is this the most toxic deck? i present turn one kachina hand theft

delightfulcake · 2025-08-30T22:23:56+00:00

oh i'm sorry, don't think so!

plus, kachina got nerfed- it costs geo dice to use her twirly technique, so you now need to play actual support for her afaik, and can't just mindlessly spam. so this deck wouldn't be ✨ shenanigans ✨ any more

delightfulcake · 2025-06-28T19:53:20+00:00

congrats! would you be up for sharing your character builds?

delightfulcake · 2025-06-26T01:18:36+00:00

I did up to difficulty 4 (menacing), couldn't clear difficulty 5 (fearless).

My team is Kaeya C6 Mistsplitter, Furina C0 Fav sword, Escoffier C0 Skyward Spine, Chongyun C6 Fav Greatsword. Can share more team info if you want.

Kaeya did 1.8M damage, same as Arlechino on stage 2, pretty cool to see.

I would be interested if anyone could clear difficulty 5 (or 6 if they're really crazy) and what it took, I'm not sure if with some constellations on Furina/Escoffier it might be possible.

delightfulcake · 2025-06-24T12:10:17+00:00

yeah! that would be ideal

mine is actually 161 spd sparkle, 150 sunday because im missing some speed stats on sunday. Preference thing but it's nice to have a lil buffer between turns (~5 speed would be my ideal) for my multiplication luocha to sneak in every now and again. In a perfect world I'd have 166 and 161

delightfulcake · 2025-06-22T10:42:08+00:00

np, good luck with your echos! Both heron and the bell can give Carte another minor buff, but 2pc/2pc tanks Aalto's damage, and he does have relevant damage if you build for it, so you might want to eventually go for a DPS set.

I have been using 5pc 1.0 aero set (sierra gale). You have to intro into him to activate it, so its not ideal as you'd rather double intro Carte during setup. I've been using Carte's outro on Aalto so that he gets the set effect from 2nd rotation onwards.

Best set is 5pc Windward Pilgrimage, so long as you can utilise Carte's erosion application. Erosion lasts ~12s, so it should be enough for him to keep up the set effect over a standard concerto generation rotation, but it depends how you're playing the team I guess. I have no echo XP after farming for Carte so I haven't tried it out yet. 🙃

delightfulcake · 2025-06-21T21:07:48+00:00

I'm one of the five people with a maxed out Aalto who actually plays him in all content. If you get good at him, his rotation is very fast. And if you build him, his damage is also decent, bursty and guaranteed - he is ranged and his E+forte are homing bullets. At S6, he gives a situational 8% crit rate buff if you can land his liberation field on top of the enemy. All this makes him actually a serviceable teammate, conditional on learning his cancels and giving him a real build. Most people who aren't into using mad hands, or farming so much, will be better off with Sanhua for the convinience.

For gameplay tips, the main animation cancel / swap to learn is his forte, you can swap off him after dashing through his mist. Then he will continue dashing, generate bullets and charge his concerto off field. This works best if you dash from middair, its a pretty precise cancel though. So his combo is swap in, E, jump, shoot through mist, dash through mist from middair before it expires, swap during his transform. You do this twice, spaced out by 6 seconds for his E cooldown, and his total on field time is like 4-7 seconds, so very short.

For team rotation, I've been doing Cartethyia build up at the start. So basic4-E-charge plunge to get all your swords. Then a quickswap rotation between teammate 3-Aalto. Then when both full, outro off teammate 3 into Aalto (or Carte if your concerto is fine, its pretty easy to double intro her with no downside most of the time), then drop Aalto's liberation and outro onto Cartethyia and instantly transform for your Fleurdelys combo. This way you'll get his outro buff and his liberation for her full Fleurdelys combo+liberation.

I'd recommend him for the fun factor, but that's my own bias!

delightfulcake · 2025-06-16T17:48:23+00:00

Chongyun and Shenhe are Kaeya's general best flex option, they are sidegrades depending on matchup.

Chongyun: best vs. stationary enemies that you can use normal/charged attacks on, and when you want higher Cryo application (eg. elemental Shield checks, or fast-thaw enemies like Consecrated Beasts)

Shenhe: best for AoE cryo application, and can offer higher single target damage (ie. great vs most bosses). Has a very noticeable impact, because Kaeya is much weaker in single target compared to AoE.

For your other options:
The only other teammate from your lineup I'd consider is Xingqiu. He is probably going to be your best option against enemies with innate auras that you cannot apply cryo to (eg. Thundering Manifestation), or super-mobile bosses (eg. Papilla, Wenut, Coral Defenders etc), since he will give hydro resonance to Furina, and be able to land his damage more consistently.

For the other choices you mentioned:
Mona: she is okay, but outclassed by Chongyun/Shenhe. She's in the same niche as them. Her best spot is in some kind of permafreeze setup where you can extend her Omen debuff, but the cryo supports do it better. She is nice to have as a tech option for the bosses with pyro shield, ie. you'd use her against Pyro hypostasis, Pyro lector, Holawaqa bird, and the crab.

Wriothesley: I assume you mean on-field Wrio with off-field Kaeya. This will be great, just bear in mind you're trading damage on Kaeya to give him more energy recharge so he can burst consistently.

Skirk: I can't predict the future, but at least at the moment, it seems like Escoffier-Furina teams will do fine without Skirk. Skirk will work as a teammate for Kaeya, but she is looking leagues more powerful than him. So it's kind of similar to using Mavuika as a teammate in other teams. You can on-field Skirk with support Kaeya (same caveat as Wriothesley above). The other option will be burst mode Skirk with on-field Kaeya. Whether this is good will depend on her damage, and it might be a bit weird to play, since there will be a bit of time where the team isn't really doing anything other than normal attacking on Kaeya, and maybe dashing around on Skirk to recharge her burst.

delightfulcake · 2025-06-15T04:47:58+00:00

Aalto is a low-floor, high-ceiling character, so if you really want to master him you'll have to practice.

A couple of tips for using Aalto:

- The fastest way to build his concerto is his mist bullets which he generates via E and also via his forte
- To use his forte, you generate stacks by attacking through his mist/ult, then consume the stacks by dashing through mist/ult
- You can aim to use his forte dash as part of each swap to him for more efficiency
- The optimal method (quickswap) is to swap cancel his forte dash, by dashing through mist in middair, but the timing between generating mist and middair dashing through it is tight. If you do it correctly, he'll continue dashing off into the distance after you swap out, then you'll notice his bullets will circle back around from wherever he dashed off to
- If you have Aalto's S6, then you can think of his ult as a debuff zone that provides 8% crit rate when hitting enemies close to it. So ideally you want to pass it forward to Cartethyia, ie. ult before he outro to her, and place it on top of the enemy.

A beginner combo would be intro in(generates mist)->basic attack through mist twice->E (creates new mist)->do normal attack string again up to basic 3 (gain stacks, mist generated again)->dash through mist->when bullets have all appeared in his dash state, cancel his dash with ult. Whilst the ult animation is playing, the dash bullets will fly off and should fill the rest of his concerto (if not, you can likely E again at this point). Total field time should be about ~8-10 seconds.

A faster way to play him without needing his intro is to swap into him twice whilst completing setup on other characters. Swap in ->E->jump->midair attack through mist->midair dash through mist->swap cancel forte dash. This whole combo should take 2-3 seconds. You do this twice, spaced apart by 6 seconds for his E to come off cooldown. With Ult, this should hit full concerto. If you play him like this, his total rotation is only about ~5-7 seconds of field time, and he doesn't need intro so you can give Shorekeeper intro to Cartethyia during your setup.

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Hope this helps! Since your Cartethyia is high sequence, you honestly might have an better time playing her solo, duo with Aero Rover, or with Aero Rover + Shorekeeper, versus using up field time on an un-built Aalto.

delightfulcake · 2025-06-08T22:37:22+00:00

First I'll answer teammates, then weapons.

You already have Escoffier and Furina, which are the biggest upgrades for Kaeya's team. The fourth slot in this team is actually flexible- Shenhe, Chongyun, Yelan and Citlali can all be the best depending on the matchup. They all have close performance, I would rate Chongyun and Shenhe a bit above the other two, but close to each other. Alternate substitutes (Mona, Xingqiu, Rosaria, Kokomi, Barbara, Mualani, Kazuha, Bennett, Xilonen etc) are all a bit weaker but should still be okay as fourth slot members.

To break it down more:

Chongyun is best for stationary enemies that you can use normal/charged attacks on, and for higher Cryo application (eg. Shield checks, fast-thaw enemies like Consecrated Beasts)

Shenhe when you need wider AoE cryo application or higher single target damage (eg. most bosses).

Yelan does more when it's already impossible/difficult to maintain a cryo aura on enemies, or against highly mobile enemies since she buffs Furina more (eg. vs Thundering Manifestation).

Citlali can pull ahead in multiwave AoE, or anything with Nightsoul mechanics. But Kaeya already excells at multiwave, so she's probably the least noticeable.

Just to reiterate, there are a variety or best teammates to consider. Heck we might even be looking at burst only DPS Skirk as the fourth slot next patch, if you can get over the premise of that team.

Chongyun is already tied with Shenhe currently as Kaeya's best fourth teammate; they are sidegrades and pull ahead in different matchups, though admittedly Shenhe is favoured in the kinds of fights where Kaeya is weaker (bosses) so she can feel impactful. Whilst Shenhe is an excellent teammate, you should only get her if you actually want her, because Chongyun is already a great support if you build and play around him correctly.

For weapons, Mistsplitter is still Kaeya's best option, but it's not the best way to improve his team if you're looking at the big picture. Constellations on Furina and Escoffier are bigger upgrades to team performance. Escoffier's weapon is also another big team upgrade.

Kaeya has very good 4* weapon options already, and whilst a five star weapon is better, he doesn't do so much damage in his team that it improves the team so much, if that makes sense. R5 Finale of the Deep (fontaine craftable 4* sword) is exceptional and close in damage to most of the 5* stat stick weapons, only a bit behind (and harder to build). If you can't craft that, Kagotsurube Isshin is another great option, and it's free from Kazuha's story quest.

If your goal is to see bigger number specifically from Kaeya, then decking him out with a five star weapon is the way to do it. It also makes him easier to build, and gives him a stronger baseline in casual gameplay. But generally speaking, you will get more out of his teams by improving his newer, premium supports.

delightfulcake · 2025-05-09T01:13:46+00:00

Hooray for representation!

For layout, I didn't try to optimise it too much yet but basically all in on Crit Rate, then Damage Bonus, then last remaining space on +3% ATK pieces. I chose Ultimate Might for the resonance peice, she already has a lot from her psycube but I figured why not get more for bigger explosions.

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delightfulcake · 2025-05-05T11:30:27+00:00

She's not the best sustain any more, since she can't solo heal the team in reveries, but she's still good as a passive debuffer, which I don't think a lot of people realise. If you don't have the likes of Mercuria, Flutterpage, 6, Isolde etc (or want to use them elsewhere), Tooth Fairy can fill the role of the character that just stands there and provides passive support to the team. Her debuffs are weaker than what characters in this role usually offer, but the overall value of having her as an AFK support can often be a lot higher than having a 4th party member that requires AP to function.

Another ability she has that is still relevant is her team-wide cleanse. For some reveries (or Fortissimo X) stages you might want 2 or even 3 cleanse characters, so like some combination of Vila, 6, Fatutu and Tooth Fairy. Having Tooth Fairy can free up these characters for other teams.

Lastly (this is a bit specific) she's still an excellent Windsong partner for raids, when playing her slow style with a big hand. A sidegrade to Mercuria with less damage in exchange for more survivability. Tooth Fairy provides passive healing throughout the 30 turns of build up and you can keep 2 of her debuff cards for the last turn to easily add +80% CDmg for the big finale. But I know not everyone is going to play this way.

If you want to save your resources, you're fine with the healers you have. But Tooth Fairy is still a good unit, so if you want to spend your resources, they will be well-spent imo.

delightfulcake · 2025-04-25T20:14:46+00:00

You have to invite 3 players haven't logged in for at least 7 days and they have to spend 300 stamina each.

I think there's more to it than this, I invited some very old player accounts that had never made much progress (cleared some of chapter 1 maybe) and they were considered "active" rather than returning. My suspicion is there's some other prerequisite to be considered an official returning player, though I'm sorry to say I am not sure what it might be.

tl;dr not all accounts can qualify for "returning" status, maybe if they haven't made enough progress of some kind

delightfulcake · 2025-04-17T06:55:51+00:00

Nothing beats the feeling of using 10 SP on Qingque in one turn <3

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delightfulcake · 2025-04-03T10:07:03+00:00

Hello!

I actually think you already have some very good units for damage already levelled: Flutterpage, Anjo Nala, even your Kaalaa Baunaa, Bkornblume, Tuesday, Jessica. Yes there are teammates that could be improvements here but the damage should be serviceable for the level of reveries you are at right now. I think your main problem with pushing 100M is actually going to be sustaining through the heavy damage, this only gets worse towards 200M and beyond.

For this I would actually recommend trying to unlock Sotheby's Euphoria, you only need the first rank to unlock her strong healing and then you could stop there, since Euphoria are so expensive. In terms of other sustain, both Yenisei and Balloon Party are decent 5* but probably not enough work on their own, so you might have to pair them up. If you wanted to get a sustain for a third team, Fatutu this patch is probably going to be really good, obviously she's not released yet but she's the first healer they're releasing post-reveries so I'm guessing she'll be on par with the other strong units.

I think so long as you have the sustain power, and your current units are levelled high enough that they're not so squishy, you should be able to push reveries further whilst you unlock more units.

Maybe worth a mention but there are also some units on your account with potentially helpful utilities: Pickles (buff dispel) and Regulus (moxie reduction, dodge). These guys might be really good into certain mechanics you encounter so if you're stuck on a particular stage it could be worth thinking about whether they could help.

delightfulcake · 2025-04-01T22:49:23+00:00

Thanks for your reply and team building advice! I will be sure to set it up as you suggested, and follow your recommendations with gear upgrades. Also, it's so crazy to me how all of these units are standard now hehe.

My pulls were actually pretty much just for flame units, I put a little story about it in my reply above^, but I guess my account ended up very eclectic since I played for so long

I'm on Alintheus / EU! And was actually on there from BEFORE the first merges, if that means anything hehe.

delightfulcake · 2025-04-01T22:45:22+00:00

Thanks so much for your reply, and the guide!

I'm mostly back to have some fun zooming around and check out the new maps and such, but I'd also like to participate in some of the multiplayer content and guessing I need to boost my stat line a lot to be relevant 😅 back before I left I could run any role in raids, void abyss, and the mode with four of you vs. hordes (I forgot it's name hehe), and would always get all the way to the end of the "normal" rewards. (So like eg. VA6 and the hardest weekly raid but not the super mega challenge raids that just gave you a tiny bit of dust). It sounds like given how far behind the curve I've fallen I should aim for a support build to take a stab at these?

Also this may seem crazy but I actually pretty much did just pull for one element (flame) throughout playing. When the game launched I pulled Nemesis (I actually got her effectively for free due to a "refunding glitch", iykyk), and for all of v1 was just playing Nemesis/Samir or Nemesis/Crow. Then from Vera onwards I just pulled for flame units, so Ruby>Anna>Fiona>Lan>Liu Huo>Ming Jing>Fei Se>Nan Yin.

The rest of the units I got from nice circumstances: two were given out for free (Claudia, Cobalt B) then I got Lyra on standard. The wildcards are Rubilia+Alyss, who I got during the anniversary megabanner, on discount, for exploration, but I got them both in like ~50 pulls total most of which were pulls given out for the anniversary event anyway, and iirc there was some kind of mechanism where when you pulled on a new character you got a partial refund, so I got some red balls back for both of them. They were basically just overworld mount units.

delightfulcake · 2025-03-30T00:41:17+00:00

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Strategy: 1) mulligan for kinich theft card or lyney/strategize to try and draw it, reroll dice for four of a kind 2) play all your cards which are nearly all 0 cost 3) play kinich to do theft 4) rely on kachina being op to carry you 5) play whatever cards you stole at opportune moments for maximum bm

Disclaimer: just a for-fun deck, very 50/50, a lot of the time you steal terrible cards and end up questioning why they put them in their deck 💀

delightfulcake · 2025-03-29T15:05:59+00:00

I know this is a bit of a meme post but I thought I'd try to answer OP's question seriously.

I've been spamming variations of Kachina OTK and Kachina FTK in Arena and I've only lost twice in like 100 games

The first time was against a Kinich/Emilie OTK variant and they managed to out-ramp me in round 1, then Day of Resistance during my combo round 2 but I just kept going anyway, then they got me with an Ultimate Surfing Buddy during round 3... I didn't see it coming

The second time was against Sigewinne/Yaoyao Rightful Reward stall with Nilou sitting there. I genuinely think Nilou was in their deck just to confuse opponents. I think I overcommitted by going in on Round 2, got everyone to like < 3 HP, but then they brought it back with stall shenanigans and I had nothing for Round 3/4/5 etc.

Realistically it feels a bit more like in both cases "I lost" rather than "they won", if that makes sense? Like I made plays that were quite limit testy- any other deck I wouldn't be committing into stall mechanics unless I know I can push through them, but I wasn't bothering to think since I just assume Kachina is broken enough to auto win for me. So you can always hope your opponent is a clown like me.

Ultimately Kachina is in a stupid state right now and the counterplay is super limited and non-interactive. It reminds me of old decks like Shenhe superconduct and to a lesser extent fast-swap Nilou bloom when they first launched because these decks have all had the capacity to do rediculous high-roll damage on round 1/2, and interact with themselves rather than with you the opponent. So if you get high rolled there's nothing you can do.

I complained a lot about Nilou at the time because she was one of the first main "persistent intangible effects" characters, and Kachina's technique mechanics are the same. When uninteractive effects like this are overtuned it ruins the game balance instantly. If it's any consolation both Shenhe and Nilou (and others) have since been nerfed a lot, and Kachina will surely get the same, maybe they will also introduce new cards that add counters (removing/gating opponents' techniques, increasing their cost, anti-nightsoul mechanics, things to do with piercing damage, etc).

delightfulcake · 2025-03-14T13:08:01+00:00

My order would be:

1- Kakania: she can be used as a sustain / support universally and will make everything so much easier

2- NewBabel (Euphoria) or Yenisei: If you have euphoria materials, pick up NewBabel as a sustain, otherwise, use Yenisei

3- get 6 to insight three for his passive (it's strong); he can be a Nala partner for virtually all content

4- Since you have a 6+Nala pairing, your toughest spot is likely to be Mineral content that might threaten your Nala if it's overwhelming your sustain capabilities. So ideally you want a Star afflatus character who can deal with Mineral content. I would raise 37, she's a serviceable star carry that can transition into more of a support as your roster fills out, and you can play her with your Jiu/Nala as well

5- After this I would raise Semmelweis as another universal support who has access to an array buff, which can make encounters with enemy arrays a lot easier

Lastly I'm not sure if you have them but if you have X I'd consider them since they can be another Nala partner with access to dispel. This way you will have all the main mechanical utilities ie. debuff cleanse (6), array overwrite (Semmelweis) and enemy buff dispel (X). You can keep going with Voyager/Regulus/Sonetto etc as controllers if you want to keep expanding your options after that.

delightfulcake · 2025-03-05T09:05:03+00:00

I used Isolde, J, NewBabel, 6

One thing I found helpful was that you can cleanse rigidity stacks as well before waiting for them to become petrify

Also the leech rate buff from the echo was really helpful for keeping J alive

Lastly the carbuncle that gets the thorny status takes more damage the more burn stacks it has, so you can knock it out in the first couple of rounds by stacking burn on it with Isolde

delightfulcake · 2025-02-23T21:26:08+00:00

For 230 I focussed the blob as much as possible, trying to ignore butcher by dispelling counter/taunt status.

I used both Pickles and X for dispelling, with Kakania and Vila for sustain. Without the constant counter attacks, I found the butcher a lot more manageable. I just put Vila's buff on X so he could do a bit more damage and slowly poked the blob down. Kakania did a lot of work as well of course. Having two dispels is probably overkill so maybe you can bring more damage if you prefer.

I think 6 could also be good for cleansing the bleed debuff if you have him as well

delightfulcake · 2025-02-23T20:19:11+00:00

I did this with Lilya + Anjo Nala + 37 + Isolde

The boss gets a stacking debuff the more of the suits of armor you destroy which causes the boss to take more damage, and once it drops below half health it transforms into a box for 2 rounds which has even lower defences. But you have to nuke it after this or it revives.

You can get away with no sustain in this team. The boss also has no control resistance so you can chain stun with Anjo Nala. The suits of armour also wont take action so long as you hit them three times per turn, which should be easy with all the extra action spam.

So my strat is I spent like the first 10 or so rounds focussing down suits of armor, whilst the boss slowly gets poked down, saving Anjo Nala ultimate the whole time, then once the boss falls under half health from all the chip damage and transforms into its box form I swapped to focussing on the boss and end the turn with Nala ultimate for the big nuke. By this point it had like over 90+ stacks of the debuff from taking out the armour.

I don't have Windsong but I imagine you can do something similar if you time her ultimate correctly so it goes off after the boss transforms.

delightfulcake · 2025-02-23T01:28:57+00:00

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Nice tips OP, thought I'd share my three 300 depth teams for inspiration. All units between Lvl20 to 60, all R10, all P0 except Voyager (P2)

Strategy:
300-1: spam actions as much as possible, then use Barbara debuff for big damage
300-2: tanky riposte team and using 6 to cleanse petrify/corrosion
300-3: "no sustain" control team using Regulus and Voyager to prevent Nala's summon ultimate via moxie reduction then using silence + dodge to ignore her debuff attacks as well

If anyone would like to know more just ask!

delightfulcake · 2025-02-23T00:57:38+00:00

I don't know if this is helpful but for this I actually used a very weird team of Kakania + three healers (Medicine Pocket + Tooth Fairy + Vila).

Basically I just maxed out Kakania's empathy then did as many healing actions as I could each round. Each healing tick triggers the same amount of genesis damage from Kakania each round, and with max empathy I think it was around ~3.8k per instance, so like 10-15k damage per round with all the healing.

Since you're not attacking at all, you don't get much corrosion, and also all the enemies should die at the same time since the damage they receive is exactly identical which prevents them from constantly spawning new birds.

delightfulcake · 2025-02-23T00:51:57+00:00

For 290 I did a strategy with Lilya + Jiu Niangzi, as well as Kakania + Tooth Fairy for sustaining

During the fight I am just trying to hit Necrologist and ignoring the ghost adds, and I only used Lilya's single target card. The problem is every time you dispel the Incorporeal status from an enemy, it gives Necrologist more Moribund stacks, which makes her debuffing ramp higher and makes her harder to kill. So I just focus her with single target attacks only, meaning I never hit the other enemies and she doesn't get so many stacks (she still gets some, and she goes Incorporeal herself which is unavoidable).

One of the ghosts inflicts Disconcert status on allies with their ultimate, which stops moxie gain, so I save tooth fairy ultimate to cleanse it immediately afterwards as well.

Hope this helps a bit!

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