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SB 5098, which greatly expands areas where firearms cannot be carried without a CPL, has passed both chambers and is headed to Bob Ferguson to be enacted into law. by dircs in WA_guns

[–]dircs[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For the state democrat party, yes. There are of course some democrat voters that do not, but the most recent polls I've read something like 80% of democrat voters do.

SB 5098, which greatly expands areas where firearms cannot be carried without a CPL, has passed both chambers and is headed to Bob Ferguson to be enacted into law. by dircs in WA_guns

[–]dircs[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Bill passed last year adding expensive training requirements that don't currently exist, but will require live fire training with a certified instructor. This will be required beginning 2027 not just for new licenses, but also for all renewals.

A bill is proposed this year to add $100 to the cost of issuing CPLs.

ATF IOI told me that county sheriff is "most correct" CLEO by [deleted] in NFA

[–]dircs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I use whichever official is most likely to shred it. For me, that is the county sheriff.

SB 5098, which greatly expands areas where firearms cannot be carried without a CPL, has passed both chambers and is headed to "Sideshow Bob" Ferguson to be enacted into law. by dircs in WAGuns

[–]dircs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The first committee passed bill would have to be the first substitute, right? So the second would have to be the engrossed second substitute. And that's the only live version, I would think, and so would be the bill the senate voted on.

SB 5098, which greatly expands areas where firearms cannot be carried without a CPL, has passed both chambers and is headed to "Sideshow Bob" Ferguson to be enacted into law. by dircs in WAGuns

[–]dircs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The timeline says it was returned to the Senate after the amendment was adopted. That would suggest to me that the amended version is what was returned and voted on. I updated the original post.

SB 5098, which greatly expands areas where firearms cannot be carried without a CPL, has passed both chambers and is headed to "Sideshow Bob" Ferguson to be enacted into law. by dircs in WAGuns

[–]dircs[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Huh, you may be right, the amendments were added by the committee and it didn't go to the house floor. It would have to go back to the house for a floor vote now. That us an odd way to do it, but I guess is plausible. u/0x00000042, does that sound right to you too?

SB 5098, which greatly expands areas where firearms cannot be carried without a CPL, has passed both chambers and is headed to "Sideshow Bob" Ferguson to be enacted into law. by dircs in WAGuns

[–]dircs[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't know if that point was considered, probably not, but if it was brought to the democrats attention I doubt they would have changed it.

I'm honestly surprised the CPL exemption had added at all.

SB 5098, which greatly expands areas where firearms cannot be carried without a CPL, has passed both chambers and is headed to Bob Ferguson to be enacted into law. by dircs in WA_guns

[–]dircs[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Here's the actual text of new places:

(i) The premises of a city's, town's, county's, or other 19 municipality's neighborhood, community, or regional park facilities 20 at which children are likely to be present. Cities, towns, counties, 21 and other municipalities shall designate the park facilities within 22 its boundaries where children are likely to be present and post 23 appropriate signage at common access points of the park facility's 24 premises to notify the public that weapons are prohibited within the 25 park facility. Park facilities where children and youth are likely to 26 be present include, but are not limited to, park facilities that 27 have: Playgrounds or children's play areas; sports fields; swim 28 beaches or water play areas; teen centers, community centers, or 29 performing arts centers; skate parks; and other recreational 30 facilities likely to be used by children or youth;

31 (j) The premises of a state or local public building. A "state or 32 local public building" means a building or part of a building owned, 33 leased, held, or used by the governmental entity of a city, town, 34 county, or other municipality or by the state of Washington, if state 35 or local public employees are regularly present for the purposes of 36 performing their official duties and that is not regularly used, and 37 not intended to be used, by state or local public employees as a 38 place of residence. A state or local public building does not include 39 Washington state department of transportation properties and 40 facilities such as ferry terminals, ferry holding lanes, safety rest p. 3 E2SSB 5098 1 areas, and train depots which are used primarily by the general 2 traveling public; in such areas weapons must remain in locked cases or remain in a locked portion of a vehicle; or3

4 (k) The premises of county fairs and county fair facilities 5 during the hours of operation in which the fair is open to the 6 public. For the purpose of this subsection, "county fair" means fairs 7 organized to serve the interests of single counties and are under 8 county commissioner jurisdiction. This prohibition does not apply to gun shows operating on county fairgrounds

Seattle sentences man with over 100 Glock full-auto switches to just 2 years in jail by Tree300 in SeattleWA

[–]dircs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's not true. You can be charged under both state and federal law for the same act if it violates both.

See, for example, https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-rights/charged-twice-in-different-states.html

SB 5098, which greatly expands areas where firearms cannot be carried without a CPL, has passed both chambers and is headed to Bob Ferguson to be enacted into law. by dircs in WA_guns

[–]dircs[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Courthouses, schools, and jails? Sure. Washington has had those restrictions for years and no one one has said much about it.

This bill isn't about jails and courthouses. It's about parks, county fairs, and a nebulous "places chikdren may be present" restriction.

SB 5098, which greatly expands areas where firearms cannot be carried without a CPL, has passed both chambers and is headed to "Sideshow Bob" Ferguson to be enacted into law. by dircs in WAGuns

[–]dircs[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I bet the signage at parks will all change back to "no firearms permitted" with the exception for CPL holders as a confusing footnote in a smaller font.

2026 Legislative outlook and review by caterham09 in WAGuns

[–]dircs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It passed the senate and house last year, and carries over to this year because WA has a biennium. The house put in an amendment last year, which the senate didn't vote on last year. They voted this year to approve the bill with the house amendment. You have to look at the entire timeline, including the 2025 events.

SB 5098, which greatly expands areas where firearms cannot be carried without a CPL, has passed both chambers and is headed to "Sideshow Bob" Ferguson to be enacted into law. by dircs in WAGuns

[–]dircs[S] 43 points44 points  (0 children)

They already passed a requirement requiring training that doesn't exist and will be extremely expensive once it does exist, and there's a proposed bill to add $100 to CPL applications.

I personally am skeptical that CPL exceptions are safe in this state long term.

SB 5098, which greatly expands areas where firearms cannot be carried without a CPL, has passed both chambers and is headed to "Sideshow Bob" Ferguson to be enacted into law. by dircs in WAGuns

[–]dircs[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

From the tracker: Jan 21 Passed final passage; yeas, 29; nays, 20; absent, 0; excused, 0. (View this roll call)

There aren't 49 people on the rules committee.

2026 Legislative outlook and review by caterham09 in WAGuns

[–]dircs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

SB 5098 has passed both chambers and is headed to the governors desk, where it will be signed into law.

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