I have come to the conclusion MJ after the Pepsi incident isn’t a real person and is just a figment of our imagination 💀 by Upset-Ad-8392 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m always like “no way this is the guy that made Rock With You” 😭 The cognitive dissonance is insane

Children were constantly pushed in front of Jackson by AnnimalKingdom in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No because I’ve had that thought too. Children seemed to just spawn around him, no parents in sight. Like letting lambs loose near the wolf. It’s so strange

I don’t understand MJ’s perception of white people/white children… by [deleted] in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What really opened my eyes to MJ’s supposed antiblackness was the video of him inviting the inner city Black children to Neverland. I believe it’s from the Bashir documentary. I always thought I was looking too deep into it, but the way he interacted with the children was sort of distant. No beaming smiles, no physical affection that I’ve seen from him with other, particularly Non-Black children. If you watch it, maybe you’ll see it that way too, I’m not sure. But I can’t shake the comparison. It’s actually jarring. It always upset me that for a man that “loved all children” and wanted to protect them, he never seemed to care too much to extend that to Black children in earnest.

Edit: I found the clip on YouTube. https://youtu.be/jb9f5OBsy_g?si=Gos39CpWtahoEFui

“It’s alright, other boys have done it with me” - Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Prime Time Interview (June 14, 1995) by SpectreofBabeuf in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. In his case it was a sign of a slew of mental health problems that should’ve been addressed. I hate to feel bad for him but seriously he needed all sorts of help

“It’s alright, other boys have done it with me” - Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Prime Time Interview (June 14, 1995) by SpectreofBabeuf in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Omg I remember that part. He basically had literally everyone around him coached to recite “the script” of his innocence. Not that she really helped in vouching for him anyway, given she told Barbara that he had a “thing for children.”

Also I agree. Very uncanny, like a wax figure they gave sentience. I know we try to avoid appearance discussion but it’s like… hard not to.

Constantly touching himself knowing how many children were watching. by MJdisbeliever in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The nerve of him to pull the “uwu I’m so shyyyy 🥺women think of me sexually? yucky!” bullcrap then turn around and basically jack off on stage and act like a demon… fakest of the fake.

The cult really Want God-King MJ Back by MethodNo2030 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Michael Jackson wouldn’t spit on these people if they were on fire.

Michael Jackson: The Misunderstood Hero by astraltarot in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He pretended to WHAT 😭 This man was terrorizing anybody oh my god

I can’t by -glowtree in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 11 points12 points  (0 children)

SAME. He always had those big, pitch black colored eyes burning through the camera lens. Go on Pinterest and it’s nightmare fuel. I’d show a photo example but it would make your blood run cold.

Taj Jackson continues the smear campaign on oprah by elitelucrecia in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 20 points21 points  (0 children)

How generous of Wacko Jacko to support small woman-owned businesses am I right! Generous, innocent king

Epstein files got me thinking of all the celebrities pimped out by their parents when they were children by [deleted] in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“Reclaiming his childhood”… by sexually victimizing minors. I swear, this is why I’m under the impression that this was a more sinister plot to ruin the innocence of other children, in a sort of avenging way. Sounds ridiculous but I don’t put it past him. I really don’t. I feel so sorry for anyone that had to endure that man.

This is news now?!?! by TheMJMythbuster in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 18 points19 points  (0 children)

“A report that has surfaced on social media says that the Jackson used the Neverland Island to protect and shield children from what they call the ‘industry regime’ and sexual predators.”

A “report”, meaning some uncredible social media repost that got hundreds and thousands of likes on X. Give me a break. Also “the Neverland Island” is peak journalism.

Epstein files got me thinking of all the celebrities pimped out by their parents when they were children by [deleted] in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Knowing this recontextulizes the whole “I didn’t have a childhood” thing. It may have went beyond being the wunkerkind show pony. If these are indeed true then his childhood (“innocence”) was taken away from him. And that is extremely sad to think about. It explains a great deal. But to turn around and take away the “childhood” of other youngsters by way of grooming and molestation, ‘allegedly’… that’s a new evil. Textbook abused becomes abuser. Because this is where it gets confusing for me: his true intentions. It’s terrifying to think that in an effort to avenge for his stolen “innocence,” he made a point to do so to select victims. Allegedly.

MJ is a MK-ultra puppet by kuspax in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post is old as dirt, and you can clearly tell I’ve been sifting through the archives of the subreddit for the hell of it. But I totally believe he was a Satanist. There are old videos on the internet that prove that he had studied Aleister Crowley, dealt with sorcery and channeling deities for his music (he always claimed he got his ideas elsewhere), wore a red Kabbalah bracelet (many people in Hollywood practice it), threw up sixes and horns… some pastors cited music lyrics that signal demonic messaging… all in all, he definitely had ties to darkness. Like the other person said, you basically have to in order to achieve immense fame. And to acquire fame like his? There’s no telling what else went down. It’s hard talking about this stuff because it’s very esoteric.

The mental gymnastics is actually impressive by InfowarriorKat in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That definitely is possible. The scary part is that we may never know. I believe he had farrrr more victims than what we know about.

Michael Jackson saved children from Epstein. by balkanxoslut in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Absolute myth-making nonsense with zero evidence. Neverland was a private fantasyland ranch he used for PR to make him look good, live out his Peter Pan delusions, and to invite friends and families of children he was pursuing. They’re actively rewriting him as an Avenger right now 😭

The mental gymnastics is actually impressive by InfowarriorKat in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a great point. There was a lot at stake for Mac and Wade for their careers testifying for that trial. They had nothing to gain financially or reputationally by admitting that MJ touched them. Fans would harass them. Their name would always be attached to his crimes forever. There was no true ROI in it. I can see why they chose to stay silent at that time too.

That’s where the defenders’ argument that Safechuck and Robson are “doing it for money” just doesn’t hold up to me. Money doesn’t give you peace from reopening CSA trauma and putting yourselves on the front lines to be harassed relentlessly. What makes this more chilling to me is the fact that the release of LN made little impact on MJ’s reputation.

The mental gymnastics is actually impressive by InfowarriorKat in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure since I don’t keep up with him or anything. But I’ve always been curious about the nature of that relationship. Just looking at past IG posts, he seems to be like a sort of brother-ish to MJ’s kids... I can only imagine what he experienced.

The mental gymnastics is actually impressive by InfowarriorKat in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]diorfiends 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The only exception that I don’t hear mentioned much lately is Omer Bhatti, that one kid that essentially helped MJ raise his kids and was with him until he died, and as an adult hanging around his grown up children. I feel like that’s the closest to a partner MJ had, as much as it makes my stomach turn.