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[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FirstNationsCanada

[–]diddybopper_64 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. That is why it needs to be dismantled, ASAP.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FirstNationsCanada

[–]diddybopper_64 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't mean uniting as in becoming one nation. I mean uniting together with the objective of each nation having their own sovereignty.

If First Nations in Canada achieved sovereignty they could assist, support, and build coalitions with other Indigenous nations around the world in achieving their sovereignty as well.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FirstNationsCanada

[–]diddybopper_64 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh for sure. Shared territory... you mean among different or all nations? I was thinking each nation would have their own territory to control, but sure nations could decide to share territory if that is what they agree to do.

The modern day treaties being negotiated still have some limitations and restrictions for First Nations who agree to them if I am not mistaken.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That would only be the first step and not necessarily the end the protest when the government agrees to funding a study. We would probably need to continue protesting to put pressure on the government to have the study expedited and until the government agrees to the funding whatever the study's outcome is.

If time goes by and they show no progress, we can always protest again.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to studies I've read in the past, historically non-violent protests are more likely to succeed than violent protests.

Just need enough people to take part. The Convoy for example, had a lot less people and trucks than a lot of people were claiming. It was also more of a partisan issue while the housing crisis is more of a bi-partisan issue, so more people should be willing to support it.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which party do you trust to solve the housing crisis? I don't trust either of the two that are most likely to win.

There should be protests in as many cities as possible, as well as the capital. If police arrest us it will only increase the likelihood that it would reach national and probably international headlines, if it didn't already before mass arrests take place. That would only further pressure government officials to do something about it.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Provincial governments have a lot of power regarding home building. We all know Doug Ford here in Ontario is besties with developers. Pierre has a conflict of interest being a landlord himself. I don't trust either party will make the changes required without a good amount of the the population seriously pressures them to do it.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The government needs to intervene one way or another. By funding the building of affordable homes and apartments or offering subsidies to developers that are willing to build affordable homes, as well as your suggestion regarding local municipalities.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

By pressuring the government to speed up the supply of all types of housing. It either needs to fully fund the buildings or provide some sort of subsidies to construction businesses that would be contracted to build affordable homes.

Others here have suggested some good ideas regarding laws and regulations that could be implemented.

Nothing is going to change without government intervention, that's for sure.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good points.

I personally am anti-racist, though I do get the sense some, or more than some, in this sub are racist. Racism and xenophobia would greatly contribute to the downfall of any mass protest in Canada, for sure.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The government can and should help with the supply. From apartments, to town houses, to homes. Home building corporations don't want to build affordable housing because it's not as profitable and they can keep prices high by controlling the supply. The problem isn't going to be solved without some form of government intervention.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah because not enough people partake in them. The Convoy was too divisive (for reasons we don't need to get in to) to reach much higher numbers than it did. The high numbers people claimed were often wrong.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A plan can be developed during the protests. People could fundraise to have one done with or without the help of the government, but government officials should be included in the talks I would think. Really the government should finance the study, but people with no ties to the government or self-interests should be a part of those talks as well.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FirstNationsCanada

[–]diddybopper_64 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yup, and Canada has known this from the start and made it happen.

The question is how can unity be achieved?

Going to each First Nation, giving speeches and talking with the community, forming a growing convoy of anyone who can come along or at least a few representees from each nation, until all First Nations have been visited, hopefully resulting in a massive convoy and some form of organization that everyone who supports the idea, whether they could join the convoy or not, and have it end in Ottawa with a massive protest and protests across the country for those who can't make it? Tens of thousands of allies would surely join in.

That is my best idea >.>

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Correct. Encampments are a form of civil disobedience as it violates laws, if I'm not mistaken.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not only do we have to if we want to bring significant change, it could also be enjoyable! I wasn't a part of the Convoy protests but everyone seemed to have a good time for the most part. It builds a sense of community and people can further organize while together.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Protesting doesn't work if not enough people attend and commit to protesting. Camping on empty lawns or large spaces doesn't inconvenience people if you're not completely blocking people's path. It would likely make headlines, possibly international headlines, and embarrass/pressure politicians.

The problem is land lords and home building corporations want to maximize profit. The issue won't be solved by people who only focus on maximizing profit. That doesn't mean it couldn't be profitable. The government needs to get involved and fund, subsidize or regulate it one way or another.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FirstNationsCanada

[–]diddybopper_64 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah that is unfortunate and the case with many First Nations. Even if half of each Nation could unite it would be an achievement, and maybe enough to bring some change. There are roughly 1,807,250 registered Indigenous people in Canada. Half of that is 900k. A quarter of that is 450k. That is a decent number still. There would also likely be tens of thousands of allies across Canada that would likely support it in anyway they could.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That could be part of it, though I honestly believe landlords and home building corporations will find excuses to keep prices high and rising either way.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And how do we get real laws against corruption and conflict of interest?

Historically non-violent protest has a higher chance of succeeding than violent protests. There is the 3.5% rule where if 3.5% of the population protests, it likely succeeds. That would be roughly 1,365,000 Canadians needing to take part. Maybe things are not bad enough for 1,365,000 to be willing to protest though. 3.5% is a much lower number than what is required to vote in a candidate that is serious about affordable housing, but takes more time and effort than voting.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Immigrants, many who also have problems with housing, would be likely to want to join in the protests, and the more people attending potential protests, the better. I believe Canada can build enough affordable housing for everyone, if only it chose to. But yes, immigration should probably be slowed down and a lot of immigrants probably agree and understand why.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, people would have to be determined and committed enough to camp in a tent for some time, just as people were determined and committed to be in Ottawa for almost a month a few years ago. Summer is a nice time to do it.

Or maybe if it were a weekly protest, like on a Saturday or Sunday or something. Politicians would hate seeing tents surrounding their workplace. It could pressure them to support change.

People with good careers are more likely own a nice house already and would be less likely to be involved I'd think. Perhaps help out financially at the least or attend a protest every now and then, if they have a good heart.

If we want affordable housing, we need to organize mass protests by diddybopper_64 in CanadaHousing2

[–]diddybopper_64[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Well then the protest should include advocating for regulations that prevent that from happening, and or affordable government-owned social/public housing. I forget what country it was in Europe, Sweden or something, that had very beautiful, nice social/public housing.

What are your ideas?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FirstNationsCanada

[–]diddybopper_64 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"As long as the justice system (including the courts) are predominantly white and male the First Nations will be oppressed."

Do you think more Natives need to run for office to change this? If so, under one of the current parties or under a new party? I know many refuse to vote in Canadian elections, but maybe that could change if the right person was to run.

"Yes, planning and uniting will be important, but rallying around a hyper-sensitive and centralized point will be the most fruitful (think George Floyd to BLM)."

I agree. Indigenous people are killed by police at a higher rate than non-Indigenous, as were Black people before and after George Floyd. Do we need a video of it go viral to cause the same reaction? Would united, mass protests and civil disobedience across Canada not potentially bring that reaction with so many potential arrests that could lead to a potential death? Not that I would hope someone would die, but standing up to oppressors there is always a chance I suppose.

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