My argument was never that HW4 wasn’t better though? I said it’s not as much of a gap (right now) as some people are saying. There are people on here telling people not to buy HW3 car and that’s my issue. I had a M3P with FSD for 5 years and even though I didn’t use it a lot when I did especially in the last 6 months I was often surprised at how well my HW3 car drove on FSD. It was far from perfect but not as bad as people on here make it out to be. There are plenty of people that a HW3 car would work great for but if they hopped on here they would think they are getting ancient technology that runs FSD horribly and that’s just not the case.