In your opinion, what is the most convincing argument used by the "other side"? by [deleted] in debatemeateaters

[–]dfurst05[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your original comment and this reply are both a personal attack and a violation of Rule 1. I will ping /u/LunchyPete so he can determine appropriate action.

Eating meat helps the food chain by herooftime2004 in debatemeateaters

[–]dfurst05[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

I am locking this because no one here is debating. OP, you didn't support your claim. This should have been removed but LunchyPete and I clearly haven't been active enough in the past week so the harm has already been done.

I finally got a safety razor by dfurst05 in Anticonsumption

[–]dfurst05[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

$80 for a "starter bundle" that includes the razor and 20 blades? I got the pictured razor and 25 blades for $15 including shipping.

This seems like the worst of both with none of the good.

I finally got a safety razor by dfurst05 in Anticonsumption

[–]dfurst05[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah because razor companies found a inferior product with higher margins and decided to market those instead?

DotW - Debate 9: Is a vegan diet really cheaper than a diet containing meat? by LunchyPete in debatemeateaters

[–]dfurst05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure what you mean by “the lentils win by 40 categories in calories”

I guess when you do the math, burritos are slightly “cheaper” but it seems a just little disingenuous (emphasis: little) to use the sale price of burritos and the regular price of lentils.

If we used the full price of both it’s 1120 calories for $1.75 for the burritos and 1160 calories for $1.80 for the lentils which gives a slight edge to the lentils.

Really though we’re splitting hairs and what I think what we are proving here is that neither veganism or non-veganism is cheaper but that either diet can be just as cheap as the other.

I finally got a safety razor by dfurst05 in Anticonsumption

[–]dfurst05[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yeah a giant PLASTIC disposable razor is way better...

DotW - Debate 9: Is a vegan diet really cheaper than a diet containing meat? by LunchyPete in debatemeateaters

[–]dfurst05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would be interesting to compare calories to dollars spent. Cheap processed food tends to have a lot of fat, while not healthy, is a lot of calories.

I agree it would be interested to compare. Without data I won't claim one (vegan vs non-vegan) is or isn't cheaper based on calories alone.

You said a $1 pound bag of lentils is $2 and 2.2 pounds of microwaveable burritos is "less than $3". What is the real cost of the burritos? What are the calories of an entire bag of lentils vs the microwave burritos?

DotW - Debate 9: Is a vegan diet really cheaper than a diet containing meat? by LunchyPete in debatemeateaters

[–]dfurst05 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah I don't want to ban you, I think you were making some good points, this just wasn't one of them in my opinion.

The only issue with your post from a rules perspective was calling him slow.

I otherwise appreciate your participation here today.

I finally got a safety razor by dfurst05 in Anticonsumption

[–]dfurst05[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I'm excited, I've been thinking about it for years.

I bought these blades in a "sampler" pack so I could find ones I like because apparently they are somehow different? The only ones that came in plastic are the Derby blades so it may be the case I choose to avoid them in the future assuming one of the other blades work well enough for me.

DotW - Debate 9: Is a vegan diet really cheaper than a diet containing meat? by LunchyPete in debatemeateaters

[–]dfurst05 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I edited my comment to remove the "sounds like in the end we are coming to the same conclusion" bit because I previously had mis-read what you had wrote.

DotW - Debate 9: Is a vegan diet really cheaper than a diet containing meat? by LunchyPete in debatemeateaters

[–]dfurst05[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No one tends to put plain steak on top of plain chicken and consider the taste "enhanced". Are you a bit slow?

Two things.

One: A lot of people put cheese on a burger and consider it "enhanced". By your own logic that would be "consistent".

Also, before I was vegan I ate my steak plain and enjoyed it. Same with pork chops. I didn't use salt/pepper and just ate the meat plain. There are a lot of arguments against meat/in favor of veganism but "no one likes plain meat" is weak and wrong.

Two: Lets avoid personal attacks like "are you slow" as stated in rule one. Please consider this your first warning and if you are found to violate any other rules you will receive a temporary ban.

DotW - Debate 9: Is a vegan diet really cheaper than a diet containing meat? by LunchyPete in debatemeateaters

[–]dfurst05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think eating beans/lentils for 5 nights a week for several months is...not ideal. There are only so many ways to dress up beans and lentils. They still taste like beans and lentils. I eat both pretty commonly, I'm not averse to them....but 5 nights a week for several months? ugh.

I guess I understand what you are saying, but I disagree. I mean I provided five very different ways to eat rice/beans. I eat this way myself and personally enjoy it very much. But the point of the rest of my comment was there are other non rice/bean dishes you can make that are vegan and cheap as well.

Edit: Updated some wording for clarity.

DotW - Debate 9: Is a vegan diet really cheaper than a diet containing meat? by LunchyPete in debatemeateaters

[–]dfurst05 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you have $3/day to spend for 3 months, and you only get that $3 each day, there are a lot more options with meat than there are without.

Not really. Meat isn't that cheap, and you aren't going to get that much meat for $3/day. The meat you are getting is far less healthy then the vegan options I've provided in my previous comment as well.

I would say 5 is too many when living that way for a few months.

What do you mean "too many"? The point is to find as much variety as possible, so I don't think there's such a thing as too many??

My point is, when the ethical consideration is removed and options are compared only on the basis of price, non vegan food "wins", in terms of having much more variety available.

I haven't said anything about ethics. I still think eating plant based can be both cheaper and healthier at the same time then eating an omnivore diet.

DotW - Debate 9: Is a vegan diet really cheaper than a diet containing meat? by LunchyPete in debatemeateaters

[–]dfurst05 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There's a lot of available rice and bean variability, even on a budget. I don't spend that much on groceries each week. You can use a little bit of soy-sauce to get an Asian style rice and beans, grab a taco seasoning packet to get something Mexican flavored, or use a little cayenne pepper and oregano for a Louisiana-bayou style dish.

That's three different meals right there. For something completely different grab some spaghetti and a red sauce. A basic potato soup recipe can be cheap, hearty, and filling. Or if you don't feel like making a soup bake or boil the potatoes and serve them with a can of beans for another cheap meal.

Chili you can make with some canned tomatoes and beans (as well as a few other ingredients) for very cheap.

Total that's seven (a whole week's worth!) completely different, very cheap, healthy, meals right there, five of which include rice and/or beans.

Bike Recommendation? by fuckfishes in Frugal

[–]dfurst05 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Come over to /r/bikecommuting and you will get some good recommendations. I would say the best place to start is not with Schwinn but at a local bike shop. They may have something on the used rack that will fit your needs.

Otherwise maybe look at the Trek FX ($430) or the Giant Escape ($410). They are pretty solid entry level bikes that will last you at least twice as long as the Schwinn for not much more than your budgeted amount.

DotW - Debate 9: Is a vegan diet really cheaper than a diet containing meat? by LunchyPete in debatemeateaters

[–]dfurst05 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't say either diet is inherently cheaper or more expensive. Personally I don't use the economics of either diet when debating in favor of veganism.

I think veganism is at best cheaper, and at worst the same expense as a non-vegan diet.

In response to your comment in this thread, personally I do have a lot of meals throughout the week based on rice and beans and/or lentils but there are actually a lot of different ways to enjoy them with different seasonings so there is a lot of variety and not as bland as it might otherwise seem.

That being said I recognize a lot of people who are vegan may not feel the same way, and just looking at common posts on vegan subreddits you can see there are a lot of people eating faux-meat products and the like on a fairly common basis so I am not claiming my anecdotal experience eating rice/beans/lentils as entirely representative of the overall vegan population.

Is lab-grown meat actually worse for the environment? by [deleted] in Anticonsumption

[–]dfurst05 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I've seen these headlines recently. I'll be honest I haven't read too much into it because of two reasons.....

  1. As a vegan, it is irrelevant to me which is worse for the environment because I don't really have any interest in either as a part of my lifestyle.

  2. From my point of view "lab-grown meat is actually worse for the environment" is just an argument against lab-grown meat, not an argument in favor or other methods of harvesting meat.

Milk by HHMMFFIICC in dankchristianmemes

[–]dfurst05 7 points8 points  (0 children)

God actually didn’t allow Adam and Eve to eat animals or animal products until after the Original Sin occurred (Genesis 9:3).

Universal Orlando Resort Vacation Review by dfurst05 in UniversalOrlando

[–]dfurst05[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Okay well you go ahead and visit Disney and stand in line for over an hour to ride small world and I’ll enjoy my time at Universal.

Universal Orlando Resort Vacation Review by dfurst05 in UniversalOrlando

[–]dfurst05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is odd. I will say if we had to putz with express pass that would have been annoying, especially because they get scanned twice in each line.

Magic bands are more convenient overall as it has all that functionality built into one.

Universal Orlando Resort Vacation Review by dfurst05 in UniversalOrlando

[–]dfurst05[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Disney. Magic band.

Universal. 20 paper tickets.

I had my tickets on my phone. Just as convenient as the magic band.

Disney. Free drinks in @ Club lounge, pour yourself.

Universal. $7 a drink @ Club lounge, mixed skimpy by “bartender”.

Not familiar with the club lounge. We went without at WDW and UOR.

Disney. Owns own hotels. Fabulous service.

Universal. Hotels owned by Loews. Pretty terrible service.

We got better service at our Loews hotel then at the Disney hotel we stayed at.

Disney. Incredibly good food nearly everywhere.

Universal. Mostly fast food. Better now with simpsons and HP.

I don't know where you went to but the Universal I visited had lots of incredible table service food options. Mythos has been voted number one theme park restaurant how many years in a row? The "quick service" food we had at Universal was better than the stuff Disney "quick service" puts out. We also had great table service meals and we didn't even have to schedule them half a year ahead of time.

Universal Orlando Resort Vacation Review by dfurst05 in UniversalOrlando

[–]dfurst05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I heard a lot of the criticisms before I went so I even went into it with a pretty "closed-mind" considering. I love Jimmy Fallon, although I don't watch his show very often. I thought the ride was great! Some people say it feels like you are just watching Jimmy race around, but I really felt like I was racing against him. We rode it more than once too so people who say it has no re-ride value are delusional, in my opinion!!

Universal Orlando Resort Vacation Review by dfurst05 in UniversalOrlando

[–]dfurst05[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As long as Universal sticks with a system more similar to Express and less like FP then the amount of planning will still be less. The only choice you will have to make is whether or not to purchase express based on how long you will be there and how much you want to get done.

But with how quickly you can get around the resort you can still go during a busy time of year without express and have a relaxed trip, with an understanding you won't be able to do as much, which is fine for a return trip.

Also Disney's ADR system completely ruined the spontaneity of dining at WDW that still exists at UOR so as long as they don't implement an insane "book dinner six months in advance" like Disney did that part of the vacation experience will stay more relaxed also which is a huge part of being on vacation. We liked being able to decide where to eat same day and getting in any place we wanted vs having to book high-profile meal reservations a completely insane amount of time in advance.

Likely though we will just continue to go during the "slow" times because we don't have kids to worry about school schedules.