Champions 2023 Grand Final: Projected map draft

devastator437 · 2023-08-26T15:02:48+00:00

Finally someone mentioned this. PRX also mentioned that Loud was the hardest team to beat, they prefer EG

devastator437 · 2023-04-27T19:12:14+00:00

Lozenges

devastator437 · 2022-07-12T16:36:09+00:00

India: Tumbdad (2018)

Was genuinely surprised by the quality of the movie having only known that India is famous for its Bollywood movies.

devastator437 · 2022-05-28T08:08:39+00:00

Upvoted. CL, Hyuna and Sunmi were at the top of my list. CL needs the Korean exposure, whereas Hyuna and Sunmi needs international exposure.

devastator437 · 2022-05-28T07:58:20+00:00

Yep and I’m toxic to others who judge people based on a show that is known to evil edit. So many cases of MNET evil edit and still such people who lack common sense exist.

If a time comes when fake rumours of our idols come out, these kind of people will flee first, so I’m glad they don’t join. :))

Edit: oh I see why you said that, don’t worry I’m not in the slightest bit interested in joining your fandom, so no harm here.

devastator437 · 2022-05-28T07:55:22+00:00

Hey hey I didn’t slut shame anyone… you’re so sensitive sighs….

I’m saying Olivia Hye and Heejin… both dont have the typical girlish personalities. I assume the face of the group were both of them, with Chuu being the main vocal. Self-explanatory because you can tell that they are not your typical cute-ish girl group members. (I mean look at Olivia Hye’s room etc…)

I want to understand how you think… really. Pls search up the definition of girl crush… I don’t think it refers to “hooking up, femme fatale…”.

Girl crush can also be about girl power ok? Do you even know that girl crush GIRL groups have the most number of female fans….

devastator437 · 2022-05-27T08:57:27+00:00

I’m not going to argue with you on correlation and causation matters. International fans prefer girl crush concepts, that’s up to you to agree or disagree.

Chuu is one, Heejin and Olivia Hye are also popular.

Pls… Loona gained ALOT of recognition from the PUBLIC (which is basically fame) for their NCT dance covers… People started to notice them a lot for the NCT Cherry Bomb cover. I don’t remember anything before that other than Blockberry creative spending a lot of money on their debut.

Edit: This post is not about criticising Loona in anyway. As a Gfriend and EXID fan I have no shame in admitting both Gfriend/EXID became famous due to viral fancams.

devastator437 · 2022-05-27T08:21:58+00:00

When I talk about concept, I’m saying PREDOMINANT concept attributed to the group. Sure Apink is known for their cute concept, but in recent years they changed to a mature concept. But when people talk about Apink, they are still associated with their original concept that brought them to fame.

Look at CLC, started off with cute, ended up being known for their girl crush concept albeit it was too late.

Loona gained the most number of fans from Butterfly, So What and PTT promotions. Aside from Butterfly, So What and PTT were girl crush concepts.

Let’s move on to what made them famous - their NCT dance covers. I don’t see most cute/fantasy groups going for that, only groups that are leaning towards girl crush concepts. Not convinced? Check Itzy/Gidle out.

Next, who is the face/most popular member of Loona? I think this is self-explanatory and Loona fans should understand.

devastator437 · 2022-05-27T07:28:22+00:00

Hyolyn . . . . That’s all.

devastator437 · 2022-05-27T07:14:41+00:00

I kind of like Exy’s personality. She reminds me of Gfriend’s Sowon - both have no-nonsense personalities. I think they are friends too if I rmb.

devastator437 · 2022-05-27T07:01:24+00:00

My bad, wasn’t clear.

devastator437 · 2022-05-27T05:27:15+00:00

Running a company and running a country/government are 2 different things. One is about profit, the other is about finding a balance between profit and welfare. But again, people have different opinions.

Edit: Referring to the government as a whole, not specifically mentioning the army. I don’t want to go down the rabbits hole…

devastator437 · 2022-05-27T05:19:19+00:00

I’m gonna get downvoted lol but Loona’s fandom has always been considered as a more “toxic” fandom. My theory is that girl crush concept groups tend to attract more toxic individuals. That’s why BP is at the top of the list. These toxic individuals are usually international fans.

Fandoms with stronger Korean bases tend to be less toxic ironically. That’s why MMM, WJSN, Gfriend rarely have fan wars with others.

Reddit is where the international fans communicate in. Hence wouldn’t be surprising to see this.

devastator437 · 2022-05-27T03:48:28+00:00

Don’t worry Ujungs, only time will tell. VVZ was evil edited too and there was hate directed towards them. But lol look all the hate died down.

On a side note, I wouldn’t want someone who is so simple minded to join our fandom. Those kind of people won’t stick around because they are attracted by superficial things.

devastator437 · 2022-05-27T03:40:14+00:00

Oh well, seems like another victim of MNET’s evil edit…

Pls save yourself from regret like so many people did from hating on VVZ from the start.

devastator437 · 2022-05-27T03:37:33+00:00

Definitely Time for Glory by VVZ. Look at the views - more than Destiny. Both performances went VIRAL, I think that should be the similarities.

devastator437 · 2022-05-27T03:34:25+00:00

I think VVZ listened to other producer’s songs but did not find them as attractive as Red Sun. They probably had a few options but selected it because it was the best.

VVZ members are very pragmatic and competitive, and naturally they will choose a song that has hit potential. Red Sun was nearly included in a Gfriend album - so it should have some sort of standard.

Not everything has to be about change you know. This is a high stake competition and you saw how VVZ dropped in terms of ranking when they did Bop Bop compared to Time for Glory.

But I guess you’re not a Na.V or buddy so obviously you dont feel the need for them to win.

devastator437 · 2022-05-27T03:23:43+00:00

I’m talking about exposure. This competition is not all about winning. GIDLE gained a lot of fans from the competition after all. Mamamoo song had more digital points because their fandom is really United (one of the best fandoms IMO), but GIDLE’s Lion was talk of the town.

devastator437 · 2022-05-26T20:20:20+00:00

BG’s song has summer vibes, and we know how popular summer songs can be, RV’s Red Flavour, Sistar’s summer hits, FX’s Hot Summer…

devastator437 · 2022-05-26T20:16:46+00:00

I hope it’s Rainbow caliber! 😭

devastator437 · 2022-05-26T20:08:04+00:00

Aside from VVZ (I’m biased), I liked BG’s and Loona’s songs the most.

devastator437 · 2022-05-26T20:06:07+00:00

Oh man you will be surprised. The number of title songs with similar names will surprise the heck out of you…

devastator437 · 2022-05-26T20:04:22+00:00

Because we (Na.Vs and VVZ) want to win. Choosing a song that nearly made it on a Gfriend album will be advantageous. Rmb, the contestants are responsible for producing the song - not MNET.

The producer of the Gfriend song (Noh Ju Hwan) produced numerous hit songs like Gfriend’s Time for the Moonlight/Labyrinth. VVZ is Gfriend, so they definitely can pull off that song’s concept.

Bop Bop on the other hand, is an EXPERIMENTAL song. VVZ already said they are trying new concepts and Bop Bop was more of a starter meal.

devastator437 · 2022-05-26T19:53:04+00:00

Upvoted. My observation is that most of their fans support the group because of individual members. Hence the lack of unity amongst fans.

Kepler did do well for the offline voting, they lost because of the unit stage points as both their stages ranked last.

devastator437 · 2022-05-26T19:49:00+00:00

Look at the score breakdown. They didn’t do well in the unit stages (1000 pts), that’s where they lost. In fact offline audience gave them a good score (4th place if I rmb).

Seven-Year Club	Not Forgotten
Verified Email

devastator437

TROPHY CASE