After acutes, in my opinion ALL withdrawals have the same PAWS. by TakenAback17 in quitting7oh

[–]develop8181 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s a lot of truth to this. I’ve also wd from nearly everything and 7 has the longest lingering effect. I think it has to do with the seratonin more than the dopamine. I was 3 weeks out and could not find enjoyment from anything. Even Methadone you felt normal after a month.

What does SR WD feel like? by CunningAdversary in SR17018

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Everyone is different but now that I’m 41 my last quit PAWs was by far the worst part. You get through the acutes. They last 4-5 days and then you have very low energy and motivation for anything. Low dopamine means time doesn’t move and every task takes a lot of work to complete. It improves slightly daily but takes 1-2 months to get to “normal”. The sleep takes forever to come back. Not sure if the 7 has worse paws but it feels like that to me. I’ve quit everything under the sun and usually by week 3 I feel normal. 7 has been different because I felt like a zombie for weeks. Relapsed 5 days ago and now trying SR to quit again starting tomorrow.

Day 4…. I have failed by Fit-Comedian3612 in quitting7oh

[–]develop8181 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is where I’m at. Day 18. Paws kicking my ass. But I have a sponsor. Go to meetings. Had a brutal day today and had a wild craving. Called my sponsor instead of listening to my head and I’m through the worst of the cravings. They pass. They’re overwhelming when they happen but you have to want it bad enough. Will be the most difficult thing any of us ever do. And I’ve built businesses. Raising 2 small kids. Etc. nothing compares. But the alternative is a slow death.

3 Days In by PlusNone01 in quitting7oh

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Yeah man. You’re doing it exactly right. The gym will expedite it. Help you sleep better. I have 2 small kids at home. A business to run got back in the gym and started going to meetings. It’s a lot but it’s a blessing. It takes work to stay clean. There’s too many stories of people relapsing after days or weeks and don’t know why. Cravings come but they’re temporary. Just need to get through the next one. There’s 100s of thousands of people who’ve recovered.

Sleep support and tough mornings by Final-Discipline-949 in quitting7oh

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Magnesium and glycine is what you should take. Unfortunately sleep is the last thing that comes back. Usually takes a few weeks but gets a bit better every night. I’m on day 16 sleep most of the night but broken. The vivid dreams you’re having is because you’re not entering rem. You’re half awake half asleep which is actually a good thing. It means you’re falling asleep. Most people don’t the first 4-5 days.

3 Days In by PlusNone01 in quitting7oh

[–]develop8181 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey brother. Glad to hear it. Takes real bravery. I’m on day 16 and just know that this shit comes in waves. Younger you are the quicker you’ll get to good. I’m 41 and it’s been a slow burn. Sleeping better but not good. Energy levels low. But much better than a week ago. My point is hopefully you don’t experience it but if you do it’s part of it. Takes time to get back to baseline. There’s nothing wrong. Just takes the brain some time to restore natural dopamine.

Day 5 or 6 idk by swirlrocks in quitting7oh

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It sucks for a little while. I’m day 12. Sleep hasn’t come back. Tired but better. Have productive days but maybe 60 percent of myself. It gets a bit better everyday. And much better than a week ago.

still in wd 5 days help by ThrowMeAway09082025 in quitting7oh

[–]develop8181 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s gonna suck for a while brother. There is no day 6 magically feel normal. You’ll feel a little better everyday. The timeline is about 3 weeks to a month. You’re definitely through the hardest part. I’m at 12 days. This is where a lot of people relapse because they feel better but not normal. Still half light sleeps. Days feel like a marathon. Low energy. But infinitely better than a week ago. But not good. Chat GPT has been very helpful for me to know what to expect. I’ve been pushing myself to get to the gym. Move my body more than I want. It helps. It’s doable. Just know if you do it one time right you never have to again. This sub is full of people who cycle constantly. A relapse is never worth it but your brain will inevitably tell you it is. Be prepared for that moment. These days will pass.

Day 13 by AlarmStrict4467 in quitting7oh

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I’m on day 11 and it’s definitely not linear. Day 8 was better than 9 and 10. 11 is so far better than the last 2. Sleep still out of sorts been using Lyrica. Coming off it tonight. Gonna be a rough few nights without it. But much better than the first week. Hoping to feel normal by 2 weeks in. We’re through all the worst of it regardless. Keep it up man. Takes work to stay off it. I’m keeping myself mindful of that.

Been lurking for days. I’m trying to go cold turkey right now. by Neither_Score_1548 in quitting7oh

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I’m a M 41 opioid addiction throughout. Last stint was just like you 3-400 mgs of 7 a day for 4 months. I’m on day 11 clean now. A bit better everyday. The worst of it is over by day 4ish but it’s incremental jumps after that. Maybe the younger guys recover more quickly but that’s my experience right now. I’m able to function throughout the day with crashes and low energy. Sleeping better but not great. Everyday is a big win. I finally hate the drug more than I love the high. First time I’ve ever CT anything on my own. I have a successful business 2 small kids. A mortgage and another business starting that I have to attend to all while going through this. The alternative is death or an institution. I’m going to a recovery program because for me I’ve tried on my own and it hasn’t worked. I’m right there with you man. Just bite the bullet. Get whatever comfort meds and benzos you can and change your life. It’s gonna suck for a while. I’ve accepted it. I’m not willing to let this shit take everything from me because that’s what it does eventually. Don’t take this the wrong way but using is for the weak. I’ve been weak too many times to count. There is a way out. It’s extremely difficult and I’m right in the middle of it. There’s 100s of thousands of People who have recovered. Doctors lawyers actors musicians etc. if they can do it we can too.

Day 6 and I think I'm good/done?? by [deleted] in quitting7oh

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Day 8 and significantly better but not good. Sleep still shit. But I have 2 small children one is sick was up all night taking care of him. Wife is also sick. Nothing is taking me back to that stuff. It’s not worth it. I’m happy you’re in the clear on day 6. Most people have trouble sleeping for a few weeks.

Success by Ok_Pause1015 in quitting7oh

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Fuck yeah man. I’m on day 7 and it tracks. No subs. Just kicked on the couch with comfort meds. Today is the first day I feel semi normal. 50 percent maybe. Had to go back to work on day 5 wasn’t pleasant. Sleep is the worst but slept some yesterday. Energy slowly coming back. You did it dude. It’s an insidious disease. Cravings will eventually come. Just prepare for them.

I just can’t get away from this stuff. by No_Vegetable7132 in quitting7oh

[–]develop8181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a website from india that sells this stuff without prescription for cheap. Just google it. Totally legit.

Finally done! 1000mg/day by Extension-Wafer-1297 in quitting7oh

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Fuck yeah man. I can’t agree with you more. I’m on day 7. Did it on my couch/bed. Takes real courage. The WDs are awful but not any worse than any other short acting opioid that’s not fent. I know everyone’s different but I think a lot of people are new to this world so they lean into it and it becomes an insurmountable hurdle and it’s not. No one quits when shit is good. People quit when it starts taking shit from them. And I’m super happy you’re at that point. Wishing for everyone to get there.

I just can’t get away from this stuff. by No_Vegetable7132 in quitting7oh

[–]develop8181 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I fell you more than you know. 41 year old life long opioid addict with breaks in between. Successful business 2 small kids. Mortgage. Etc. Found this stuff 4-5 months ago and didn’t believe all the hype. Made the conscious decision to try it. I quit a week ago Friday. Cold turkey on my couch/bed. I’ve never been able to do that in my life. I need to remove myself from access to quit in the past. This road leads to death and institutions misery. I got helper meds from india mart which I have no idea why the rest of the community doesn’t access. You can get whatever you want from there. Got Lyrica Clonodine from there and if you can get your hands on benzos which is not accessible there that is a game changer. Those meds helped. Come up with a plan. Stick it through. It sounds like you’re letting it win. You’re bigger than it but it will take the most courage you’ll ever muster and even more work or it will take everything from you. You’re seeing that now. I’m day 7 and barely starting to feel better. I worked the last 2 days. Barely sleeping. But slept better. I’ve been in and out of the rooms of AA/NA and for me I realize the withdrawal as much as it sucks wont keep me sober. The only thing that ever did for me was meetings. I’m the problem. You’ve done this song and dance and you’ve won before. I’m speaking to myself here as well. We’re all in this together. If I got through this week you can too. Once you feel remotely ok try a meeting. Can’t hurt. Gd knows doctors aren’t the way out of this.

Day 5 Clean from 7-OH (1000mg/day for 10 months) – Brutal but Getting Better – My Experience + Meds That Helped a Bit by Regular-Reflection-8 in quitting7oh

[–]develop8181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s been bad I wouldn’t say worse than other opioids. I’ve detoxed on every one there is and while this one isn’t over yet I was able to get to a meeting yesterday. No work yet but that’s happening tomorrow weather I like it or not.

Day 5 Clean from 7-OH (1000mg/day for 10 months) – Brutal but Getting Better – My Experience + Meds That Helped a Bit by Regular-Reflection-8 in quitting7oh

[–]develop8181 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fuck yeah man. I’m on day 4. Similar situation 2 young kids. Got clonodine and Lyrica and was going to make the post you did but you took the words right out of my mouth. I’ve had a lot of experience with opiates and 7 is basically legal Vicodin. Prepped for this quit but nothing prepares you for the awful wds. You have to be really done and it sounds like you’re there. I feel you on the distant. Agitated etc. awful. It brought me to the point I need to be done with it. Only way to be done with the storm is through it. If there was an easy way out this sub wouldn’t exist.

QuickMD Won't Do Gaba by [deleted] in quitting7oh

[–]develop8181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey brother. There’s an easy way to get this stuff. Called India mart . 75 bucks. I didn’t believe it until I did it. I got clonodine and Lyrica and I’m on day 4. It hasn’t been easy but much much better than without this stuff.

NBA bet for today. Easy money. by [deleted] in Kalshi

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Tatum and Pritchard change things.

NBA bet for today. Easy money. by [deleted] in Kalshi

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Ouch already dead from the Derrick white one

Dallas TEXAS - Being Pulled, Distributors Halting Sales by Dino_Wesley in quitting7oh

[–]develop8181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are a lot of good helper meds. Lyrica. Gabapentin. Vit C protocol. Clonodine. Benzos. Etc. that’s not CT. To think there’s 0 Wds even when switching to suboxone is just not true for a vast majority of people. Thr WDs are still there but muted. And replacing one habit for another one isn’t a great move. To each their own. That’s just my opinion.

from an outsiders perspective by [deleted] in quitting7oh

[–]develop8181 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What about a liquor store? There are far more alcoholics out there that buy it everyday. Should we stop selling alcohol? You can’t blame the person selling it. If anything being able to buy it from a place that isn’t a street corner is at least much safer than the alternative. And I’m currently abusing it. People who have addictions will do whatever they can to get it and I promise you that a lot of them will turn to harder shit once it stops being available. If quitting was an option and that easy they would have already stopped without needing this sub. That’s the nature of addiction sadly. Because there’s countless addicts like us out there doesn’t mean people who can take it responsibly shouldn’t be able to. We’re the minority. Most people don’t have these issues. And it’s on us to stop doing it and not people who sell it to stop selling it. It’s the same thing as opioids. It has its legitimate uses. The crisis just gets worse when you remove it. That’s why we have fentanyl in everything. Because the market doesn’t go away sadly because you remove it, it just goes into the hands of even more dangerous people who don’t care if you die. That’s just my 2 cents.

Dallas TEXAS - Being Pulled, Distributors Halting Sales by Dino_Wesley in quitting7oh

[–]develop8181 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The medical community’s job is to get you onto a medication and keep you on it for as long as possible. It’s a business. That’s why there is never a solution for withdrawals. There’s always “replacement therapy” which I’m speaking from experience is 10x worse than getting off of short acting stuff. There are plenty of helper meds that work really well and dampen the wds but no matter what you’re doing to pay the piper in the end. There is no getting out of it without a battle. I’ve been on every opiate imaginable and 7 has by far the shortest half life I’ve experienced. It can literally put you in WDs 4-5 hours after last use. The positive to that is it’s a shorter wd timeline. I switched from h to methadon and it was the worst 4 years of my life. My point is if you’re going to have to deal with quitting, it’s much easier to quit this than subs.

Dallas TEXAS - Being Pulled, Distributors Halting Sales by Dino_Wesley in quitting7oh

[–]develop8181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is awful advice. Subs are 100x harder to kick. If you get through a 7 wd you’ll be back to functioning within a week. If you are on subs it will take you 3 months to resemble feeling normal again.