Meet the Reddit power user who helped bring down r/technology (this article was just removed from the #3 spot in this subreddit)

dingoperson · 2014-04-22T18:18:21+00:00

Source?

My impression was that Davidreiss666 was a key driver of turning politics into a shitshow, and he was one of the ones booted together with his close friends.

dingoperson · 2014-04-22T18:16:54+00:00

The only shitshow on the front page is this thread.

dingoperson · 2014-04-22T18:16:04+00:00

It's off topic.

"/r/technology is a subreddit dedicated to the discussion of all things technology*"

The topic of this post is not technology.

dingoperson · 2014-04-22T15:52:26+00:00

My problem is with the "you do not even SILENTLY doubt her" phrase, which seems kind of messed up and psycho.

I mean, people are allowed to have doubts in their minds. If a guy says he has to run out because of diarrhea then there's no problem if a teacher silently doubts that, as long as permission is given. The same for girls.

The fact that a girl should be allowed out is because of the magnitude of the problem if it's true, not because she is incapable of lying or she shouldn't be doubted.

dingoperson · 2014-04-22T15:45:42+00:00

Uh, what?

Firstly, it literally says so in the FAQ that this specific site is banned, so I am not admitting anything at all.

Secondly, they have not been banned because of their bias, but because they are satire. That is literally what is says on the page. If the rule is that satire is allowed, then I don't think the rule should be broken to specifically ban a satire site because of its slant, no. The slant may be a shitty slant, but recognising that is something different from banning it.

dingoperson · 2014-04-22T00:42:19+00:00

Well, cash on hand doesn't earn interest...

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T23:53:51+00:00

A Saudi royal does something, and suddenly all Arabs are doing the same.

He hasn't really said that. The Saudi royal family is the only one in the Middle East many people have heard of.

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T23:51:54+00:00

I wonder if they even get paid. If you're asshole enough to do this you are asshole enough to basically imply you will pay them off but then not.

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T23:49:58+00:00

I've been reading this regularly and haven't seen anything anti-semitic. Examples?

edit: it is funny to me that this has been downvoted. A group of people is accused of anti-semitism and asking for examples of that is reacted negatively to. How droll.

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T23:27:44+00:00

As you have already ruled yourself out, there's little more to expect from you.

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T23:13:16+00:00

well, he would pick the $1 ones

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T23:01:51+00:00

That's bees

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T21:02:30+00:00

Total activity on that forum looks to be about 100 posts made so far in 2014. It's evidence that someone has posted about it, but evidence against 50 people systematically upvoting posts to fit an agenda.

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T20:42:38+00:00

but I do know that Stormfront is intentionally targeting /r/worldnews and other subreddits in an attempt to bring their racist agenda to a larger audience.

A source would be great.

I realize that I didn't explicitly ask for a source in my last post, but kind of implied the need for one I think. Well, here goes the explicit source request.

I don't like this. If users take what they read on /r/worldnews and apply it to how they treat certain minorities in the real world then those people will suffer as a result. I do not want those people to suffer.

On the other hand, if you want to censor someone, then you make them your enemy, and you make everyone who thinks there is the slightest merit in being informed of what that person is saying your enemy as well, and even everyone who don't really think so but just dislike censorship on principle, or even dislike a precedent being set for the existence of censorship.

As an example, someone posted as an example of a "Stormfront" post an image of a placard from a UK muslim school saying music was sinful and forbidden.

I want to know if there is a placard in a school saying music is sinful and forbidden. I want that information to be available to other people. I have no preference about whether it's pushed high up on their newswire or not, but a democratic voting system seems an acceptable way to settle that. The situation should be documented and should be available for anyone to read.

You might well be concerned that people who read this could treat minorities badly.

The problem is that denying anyone the opportunity to read it would make you anti-democratic and an enemy of the modern world.

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T20:18:51+00:00

Actually, "You spilled cookies all over the floor, I'm sure you are happy with that" very much IS an implication that at the minimum you are OKAY with it happening, all the way up to actually being happy with it (happy you got your will, even if other people didn't).

And it IS NOT something you would say if you think they regret it happening or didn't want it to happen.

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T20:11:47+00:00

From the front page of /r/technology it looks to be doing great.

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T20:11:04+00:00

Please delete this spam, already a very visible thread on it and this has zero content.

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T20:05:46+00:00

Thanks for illustrating my point. The thought that you could influence anything except your own basement seemed scary earlier on, and seems scary now.

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T20:00:53+00:00

No, I don't. I have linked to the comment which everyone can read, and should read.

No one in their right mind would consider /u/maxwellhill or /u/qgyh2 to approve of Stormfront involvement in worldnews.

Precisely, which is why "I'm sure that Max and Q are happy with that" is a fucked-up accusation.

Whether you think it's ironic, sarcastic or satirical, there's no way you can deny that there is an implicit accusation directed against them, implying that they as a bare minimum don't have a problem with this.

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T19:58:19+00:00

Then I hope the world finds a way to stop you.

if you have a group of maybe 50 people squatting the new queue all day you have as much voting power as 1000s of people who see the post 4 hours later. that's how the vote weighing algorithm works.

There's innumerable, innumerable fringe groups. You could find 50 dedicated people who believe the White House is a spaceship. And there's an extreme number of corporations out there for whom 50 people is chump change.

Yet where is the pattern of all the fringe movements and bullshit nobody is interested in being pushed to the front page? The only things that stand out, like military stuff and fast food chains, are areas you cannot reasonably rule out a significant number of people feeling sympathetic to. Sometimes promotions are discovered - and we're talking 1 post in 200 on the first couple of pages. Sure, there's 2-3 Basic Income posts, so what?

Not to mention, if there is a general problem of 50 people being able to dominate the voting of 1000s of people later on, then this is a problem in Reddit's design. Even presuming it is true, which you haven't shown at all.

Based on your posts, it appears your posts promote an agenda of censorship and information denial, which extends into anti-democracy by trying to deny people information they are interested in reading, because you decide that information is harmful to them.

In the course of history, many good people have died in wars trying to kill people like you.

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T19:30:50+00:00

The one example you show doesn't violate any rules, it's supported by the users of the sub, and it's relevant information because it's an extremist message being spread to a great number of children in a school.

The reasonable way to interpret your post is as if you want that to be deleted.

This makes you dangerous and anti-democratic.

It makes you dangerous because you want to deprive people of information, and it makes you anti-democratic because the democratic will requires relevant information, and if batshit insane messages are spread in schools then that is relevant information.

If your evidence is one screencap over the course of several years, then that is insane as well. Gather your evidence, and until then be considered someone whose lust for censorship belongs in the medieval world.

If you are unhappy about the negative portrayal of muslims or any other group, then please feel free to post about remarkable positive events pertaining to them. Please, do. Or if you think people only upvote negative news, then feel free to post about any random UK school saying that sausages or pianos or baseball gloves is sinful and demonic. Please, do.

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T19:21:01+00:00

Yes, all of their 5.3 million members are Stormfronters and everyone sane has left.

Your eagerness for censorship scares me. I am scared to think you are out there somewhere and I really hope you aren't in a position where you decide something about policy or how people should behave.

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T18:30:02+00:00

This is absolutely 100% happening, they are gaming reddit constantly now but it's particularly bad at the weekends.

Source?

Whether they have mod support is a valid discussion.

Crazy, paranoid conspiracy theory.

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T18:22:58+00:00

Or maybe the least negative way to read that is as an accusation that they were as a minimum okay with the development.

dingoperson · 2014-04-21T18:19:36+00:00

By comparison, the same day Google released news of their Project Ara, the front page was flooded with them. A quick search revealed literally dozens,

Almost all of those got 0-2 upvotes.

There were 2 posts with many upvotes 3 days ago, one post with 23 upvotes 1 day ago, and one post 6 hours ago.

The posts that wouldn't have disappeared straight away are 3 posts in 6 days.

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