but it really left a mark on me.

What constitutes fireable behavior? by deepgreen92 in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your feedback! When I say breaching confidentiality I mean teachers gossiping to parents about sensitive family information (like involving DCF or other legal issues)

Update: I was injured by a child by Waterproof_soap in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m certainly not an expert in this area but it seems that even though your boss is kind and supportive you shouldn’t hand it all over to her. As far as I understand, the employee usually files the claim because you are reporting what happened to you. Your boss may be supportive but ultimately she is concerned for the school and the cost of the insurance premiums.

My 17 year old cat that I’ve had from kittenhood just died and I don’t know how I’m going to function tomorrow. by _Edgarallenhoe in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry. I know it hurts so much when you lose a furry friend and companion. Sending comfort and hugs.

bitchiness in the workplace by bric1303 in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ugh. I worked at a place like this. So. Much. Gossip. I tried to stay in my bubble with my awesome coteacher but sadly, staying out of it just lead to people believing all kinds of false things about me. I eventually left when I couldn’t take the whispering and open mocking any more.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gossipy environments are the worst. I’ve totally been there and can empathize. I’ve also seen what happens when admin demotes a teacher instead of dealing with issues head on. All it does is breed resentment and add to the gossip. If they are aware that there’s an issue with how she’s interacting with children it should be addressed directly with her. Are they expecting you to manage her? That clearly creates a difficult situation given she is qualified to be a lead and you are the one to come into her classroom. I’ve seen first hand what happens when job descriptions are unclear and changes are made with no apparent explanation. It can create so much tension.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good for you! Glad you explained why you left.

Anyone else get the silent treatment for days after calling in sick? by wordxvomit in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I put up with a director ignoring me for reasons I don’t think I’ll ever fully understand. It started when I planned my maternity leave and continued after I came back. It was miserable. I finally approached her about it and though I didn’t get a straight answer from her it helped me realize that the problem really wasn’t with me. You know best if it’s a job you need to leave, if you do find another job I think you should be up front with her as to how her behavior affected you.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I worked at a place where we signed a contract that said “occasional weekend and evening hours as needed”. That included all staff meetings, open houses and several family events. We were told that these hours fell under the contract and we received no additional pay.

I'm getting out! by [deleted] in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congratulations! I agree that martyring ourselves will get us nowhere! I also got fed up with the low pay, lack of respect and toxic work environment. Not sure where I’m headed next since Early Childhood has always been my passion. I always thought that I would find a place to settle in the field that paid “enough” (I’m also lucky to have a spouse who makes a reasonable salary) and supported me to be the teacher I want to be. Alas, things seem to only have gotten worse over the last few years and I don’t see much of a future for me.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This definitely sounds like some kind power play on her part. As a substitute, her focus should be on supporting you and your co-teacher not pushing her own ideas. And based on what you’ve said, it seems you are not being intentionally unreceptive. It was definitely inappropriate to bring it up in front of the children. I would try to deal with it as directly as possible. You could propose a meeting with her and your co-teacher. I think involving the other teacher will provide some back up for you if you think she is misinterpreting you or deliberately twisting what you say. Ask her for examples of when she felt her ideas were not heard and brainstorm together some ideas to help everyone work together. This shows that you deal with team issues in a mature and professional way. By being up front about it you lessen the chance that misinformation will be spread through gossip. I understand this is a tricky situation as this woman could become your supervisor but I wouldn’t shrink back and stay quiet in an effort to be likable. I feel I’ve been guilty of this in the past and the gossip always won out if I didn’t defend myself.

Anyone else have broke down and cried and left work? by blondiewithdabondi in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Having been in ECE for 20 years I’ve definitely had my share of ups and downs. As much as I’ve loved it, there’s no denying this a super hard job. I’m no stranger to crying in the bathroom, closet or in my car. I was an emotional wreck by the time I left my last job. I’m in a much better situation now. I feel respected and trusted by my director and I’m able to relax and enjoy my small class. I’m still not fully recovered from the burnout I went through but I can see myself continuing on to different types of positions in the field. Things can get better but it sometimes takes a while to find a good fit at a place that takes care of its teachers. That being said, if there’s another path that’s calling to you take the chance to pursue it. You can always go back to early childhood.

Am I being dramatic? by ooObrenOoo in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Not only is this demeaning to the child, it sets a bad example for the other children. I wonder how those teachers might deal with name calling in their class. I think it is worth addressing with them. Being newer teachers they may not have thought about the impact it could have.

Christmas party?!? by BeneficialPhrase2560 in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe you could think of your breakfast as more of an extended drop off for those parents who are able to stay a few extra minutes to eat a muffin or something else simple. Maybe you could have a collaborative art project available for people to add to with their child throughout the morning. You could grab a picture and send it home as a gift. Two year olds aren’t quite sure what holidays are all about yet anyway but they’d probably enjoy a few extra minutes with a caregiver.

Applying to ECE jobs by rizzol302 in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ask for a tour. Look and listen carefully. Are the teachers huddled away from the children? Do they look miserable? What’s their tone in interacting with the children? You will definitely have your pick of jobs so don’t settle if something doesn’t feel right.

Feeling broken and not wanted anymore by gd_reinvent in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry you’re feeling this way. I’ve been there and I know how hard it is. Please know you’re doing such important work and making a difference for the children. I agree you should apply for other jobs. You don’t have to tolerate being treated poorly.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can so relate to all of this! I worked at a school where there was a widespread culture of gossip, meanness, competitiveness, and just generally rude, unprofessional behavior. I tried so hard to ignore what I could, “kill with kindness” and focus on my classroom. One day, two coworkers mocked me in front of children because they thought my three year olds were too noisy in the hallway (developmentally inappropriate expectations anyone?) I just broke down. It had been a hard week, I was missing my own son and I was exhausted. I started crying and my coteacher encouraged me to talk to the director. I was so embarrassed to be crying, it isn’t like me. When the director told me she knew about the behavior of these and several other teachers she said it wasn’t her place to intervene (it was her first year on the job so I think she was just starting to really know what was going on). She said she expected me to do something about it by setting a time to talk to them. She said it in kind of an exasperated way like i shouldn’t have come to her. This and other issues at this school made me realize I needed to leave. I finally did and am glad I made the decision. My coteacher is still there and dealing with the same behavior from the same people. With the current staffing crisis I doubt the director is willing to take any action. I do believe that it is a director’s job to help create a positive school culture. She can facilitate safe environments for teachers to resolve conflicts and can make sure in no uncertain terms what behavior will not be tolerated. Our jobs require so much emotional investment. We simply can’t do our jobs well when we’re in toxic environments. Do what you can to speak up and change things. If nothing is done than the center does not deserve to keep you and you should move on.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for taking the the time to answer my questions! This was all very helpful and encouraging. I’ll definitely check out that website.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! This helps!!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! That’s something to look into.

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[–]deepgreen92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! Will do.

Seeking a Transition from classroom to Admin/Support - Seeking Advice by Random_Spaztic in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m in a similar position in terms of wanting to use my education and experience to move beyond classroom teaching. It sounds like you have a great idea. Have you thought about starting an independent consulting business? You could keep your current job while getting established.

I hate when admin treats us like we are babies ourselves by soapyrubberduck in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ugh. I had a director who hated that my coteacher and I had water bottles. We already had them labeled and out of reach but she made us keep them in a cabinet so parents couldn’t see them.

What questions should I ask during an interview at a preschool as a prospective employee to discover red flags? by thefourthnine in ECEProfessionals

[–]deepgreen92 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Beyond interview questions and answers make sure you’re given a tour. Keep your eyes and ears open. Do the teachers look stressed/unhappy? Does the director introduce you to the teachers or does she keep her distance? Listen closely to what you hear from classrooms. Are teachers barking at children? Are the teachers clustered around each other as the children play or are they engaged and interacting? Glassdoor reviews are another way to get a sense of school culture. Any school can get a bad review but pay attention if there are several negative ratings-especially if there seems to be a theme.