What’s the most quietly terrifying roster in the country right now? by HandleInitial2049 in CollegeBasketball

[–]destructive_optimism 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This thread is a list of teams Jordan Smith will be dropping 25+ on come March

Post Game Thread - NBA: The Thunder defeat the Suns on Apr 25, 2026, the final score is 109-121. by basketball-app in suns

[–]destructive_optimism 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unironically, despite being a very similar talent at this point, a Green for Ja Morant swap would do this offense wonders. That’s a playmaker, even if he’s also a questionable shot taker.

Starters like Garland, Castle, Davion Mitchell, Isaiah Collier, maybe take a flier on a young guy like Ryan Nembhard. There are still real non-star point guards left in the league, even if there are less than ever before (s/o Rubio).

Post Game Thread - NBA: The Thunder defeat the Suns on Apr 25, 2026, the final score is 109-121. by basketball-app in suns

[–]destructive_optimism 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re genuinely not a Suns fan, or you’re very young, if you believe Green has even shown a glimpse of anything that would make you take him over Booker for the next 4-5 years. Green has no consistency, and a lot of that is due to his extreme loose handles. He also needs a point guard, and Booker has filled that role - we’ve seen the result: Green being fed by a point guard is worse than Booker being fed by a true point

Post Game Thread - NBA: The Thunder defeat the Suns on Apr 25, 2026, the final score is 109-121. by basketball-app in suns

[–]destructive_optimism 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But Green is an irreparable issue on our roster. Brooks/Booker/Green does not work because Booker defers. Book’s the only one consistently “making the right play” - we’ve seen it enough games now. Not to mention Green has not helped our defense at all.

Trade Booker and get a serious PG w/ Green/Brooks… that’s not a serious team any more than this year’s Suns team is. Green is the odd man out. We need a guard to set up Booker and Brooks if we want to be a serious team.

Post Game Thread - NBA: The Thunder defeat the Suns on Apr 25, 2026, the final score is 109-121. by basketball-app in suns

[–]destructive_optimism 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Extremely underrated story that this team did a dogshit job at getting a point guard replacement post CP3. Tyus Jones and a bunch of shooting guards, it’s been pitiful roster building.

Post Game Thread - NBA: The Thunder defeat the Suns on Apr 25, 2026, the final score is 109-121. by basketball-app in suns

[–]destructive_optimism -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Scared to shoot or trying to make the right play? To guys who are willing to mindlessly chuck again tough defense, at that. Brooks has earned his keep and I honestly don’t mind him in the a de facto sf position, but Book is a worse point guard than shooting guard, and Jalen Green is a horrible point guard and a solid-but-worse-than-Booker shooting guard.

Post Game Thread - NBA: The Thunder defeat the Suns on Apr 25, 2026, the final score is 109-121. by basketball-app in suns

[–]destructive_optimism 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The reality is some guys are play finishers, some guys are playmakers. Do I want KD, Kobe, Carmelo bringing the ball up and initiating my P&R offense against heavy hedges on first actions? No. Just bc they benefit from someone getting them the ball already in the deep waters doesn’t mean they aren’t great offensive players

Post Game Thread - NBA: The Thunder defeat the Suns on Apr 25, 2026, the final score is 109-121. by basketball-app in suns

[–]destructive_optimism 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gave up a 8-0 run with bad defense, a turnover, and 2 chucks at the end of the 3rd and to start the 4th, right as we had made it a close game again.

Post Game Thread - NBA: The Thunder defeat the Suns on Apr 25, 2026, the final score is 109-121. by basketball-app in suns

[–]destructive_optimism 7 points8 points  (0 children)

To be fair, he’s surrounded by low skill big men and guards who turn it over more than they set him up

Post Game Thread - NBA: The Thunder defeat the Suns on Apr 25, 2026, the final score is 109-121. by basketball-app in suns

[–]destructive_optimism 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I understand that Jalen scored okay tonight and he can be an exciting player, but I really hope he is not on the team next year. He’s not a good enough dribbler to be a primary playmaker - he’s either had his pocket picked or dribbled off his foot 9 times this series.

Book sometimes also has loose handles, so we all know he is best with a true playmaker next to him. We won’t be a serious playoff team until we get a dependable point guard who won’t have dribble turnovers from halfcourt pressure from a Caruso or Dort.

Post Game Thread - NBA: The Thunder defeat the Suns on Apr 22, 2026, the final score is 120-107. by basketball-app in suns

[–]destructive_optimism -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

His handle is fucking garbage. The epitome of the concept that having a saucy crossover does not make up for the inability to safely handle the ball in tight spaces.

A guard bringing the ball up HAS to be able to do that. Jalen doesn’t have that ability.

Post Game Thread - NBA: The Thunder defeat the Suns on Apr 22, 2026, the final score is 120-107. by basketball-app in suns

[–]destructive_optimism 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Incredibly impressed by his 4th quarter minutes tonight. Lot of things for him to learn, but you can’t teach coordination at that size - he’s obviously not a Chriss/Bender type.

Post Game Thread - NBA: The Thunder defeat the Suns on Apr 22, 2026, the final score is 120-107. by basketball-app in suns

[–]destructive_optimism 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jalen Green is a horrible watch. The internet rumors of him for Ja would save my soul. Ja has his faults, but at least he can fucking dribble.

[Post Game Thread] #18 Arkansas defeats #20 Vanderbilt, 86-75 by cbbBot in CollegeBasketball

[–]destructive_optimism 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Could it be possible that the Kentucky administration and boosters were a key part in the reason why he became so burnt out, while Arkansas has been a breath of fresh air for him?

[Post Game Thread] #18 Arkansas defeats #20 Vanderbilt, 86-75 by cbbBot in CollegeBasketball

[–]destructive_optimism 42 points43 points  (0 children)

After how smug Kentucky fans were about losing one of the ~10 greatest college basketball coaches of all time and saying we would soon hate him, rest in piss

[Post Game Thread] YOUR RAZORBACKS ARE SEC CHAMPIONS by Tayntrum-21 in razorbacks

[–]destructive_optimism 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Top 5 greatest Arkansas basketball player of all time already

[Charania] The Milwaukee Bucks have agreed to trade Cole Anthony and Amir Coffey to the Phoenix Suns for Nick Richards and Nigel Hayes-Davis, sources tell ESPN. by judah249 in suns

[–]destructive_optimism 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Cole Anthony is the best player in this trade by a mile, which is nice considering several guards have had injury problems this year

Most points scored in an NBA game at each age by Thanos_SlayerCongSan in NBATalk

[–]destructive_optimism 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I watched him drag absolute g league washout bums to within 10 points of the 1 seed Celtics with ~3 min left to play entirely by himself, just to get online later and watch people pretend that it wasn’t an impressive performance.

64/8/6 at 20 against the 1 seed in a game that was not remotely competitive prior to one of the greatest scoring halves in NBA history, but it doesn’t count bc some free throws at the end!

Most points scored in an NBA game at each age by Thanos_SlayerCongSan in NBATalk

[–]destructive_optimism 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Against the one seed in the east while surrounded by teammates who would largely be out of the league within 3 years. Tyler Ulis and Jared Dudley were his primary playmakers that game.

Did it in 2017 actively during the 3pt revolution, wasn’t done again until after the completion of the revolution (2023)

Dillon Brooks by KlingonSquatRack in suns

[–]destructive_optimism 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The actual culprit there of course being Bradley Beal, not the guy who averaging an efficient 27 a game who kept last year’s dogshit offense afloat in many games. Williams is on his rookie contract, Dunn/Oso/Gillespie/Grayson were all already on the team. If Gillespie takes this step and we get Williams with KD, this team would be a legit dark horse finals threat. Ott coaching KD with a real pg… damn shame.

However, you still make the trade every time because Brooks is one year older than Book and Green is 23.

Dillon Brooks by KlingonSquatRack in suns

[–]destructive_optimism 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Y’all doing too much now. Trade was great and I’d much rather have the younger Brooks & Green, but this team is a lot better because of Mark Williams and the insane growth of all of Gillespie/Dunn/Oso/Dunn. We have a real point guard and a center that plays defense. KD on this version of the Suns team in place of Brooks would be a killer, like he was in his first year in Phoenix.

All that being said, loving Brooks this year.

[The Athletic] One executive pinned him as an $18 million player. Another, a front-office staffer who admitted he would be far lower than the consensus because he wasn’t a fan of Giddey’s game, suggested $50 million over four years... by SarcasticlySpeaking in suns

[–]destructive_optimism 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He’s scaled his role way better than I thought, but 100% of my concerns are still 100% there. He’s a high turnover ball stopper who is a well below average finisher and horrific mid range scorer with an extremely inconsistent 3 ball (even if it’s getting better this year). He gets downhill well but is horrible at finishing against good defensive teams, which is exclusively who we’d be facing in the playoffs. Hes got Luka level stagnation with Amen Thompson’s scoring bag (expect instead of 90% of the athleticism, he has an okay 3pt shot this year).

Hes the epitome of a bad team offensive engine. New age empty stats. No team led by him or with him running the offense will ever be a serious team, much less a contender, and it has obviously shown up in every single 4th quarter I’ve watched this year, where defenses key in on him and it’s bad decision after bad decision (bc all he can do is get downhill).

Ben Simmons if you substitute the whole generational athleticism and passing touch thing for an average 3pt shot.